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Which Translation is the best.

AirDancer said:
James initiated a translation of the Bible into Scottish while he awaited the gain of the English throne. Once he had it verified that Elizabeth I was slowly slipping towards death, he re-assigned his transcribers to stop the Scottish translation and to focus on English. James viewed the Geneva Bible as more a heretic translation and poorly composed. Ethnocentrism at work there, presumably.

He did not see the Bible as a Roman church-only work of scripture. James had been raised protestant; yet, because of his parents, he also read & studied what he could of the Roman Church. However, he did not consider converting. He knew that he would run amok with his own nobility, and that it would forever prevent him from gaining the English throne after Elizabeth I's death.
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I think he was son of Mary, Queen of Scots.

Sometimes known in history as 'the Wisest Fool in Christendom'.
 
Yes, he was the only child that Mary Queen of Scots had with her 2nd husband Henry, Lord Darnley. James was a young toddler when he was crowned King of Scots.
 
Taking away from Gods word is taking sides with the devil the punishment is fitting and will be felt for all eternity the King James doesn't do this others do that's what I'm referring to..

Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

A person can't justify these findings

1:25--(FIRSTBORN) is out. Speaking of the Lord Jesus.
5:44--(BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU) is out.
6:13--(KINGDOM, POWER, GLORY) is out.
6:27--(STATURE) is changed to span of life.
6:33--(OF GOD) is out. Referring to the kingdom--
8:29--(JESUS) is out. As Son of God.
9:13--(TO REPENTANCE) is out. Calling sinners--
12:35--(OF THE HEART) is out. Good treasure--
12:47--(VERSE IS OUT) About Christ's mother.
13:51--(JESUS SAID UNTO THEM and LORD) is out.
15:8 --(DRAWETH UNTO ME WITH THEIR MOUTH) is out.
16:3 --(O YE HYPOCRITES) is out.
16:20--(JESUS) is out.
17:21--(VERSE IS OUT). About prayer and fasting.
18:11--(VERSE IS OUT). Tells Jesus came to save.
19:9 --(LAST 11 WORDS ARE OUT). About adultery.
19:17--(GOD) is out. None good but (God).
20:7 --(WHATSOEVER IS RIGHT RECEIVE) is out.
20:16--(MANY BE CALLED BUT FEW CHOSEN) is out.
20:22--(BAPTIZED WITH CHRIST'S BAPTISM) is out.
21:44--(VERSE IS OUT) About Christ the stone.
23:14--(VERSE IS OUT) Woe scribes and hypocrites.
25:13--(WHEREIN THE SON OF MAN COMETH) is out.
27:35--(FULFILLED SPOKEN BY THE PROPHET) is out.
27:54--(THE SON OF GOD) is A SON of God.
28:2 --(FROM THE DOOR) is out.
28:9 --(THEY WENT TO TELL HIS DISCIPLES) is out.



MARK
1:1 --(SON OF GOD) is out in Williams, Godspeed, Panin, Nestle, New
World, Westcott & Hort.
1:14--(OF THE KINGDOM) is out. Jesus gospel--
1:31--(IMMEDIATELY) is out. The fever left--
2:17--(TO REPENTANCE) is out. Call sinners--
6:11--(MORE TOLERABLE FOR SODOM & GOMORRHA) is out.
6:16--(FROM THE DEAD) is out. John is risen--
6:33--(HIM) is changed to them.
7:8 --(WASHING OF POTS AND CUPS) is out.
7:16--(VERSE IS OUT) About having an ear to hear.
9:24--(LORD) is out. A believer called Him Lord.
9:42--(IN ME) is out. Little ones that believe--
9:44--(VERSE IS OUT) About fire not quenched.
9:46--(VERSE IS OUT) Where worm dieth not.
9:49--(EVERY SACRIFICE SHALL BE SALTED) is out.
10:21--(TAKE UP THE CROSS) is out. Jesus said--
10:24--(FOR THEM THAT TRUST IN RICHES) is out.
11:10--(IN THE NAME OF THE LORD) is out.
11:26--(VERSE IS OUT) If ye do not forgive, etc.
13:14--(SPOKEN BY DANIEL THE PROPHET) is out.
13:33--(AND PRAY) is out, or in italics.
14:68--(AND THE COCK CREW) is out.
15:28--(VERSE IS OUT) Scripture was fulfilled, etc.
15:39--(THE SON OF GOD) is A SON of God.
16:9-20--(12 VERSES ARE OUT) in some Bibles...

tob
 
turnorburn said:
Taking away from Gods word is taking sides with the devil the punishment is fitting and will be felt for all eternity the King James doesn't do this others do that's what I'm referring to..

Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

A person can't justify these findings

1:25--(FIRSTBORN) is out. Speaking of the Lord Jesus.
5:44--(BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU) is out.
6:13--(KINGDOM, POWER, GLORY) is out.
6:27--(STATURE) is changed to span of life.
6:33--(OF GOD) is out. Referring to the kingdom--
8:29--(JESUS) is out. As Son of God.
9:13--(TO REPENTANCE) is out. Calling sinners--
12:35--(OF THE HEART) is out. Good treasure--
12:47--(VERSE IS OUT) About Christ's mother.
13:51--(JESUS SAID UNTO THEM and LORD) is out.
15:8 --(DRAWETH UNTO ME WITH THEIR MOUTH) is out.
16:3 --(O YE HYPOCRITES) is out.
16:20--(JESUS) is out.
17:21--(VERSE IS OUT). About prayer and fasting.
18:11--(VERSE IS OUT). Tells Jesus came to save.
19:9 --(LAST 11 WORDS ARE OUT). About adultery.
19:17--(GOD) is out. None good but (God).
20:7 --(WHATSOEVER IS RIGHT RECEIVE) is out.
20:16--(MANY BE CALLED BUT FEW CHOSEN) is out.
20:22--(BAPTIZED WITH CHRIST'S BAPTISM) is out.
21:44--(VERSE IS OUT) About Christ the stone.
23:14--(VERSE IS OUT) Woe scribes and hypocrites.
25:13--(WHEREIN THE SON OF MAN COMETH) is out.
27:35--(FULFILLED SPOKEN BY THE PROPHET) is out.
27:54--(THE SON OF GOD) is A SON of God.
28:2 --(FROM THE DOOR) is out.
28:9 --(THEY WENT TO TELL HIS DISCIPLES) is out.



MARK
1:1 --(SON OF GOD) is out in Williams, Godspeed, Panin, Nestle, New
World, Westcott & Hort.
1:14--(OF THE KINGDOM) is out. Jesus gospel--
1:31--(IMMEDIATELY) is out. The fever left--
2:17--(TO REPENTANCE) is out. Call sinners--
6:11--(MORE TOLERABLE FOR SODOM & GOMORRHA) is out.
6:16--(FROM THE DEAD) is out. John is risen--
6:33--(HIM) is changed to them.
7:8 --(WASHING OF POTS AND CUPS) is out.
7:16--(VERSE IS OUT) About having an ear to hear.
9:24--(LORD) is out. A believer called Him Lord.
9:42--(IN ME) is out. Little ones that believe--
9:44--(VERSE IS OUT) About fire not quenched.
9:46--(VERSE IS OUT) Where worm dieth not.
9:49--(EVERY SACRIFICE SHALL BE SALTED) is out.
10:21--(TAKE UP THE CROSS) is out. Jesus said--
10:24--(FOR THEM THAT TRUST IN RICHES) is out.
11:10--(IN THE NAME OF THE LORD) is out.
11:26--(VERSE IS OUT) If ye do not forgive, etc.
13:14--(SPOKEN BY DANIEL THE PROPHET) is out.
13:33--(AND PRAY) is out, or in italics.
14:68--(AND THE COCK CREW) is out.
15:28--(VERSE IS OUT) Scripture was fulfilled, etc.
15:39--(THE SON OF GOD) is A SON of God.
16:9-20--(12 VERSES ARE OUT) in some Bibles...

tob
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If these are in the original, fine. I believe many of them probably are, in fact.

What we cannot justfiably do, however, is to 'correct' Greek - some Greek texts are more reliable than others - by the English.
 
turnorburn said:
@ farouk Lets try this: do you have another bible other than a King James?

tob
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Yes, the 21 Century King James. Also, the Segond Bible in French, and the Reina-Valera Bible in Spanish (these weren't translated from the English of the King James). You see, it's the original that gives a printed translation -such as the King James - its authority textually.
 
Well i was looking for an English version i don't speak another language.. so how would this work, lets see what Acts 8 verses 35-39 looks like.. can you copy and paste those verses

Thanks.. :)

tob
 
turnorburn said:
Well i was looking for an English version i don't speak another language.. so how would this work, lets see what Acts 8 verses 35-39 looks like.. can you copy and paste those verses

Thanks.. :)

tob
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Are those verse in the Greek or were they derived from the Latin? this is a question to ask.

Blessings.
 
O.k. then maybe someone else has bible "Other than the King James" with those verses handy, what does yours say?

tob
 
turnorburn said:
O.k. then maybe someone else has bible "Other than the King James" with those verses handy, what does yours say?

tob
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Are you trying to prove that they are genuine because the English has them? or because the original (however defined) has them?

Blessings.
 
turnorburn said:
Taking away from Gods word is taking sides with the devil the punishment is fitting and will be felt for all eternity the King James doesn't do this others do that's what I'm referring to..

Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

A person can't justify these findings

1:25--(FIRSTBORN) is out. Speaking of the Lord Jesus.
5:44--(BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU) is out.
6:13--(KINGDOM, POWER, GLORY) is out.
6:27--(STATURE) is changed to span of life.
6:33--(OF GOD) is out. Referring to the kingdom--
8:29--(JESUS) is out. As Son of God.
9:13--(TO REPENTANCE) is out. Calling sinners--
12:35--(OF THE HEART) is out. Good treasure--
12:47--(VERSE IS OUT) About Christ's mother.
13:51--(JESUS SAID UNTO THEM and LORD) is out.
15:8 --(DRAWETH UNTO ME WITH THEIR MOUTH) is out.
16:3 --(O YE HYPOCRITES) is out.
16:20--(JESUS) is out.
17:21--(VERSE IS OUT). About prayer and fasting.
18:11--(VERSE IS OUT). Tells Jesus came to save.
19:9 --(LAST 11 WORDS ARE OUT). About adultery.
19:17--(GOD) is out. None good but (God).
20:7 --(WHATSOEVER IS RIGHT RECEIVE) is out.
20:16--(MANY BE CALLED BUT FEW CHOSEN) is out.
20:22--(BAPTIZED WITH CHRIST'S BAPTISM) is out.
21:44--(VERSE IS OUT) About Christ the stone.
23:14--(VERSE IS OUT) Woe scribes and hypocrites.
25:13--(WHEREIN THE SON OF MAN COMETH) is out.
27:35--(FULFILLED SPOKEN BY THE PROPHET) is out.
27:54--(THE SON OF GOD) is A SON of God.
28:2 --(FROM THE DOOR) is out.
28:9 --(THEY WENT TO TELL HIS DISCIPLES) is out.



MARK
1:1 --(SON OF GOD) is out in Williams, Godspeed, Panin, Nestle, New
World, Westcott & Hort.
1:14--(OF THE KINGDOM) is out. Jesus gospel--
1:31--(IMMEDIATELY) is out. The fever left--
2:17--(TO REPENTANCE) is out. Call sinners--
6:11--(MORE TOLERABLE FOR SODOM & GOMORRHA) is out.
6:16--(FROM THE DEAD) is out. John is risen--
6:33--(HIM) is changed to them.
7:8 --(WASHING OF POTS AND CUPS) is out.
7:16--(VERSE IS OUT) About having an ear to hear.
9:24--(LORD) is out. A believer called Him Lord.
9:42--(IN ME) is out. Little ones that believe--
9:44--(VERSE IS OUT) About fire not quenched.
9:46--(VERSE IS OUT) Where worm dieth not.
9:49--(EVERY SACRIFICE SHALL BE SALTED) is out.
10:21--(TAKE UP THE CROSS) is out. Jesus said--
10:24--(FOR THEM THAT TRUST IN RICHES) is out.
11:10--(IN THE NAME OF THE LORD) is out.
11:26--(VERSE IS OUT) If ye do not forgive, etc.
13:14--(SPOKEN BY DANIEL THE PROPHET) is out.
13:33--(AND PRAY) is out, or in italics.
14:68--(AND THE COCK CREW) is out.
15:28--(VERSE IS OUT) Scripture was fulfilled, etc.
15:39--(THE SON OF GOD) is A SON of God.
16:9-20--(12 VERSES ARE OUT) in some Bibles...

tob
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This is still the fallacy of begging the question, as I pointed out on the previous page.
 
Free said:
This is still the fallacy of begging the question, as I pointed out on the previous page.
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The question does not start with me reading it in the English, but rather with how it got there over the centuries in the first place.
 
turnorburn said:
Free said:

It may bring you to that conclusion all i said was that the King James version has been under attack from day one.. and said attack will continue until they either take away our bibles or establish a one world translation that the last generation can live with, which i believe is where this is all headed.

II Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

tob
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The KJV is not under attack. That is an argument used by KJVOism to justify their sustained attacks against other versions, and this done through some of the most fallacious reasoning one can come across. KJVOism is simply a tool of the devil to divide the Church, nothing more.
 
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