Ephesians 4:29-32 No rotten word must proceed from your mouth, but only something good for the building up of the need, in order that it may give grace to those who hear, and do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. All bitterness, and rage, and wrath, and clamor, and abusive speech, must be removed from you, together with all wickedness. Become kind toward one another, compassionate, forgiving one another, just as also God in Christ has forgiven you.
If a believer in Christ can lose eternal life by uttering rotten/bitter words even though they believe in Christ for the forgiveness of their sins, it seems contradictory to the way Christ has forgiven all us sinners while still in our trespasses and sin.
Luckily for all believers who still need some work on our graceful speech to others, Paul doesn't say grieving the Holy Spirit defeats His work and Christ's forgiveness.
Romans 8:38-39
For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
If a believer in Christ can lose their eternal salvation by uttering rotten words, imagine the fate of those who use rotten words on Christian discussion boards.
It would mean that while it is God's grace that saves us, not any work of our own, that we can say something that renounces what Jesus Christ died for.
The contradiction of course is in that false argument that we can do something to lose our salvation is, while we cannot work to be saved, God wasted his time calling his elect to him knowing those chosen could work to revoke his will, and His Word, that is the saving grace of his only begotten Sonship. Jesus.
Is anyone here fluent in Latin? If yes, would someone kindly translate this? "Symbolum Niceæum Pristinum sans Filioque".
This may be of help in this discussion. I think it may assist in understanding the counter argument that is often made in the world concerning that which counters actual truth of Jesus Christ's sacrifice and Gospel. Maybe it sounds familiar to those who have visited forums before.
"The Orthodox Church claims to be the one true church of Christ, and seeks to trace its origin back to the original apostles through an unbroken chain of apostolic succession. Orthodox thinkers debate the spiritual status of Roman Catholics and Protestants, and a few still consider them heretics. Like Catholics and Protestants, however, Orthodox believers affirm the Trinity, the Bible as the Word of God, Jesus as God the Son, and many other biblical doctrines. However, in doctrine, they have much more in common with Roman Catholics than they do with Protestant Christians.
Sadly, the doctrine of justification by faith is virtually absent from the history and theology of the Orthodox Church. Rather, Orthodoxy emphasizes
theosis (literally, “divinization”), the gradual process by which Christians become more and more like Christ. What many in the Orthodox tradition fail to understand is that “divinization” is the progressive result of salvation, not a requirement for salvation itself. Other Orthodox distinctives that are in conflict with the Bible include:
The equal authority of
church tradition and Scripture
Discouragement of individuals interpreting the Bible apart from tradition
The
perpetual virginity of Mary
Prayer for the dead
Baptism of infants without reference to individual responsibility and faith
The possibility of receiving
salvation after death
The possibility of
losing salvation......"
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What is the Eastern Orthodox Church and what are the beliefs of Orthodox Christians?
