Where is Satan right now?

[Ret]

WW...where is Satan at RIGHT NOW...? Satan is 'locked up' in the pit (law), but in the 'snare' he is this 'angel of light' and appears to be free from law. I believe each 'nation' will answer to God, and to the extent they reject God they are 'in the pit' (dwell on the earth) or they are caught in the 'snare' (dwell 'under the earth'), or some combination of both.

Only when the gospel comes to an individual or a community is one 'free from the pit' or the 'snare', because they no longer live/dwell 'on the earth' or 'under the earth'.

• Revelation 3:10
  10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. KJV

 

[NIGHTMARE]

The only reference I have found is when he is locked away for the millennium.

Exactly. We are not in the millennium, therefore, Satan is not currently locked up.

What do you believe? Is he in the pit now or in heaven?

As Scripture shows he is lord of this world and "roams about seeking whom he may devour", so it makes sense that he is in this world. He may be able to enter heaven (see Job) but I don't think he is confined there.

Ok heres the problem,,,,

Rev. 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Where is God?????answer::heaven

So if satan is accusing us day and night,,,,to the Almighty God,,,wouldnt that place satan in heaven also???? I mean hes there day and night doing it......

ok,,,well what about this?????

Revelation 12:12 "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

Rejoice????This sounds like hes been there for a while,,,and now is finally gone for good

but unto the earth (hey thats us :o) WOE!!!!! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

My question,,,, of course would be,,,,, when did this happen??????,,,if it has even happen yet??????

 

[NIGHTMARE]

WW...where is Satan at RIGHT NOW...? Satan is 'locked up' in the pit (law), but in the 'snare' he is this 'angel of light' and appears to be free from law. I believe each 'nation' will answer to God, and to the extent they reject God they are 'in the pit' (dwell on the earth) or they are caught in the 'snare' (dwell 'under the earth'), or some combination of both.

Only when the gospel comes to an individual or a community is one 'free from the pit' or the 'snare', because they no longer live/dwell 'on the earth' or 'under the earth'.

• Revelation 3:10
  10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. KJV

How are you getting the word "LAW" from the word "PIT"??????

 

[jasoncran]

even though he's been kicked out maybe on the earth he's allowed to go to heaven and accuse the brethren or he yells the accusations to God from here, i prefer the latter.

jason

 

[NIGHTMARE]

even though he's been kicked out maybe on the earth he's allowed to go to heaven and accuse the brethren or he yells the accusations to God from here, i prefer the latter.

jason

ok Im feelin that,,,,but when did this happed????if it has happen????


Revelation 12:12 "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."


So your saying this happen already correct?????? COOL when did it happen though?????

and remember it says satan has a "short time",,,so we cant say it happen like agazillion years ago..

 

[jasoncran]

remember peter says that the devil roams the world seeking whom he may devour, luke 10:18 maybe the answer I beheld Satan as lighting fall from heaven, therefore imo the battle took place before the arrival of Christ on earth.

jason

 

[Ret]

How are you getting the word "LAW" from the word "PIT"??????

Pit is symbolic from where the stone tablets were hewn out by Moses to replace the former tablets Moses brake.

• Exodus 34:1
  34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.
  
  Deuteronomy 10:3
  3 And I made an ark of shittim wood, and hewed two tables of stone like unto the first, and went up into the mount, having the two tables in mine hand.
  
  Isaiah 51:1
  51:1 Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged.
  
  Lam 3:9 He hath inclosed my ways with hewn stone, he hath made my paths crooked.
  
  Ezek 11:19
  19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
  
  KJV

 

[Osgiliath]

Originally posted by jasoncran
There's a war in heaven and satan was cast out and he was angry because he knows he has a short time, when did this occur? maybe after the death of Jesus on the cross, or his ressurection

Your right Jason. The war in Heaven spoken of in Revelation 12:7-10 took place the day of Christ's Resurrection.

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down" (Revelation 12:7-10)

Look at these passages (this is a few days before His death when Jesus went to the temple):

John 12:28 "Father, glorify your name!" Then a voice came from heaven, "I have glorified it, and will glorify it again."

John 12:29 The crowd that was there and heard it said it had thundered; others said an angel had spoken to him.

John 12:30 Jesus said, "This voice was for your benefit, not mine."

John 12:31 "Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out"

** PS - Read 12:31 above over again :D

Revelation 12:13 clearly says the war in Heaven happened after the woman had given birth, and we also know that after Satan was cast out, an angel declared, "Now is come salvation...." (Revelation 12:10). This is because Jesus had just paid the price for sin and was resurrected (defeating death).

Also, check out the Greek in John 12:31 (above). It says:

John 12:31 "Now (right now) is the time for judgment on this world (i.e - that moment has come to see who will now win the contest); now the prince of this world will be driven out (of Heaven).

The Resurrection was the time for Satan to be driven out of Heaven, and that is what caused the war. Satan was thrown out of Heaven because Jesus had won the war and defeated death (i.e. defeated the devil - Hebrews 2:14).

Also, it is clear from Scripture that Satan was on the warpath following the Resurrection:

Revelation 12:13 "And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child."

And here is the evidence of the persecution mentioned in the above verse:

* "But Peter said, Ananias, Why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?" (Acts 5:3).

* "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you" (James 4:7).

* "Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and again; but Satan hindered us" (1 Thessalonians 2:18).

* "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus" (1 Corinthians 5:5).

* "Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices" (2 Corinthians 2:11).

* "Because your adversary, the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" (1 Peter 5:8).

* "And we know that we are of God, and the whole world [Greek - kosmos] lieth in the wicked one" (1 John 5:19).

* "According to the prince of the power of the air, that now worketh in the children of disobedience" (Ephesians 2:2).

* "Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme" (1 Timothy 1:20).

* "For some are already turned aside after Satan" (1 Timothy 5:15).

 

[researcher]

Originally posted by jasoncran
There's a war in heaven and satan was cast out and he was angry because he knows he has a short time, when did this occur? maybe after the death of Jesus on the cross, or his ressurection

Your right Jason. The war in Heaven spoken of in Revelation 12:7-10 took place the day of Christ's Resurrection.

Aaaaaaaaamen! :D I believe that is exactly what happened. :D Booyah! ;) :D

 

[Cornelius]

1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be watchful: your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour, (That places him right here on earth sometimes

and

Rev 12:10 And I heard a great voice in heaven, saying, Now is come the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who accuseth them before our God day and night.

He is also before God accusing you and I.

But after Rev 12, he will not be allowed before God anymore.Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast down, the old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world; he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him.

then he is bound for a thousand years in the abyss:

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, the old serpent, which is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 and cast him into the abyss, and shut it, and sealed it over him, that he should deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years should be finished: after this he must be loosed for a little time.

So the answer is: He is on earth and in heaven at this time, depending on what he is doing that day.

 

[whirlwind]

From the Scriptures gathered in this thread I believe, without a doubt, that Satan is presently locked in the pit...soon to be released. [Revelation 9:1-2] Now the question is....when was he placed there and exactly where is that pit? Was it when Jesus said, "get behind me Satan?" Surely there is more written about him being locked away. [/b]

What would it be like to spend a lifetime 'LOCKED UP' in FEAR - Terror...? Starting with Adam...

• Genesis 3:10 (Adam)
  10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid,
  because I was naked; and I hid myself. KJV
  
  Heb 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were
  all their lifetime subject to bondage. KJV
  
  Isaiah 24:17 Fear (terror), and the pit, and the snare,
  are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.
  
  *Revelation 5:3
  3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth,
  was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. KJV
  emphasis by Ret

WW...as far as Satan being "locked up" it is a spiritual thing in our mind. When my mind is 'locked up' it is the results of FEAR and I/we fall in to the pit. The fear of things 'in the earth' have to do with laws that govern the earth, including the stones in the 'pit'. There is another kind of fear that comes from 'under the earth'. This type of fear is loss of money, power and reputation.

So...where is Satan at RIGHT NOW...? Individually, that depends on where a person is with God in their spiritual experience. Collectively, as far as the world is concerned, I believe each 'nation' will answer to God, and to the extent they reject God they are 'in the pit' (dwell on the earth) or they are caught in the 'snare' and dwell 'under the earth'. Satan is 'locked up' in the pit (law), but in the 'snare' he is this 'angel of light' and appears to be free from law. Only when the gospel comes to an individual or a community is one 'free from the pit' or the 'snare', because they no longer live/dwell 'on the earth' or 'under the earth'.

• Revelation 3:10
  10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. KJV

You have given me a great deal to think about Ret...thank you.

 

[Benoni]

Youall have an all powerful Satan and a weak and helpless God. This is almost Satan worship.

 

[turnorburn]

Romans 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Amen!

 

[Benoni]

Wow... My seven year old grandaughter can quote verses too. :D

Romans 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Amen!

 

[Bubba]

Youall have an all powerful Satan and a weak and helpless God. This is almost Satan worship.

Benoni,
Would you say that Satan is not a being one should take lightly? Yes, he is God’s devil and God uses him as a tool or a servant to accomplish His perfect will, but he is nonetheless a reality that we should avoid and pray that God would protect us as individuals and the corporate Body from his schemes and wickedness.
Bubba

 

[Free]

Youall have an all powerful Satan and a weak and helpless God. This is almost Satan worship.

Not even close to what is being said. Please add something useful to the discussion or don't add anything.

 

[Benoni]

Benoni,
Would you say that Satan is not a being one should take lightly? Yes, he is God’s devil and God uses him as a tool or a servant to accomplish His perfect will, but he is nonetheless a reality that we should avoid and pray that God would protect us as individuals and the corporate Body from his schemes and wickedness.
Bubba

I do take him lightly; for he is nothing compared to who Jesus is.

He eats dust; that is our flesh, our fleshly word, our fleshly understanding, our fleshly minds and that is his food; he cannot touch that which is not flesh, the spirit. There is nothing Satan can do unless God has total control of it. All good and evil are subject to the sovereign control of God not Satan. Yes the earth is full of evils of man which was inspired by Satan; yes satan is the god of the earth; BUT God is the God of the earth.


The Psalmist David was perceptive in the Spirit when he wrote these immortal words, “The earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein†(Ps. 24:1). Does the earth belong to the devil? Does the world belong to the devil? Do they that dwell in the world belong to the devil? Does anything on the earth belong to the devil? Did any of it, even before Calvary, belong to the devil? Not in David’s day, it didn’t! “The earth is the Lord’s!†“And the fullness thereof!†“The world is the Lord’s!†“And they that dwell therein!†Who do you belong to? Who do the nations belong to? Who do the wicked belong to? IT IS ALL THE LORD’S! The devil doesn’t own one square inch of it, nor does he own one poor wretched human on it. God created the devil as a manslayer and a murderer from the devils beginning.

Not just a tree or two, not just a mountain or two, not just a nation or two, not just the church, but all the earth is the Lord’s and the very fullness thereof. We are His whether we know it or not, we are His whether we like it or not, whether we desire to serve Him, or whether we are presently in rebellion against His will. God has everything and - 4 - everyone in the palm of His almighty hand! He is Sovereign! Job said, “In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath (spirit) of all mankind†(Job 12:10).

The prophet Daniel penned these inspired words: “The Most High…liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and His kingdom is from generation to generation. All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand, or say unto Him, What doest Thou?†(Dan. 4:34-35).

God is saying to us that He is sovereign. Another way to express that truth is: God owns the earth and everything in it  He does what He wants to do and nobody can stop Him from doing it. In particular He is sovereign with what He does with the earth. God does not have to ask anybody’s permission to do anything He wants with any part of the earth or anyone on it  and none can hinder or resist Him!

If the earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof, then we need to somehow come to understand that God has never at any time dealt with satan on a percentage basis.

God never did tell Satan that he could have ninety percent and God would be satisfied with ten percent.

Neither did God ever say that satan could have ten percent and He, God, would settle for ninety percent.

WITH GOD IT IS ALL! ALL belongs to Him! First, because He created it, and second, because He redeemed it. Just as you may temporarily leave a valuable watch at the pawn shop and later return to redeem it, so God assigned to satan a temporary and limited sphere of influence over the creation, for the outworking of His wise and wonderful plan, but HE HAS NOT CEDED OR TRANSFERRED OWNERSHIP OF EVEN ONE INCH OF IT TO SATAN FOR A POSSESSION.

The reality is, after giving the adversary a limited lease and sphere of operation, God came down in the Person of His Son and redeemed the world and everything and everyone in it! In the same way that you get your watch back from the pawn shop when you redeem it, so God gained full control of the whole world when He redeemed it.

To say that there is any part of God’s creation that satan now sovereignly controls or that he will possess forever is a blatant repudiation of Christ’s redemption and a horrible blasphemy against God. The scriptures clearly reveal how ownership is the central factor in both creation and redemption, the link that binds them together.

Two things are inherent in ownership  purpose and responsibility.

Do you know that if a person makes or buys anything He surely has purpose in mind for it? And is it not equally true that when a person makes or buys a thing he then assumes the responsibility for it? The man who purchases a good hunting dog has a definite purpose in owning the dog, and if he is not a hunter he will not buy it.

With ownership of the dog there comes the responsibility for the dog, to feed and care for it and treat it humanely. You have, I suppose, sometime bought something? As you have paid your money for it and it was delivered to you did you not have a plan for it? And are you not now responsible for it?

Same with God’s creation, when He created it He had a plan and a purpose for that plan and He owns the earth and all that is in it.

Youall have an all powerful Satan and a weak and helpless God. This is almost Satan worship.

Benoni,
Would you say that Satan is not a being one should take lightly? Yes, he is God’s devil and God uses him as a tool or a servant to accomplish His perfect will, but he is nonetheless a reality that we should avoid and pray that God would protect us as individuals and the corporate Body from his schemes and wickedness.
Bubba

 

[Bubba]

Benoni,
I agree with what you wrote, but nonetheless Job and Peter were attacked by Satan under the watchful eye of God and suffered greatly, ultimately to their betterment. Yet, their misery was real and not taken lightly, we ought to fear the judgments and trials of God, and the instruments He uses (Isa. 54:16, Jude 1).
Peace, Bubba

 

[Benoni]

God was already pleased with Job, but he had a plan that would make Job even better. Job was a perfect man, but his perfection needed to be tested. Job said, "God knoweth the way that I take, and when He hath tried me I shall come forth as gold. For HE performeth the thing that is appointed for me, and many such things are with Him." Job 23:10 & 14.

God has prepared a special kind of testing for each individual. I praise God for my firey trials and tribulations and I have been thought God's fire. We all will either now or later. In Job 32.13, Elihu said, "God thrusteth Job down, and not man." We can well add, "And not Satan, either!"

God takes the full responsibility for every person's fall. These are parts of His ways. All negative forces are as a dog on a leash. They can only do what they are allowed to do by the Hand that holds the leash. The perplexities, the trials, the testings, the pressures and the failures are all God's responsibility and it will all be worked into our good.

I just believe Satan is nothing but a tool in the hands of an all powerful God and Satan has no power unless God ordained it. Look at Job it was God who inquired to Satan; it was God who had a hedge to protect Job. It was God who inquired to Satan what about my servant Job.

Got to go for now.

Benoni,
I agree with what you wrote, but nonetheless Job and Peter were attacked by Satan under the watchful eye of God and suffered greatly, ultimately to their betterment. Yet, their misery was real and not taken lightly, we ought to fear the judgments and trials of God, and the instruments He uses (Isa. 54:16, Jude 1).
Peace, Bubba

 

[Benoni]

Jesus got a dove when He was baptized in the river Jordon; Christian’s got cloven tongues of fire. I am not perfect and have not arrived and understand my God is a consuming fire and that is a good thing. Those who love the Lord and long to see His purpose fulfilled in their lives, are willing to accept Him as a refiner’s fire, as a thresher of wheat, as a presser of olives, as a crusher of grapes, and as a scourging Father! We accepted Him as Saviour, Baptizer, Healer, and Blesser; now we are accepting Him as the Lord of the fires! Our Father has made us willing to embrace the means He uses to perfect us. He perfects us in the crucible of adversities. The tribulations He sends us are not punishments for past failures, but divine tools to conform us to His image. Paul’s thorn in the flesh, Job’s loss of all his possessions, family, and health, Joseph’s betrayal by his brethren, his being sold as a slave, and later his being falsely accused and thrown into prison, were all for a divine purpose.