White police vs. American blacks

[stovebolts]

If everyone could demonstrate love, people could have heaven on earth.

I agree. However, pure evil does exist and we won’t experience the utopia you describe until the world to come.
But to your point, we are called to walk as Jesus walked and that means laying our life down in order that others may be saved.

If you would afford me the opportunity, let’s talk about evil. I mean, let’s get a biblical view on what evil looks like.

We often associate evil with bad behavior and we often draw these black and white lines in the sand about what is evil, and what is good.

In Leviticus 23, we see all of the high holidays mentioned and how they are to be conducted. Ironically, Moses interjects for the second time that farmers are to leave the corners of their fields as a way for God to provide for the orphan, widow and alien. Why is this the second time Moses mentions this and why is it with the highest holidays in Israel’s memory?

Simple... don’t let your religion get in the way of doing what’s right.

You see, to allow harm ( in this case hunger and malnutrition) to another when God has provided you with the means to assist them is in fact the very face of evil.

Jesus uses an example of this when he healed on the Sabbath and uses the example of saving a donkey from a ditch. To allow another to be harmed when you have the means to prevent it is a sin.

In the case of the Police, it’s their job to help others in need, and to prevent harm to others, even if that means bringing deadly force against the one who will not stop harming others or who are in the act of harming others.

This man has a sexual record with a minor. If you had a daughter and you walked in on a man sexually assaulting her, would you allow it, or would you try and prevent further harm from occurring to your daughter even if it meant killing him to save her?

Jesus went to the cross to save all humanity, yet not all will be saved. Those who will not be saved are those who reject good and love the darkness. To those, their condemnation is deserved.

 

[JLB]

This is Jesus in action

Amen. The Lord is good.


This is also Jesus in action.

And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
Zechariah 14:12


JLB

 

[Quantrill]

They lean that way because their leaders that they listen to have been deceiving them for decades. They are paid to deceive them.


I agree that when these things happen it’s always the same ole same ole. Armies of young black men and women looting liquor stores and check cashiers. They are looking to get something for free. They have been brainwashed by the left to think they are entitled.



JLB

Brainwashed into being entitled? Hogwash. They accept it because they want it. And, they want it because they are more adapted to criminal behavior.

Those who don't break the law, I guess they have been brain washed into obeying the law?

Quantrill

 

[jasonc]

I'm not saying don't intervene with situations. If there was a mall shooter, I would go right up to him and disarm him.

good luck .you would just be able to strut up and disarm a guy .cops train for that and have back up weapons and must also drill with that gun too to keep their badge ,they also carry a knife to stab people who try that .I have trained for that

 

[Quantrill]

The confederate flag is a symbol of the Democrats in the south that fought against the Republican‘s because Lincoln passed the 13th amendment to free the slaves.

The Confederate flag is a symbol of racism, but it’s the Democrats that were behind it at the time.

Just like it was Democrats that started the KKK.

Martin Luther King was a Republican.

These are all well known facts that the “cancel culture” brain washed, left wing lunatics don’t want Americans to remember.



JLB

No it's not. The Confederate flag is representative of a Southern white people who wanted independence from the Union and be able to rule over themselves. It is representative of a people who wanted to be true to the Constitution.

Lincoln didn't pass any 13th amendment. He was long dead.

Democrats and Republicans are not the same today as they were in 1860. You act like the KKK was an evil thing. Why? It saved the South from the horrors of the Reconstruction, which you apparently know nothing of either.

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[stovebolts]

Brainwashed into being entitled? Hogwash. They accept it because they want it. And, they want it because they are more adapted to criminal behavior.

Those who don't break the law, I guess they have been brain washed into obeying the law?

Quantrill

What he is speaking about is called systemic sin. It starts from leadership and filters below to society.

Solomon is a prime example of this. He allowed his wives to build altars to sacrifice even their children to their gods. This authorized the Israelites to do the same.

 

[stovebolts]

No it's not. The Confederate flag is representative of a Southern white people who wanted independence from the Union and be able to rule over themselves. It is representative of a people who wanted to be true to the Constitution.

You mean they wanted to rule over the Blacks.
BTW, The Union was Republican.

Democrats and Republicans are not the same today as they were in 1860. You act like the KKK was an evil thing. Why? It saved the South from the horrors of the Reconstruction, which you apparently know nothing of either.

You mean the horrors such as the 15th amendment that allowed Black men to vote?

Ku Klux Klan: Origin, Members & Facts | HISTORY

The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is an American white supremacist terrorist hate group founded in 1865. It became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Party’s Reconstruction‑era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for Black Americans.

www.history.com

From 1867 onward, African-American participation in public life in the South became one of the most radical aspects of Reconstruction, as Black people won election to southern state governments and even to the U.S. Congress. For its part, the Ku Klux Klan dedicated itself to an underground campaign of violence against Republican leaders and voters (both Black and white) in an effort to reverse the policies of Radical Reconstruction and restore white supremacy in the South. They were joined in this struggle by similar organizations such as the Knights of the White Camelia (launched in Louisiana in 1867) and the White Brotherhood. At least 10 percent of the Black legislators elected during the 1867-1868 constitutional conventions became victims of violence during Reconstruction, including seven who were killed. White Republicans (derided as “carpetbaggers” and “scalawags”) and Black institutions such as schools and churches—symbols of Black autonomy—were also targets for Klan attacks.

 

[Quantrill]

What he is speaking about is called systemic sin. It starts from leadership and filters below to society.

Solomon is a prime example of this. He allowed his wives to build altars to sacrifice even their children to their gods. This authorized the Israelites to do the same.

I believe this discussion is 'political'. It deals with race and politics. You can't interject 'what would Jesus do' like Rollo Tamasi did with you in post #(52). You can't run a nation as you run a church. You would never survive.

My Christianity certainly affects my politics. But I have to recognize that the nation of the U.S. is still part of the world system under satan's rule. And they are not going to be concerned over the sins of Solomon. In our beginning, perhaps, as the nation was Christian. But not now. And in our beginning we were Christian and white.

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[Quantrill]

You mean they wanted to rule over the Blacks.
BTW, The Union was Republican.


You mean the horrors such as the 15th amendment that allowed Black men to vote?

Ku Klux Klan: Origin, Members & Facts | HISTORY

The Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is an American white supremacist terrorist hate group founded in 1865. It became a vehicle for white southern resistance to the Republican Party’s Reconstruction‑era policies aimed at establishing political and economic equality for Black Americans.

www.history.com

From 1867 onward, African-American participation in public life in the South became one of the most radical aspects of Reconstruction, as Black people won election to southern state governments and even to the U.S. Congress. For its part, the Ku Klux Klan dedicated itself to an underground campaign of violence against Republican leaders and voters (both Black and white) in an effort to reverse the policies of Radical Reconstruction and restore white supremacy in the South. They were joined in this struggle by similar organizations such as the Knights of the White Camelia (launched in Louisiana in 1867) and the White Brotherhood. At least 10 percent of the Black legislators elected during the 1867-1868 constitutional conventions became victims of violence during Reconstruction, including seven who were killed. White Republicans (derided as “carpetbaggers” and “scalawags”) and Black institutions such as schools and churches—symbols of Black autonomy—were also targets for Klan attacks.

As I said, Democrat and Republican are not the same today as they were then.

Yankee Reconstructionist's dedicated themselves to violence against the Southern white people. They wanted to establish black supremacy over the South thus solidifying Republican rule and New England control over the whole country.

Southern whites, the KKK, reacted and fought against that. As they should have. As any man worth his salt would have. You want to bleed for the blacks. You cast off the Southern whites as trash. You rejoice at the black mans right to vote. You say nothing of the Southern whites who were not allowed to vote.

It was a fight for survival. And as I have said before, that is what a race war is. And when it occurs here, which it will, no mercy will be given by either side. Black or white.

How many of those blacks go to black churches who are rioting and looting and burning the cities down? I guarantee you a lot of them do. So did the right reverend Jesse Jackson. See, race will trump Christianity in that day.

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[jasonc]

I,study that era of history I,Florida ,the civil,war is a backdrop to many communities.
the kkk lynched blacks here and held them in fear.in the 20s the blacks talk about a sheriff of st.Lucie and in,the 50s in my,county who ignored crimes against blacks .

 

[JLB]

Lincoln didn't pass any 13th amendment. He was long dead.

President Abraham Lincoln

The 13th amendment, which formally abolished slavery in the United States, passed the Senate on April 8, 1864, and the House on January 31, 1865. On February 1, 1865, President Abraham Lincoln approved the Joint Resolution of Congress submitting the proposed amendment to the state legislatures.

 

[stovebolts]

As I said, Democrat and Republican are not the same today as they were then.

Yankee Reconstructionist's dedicated themselves to violence against the Southern white people. They wanted to establish black supremacy over the South thus solidifying Republican rule and New England control over the whole country.

Southern whites, the KKK, reacted and fought against that. As they should have. As any man worth his salt would have. You want to bleed for the blacks. You cast off the Southern whites as trash. You rejoice at the black mans right to vote. You say nothing of the Southern whites who were not allowed to vote.

It was a fight for survival. And as I have said before, that is what a race war is. And when it occurs here, which it will, no mercy will be given by either side. Black or white.

How many of those blacks go to black churches who are rioting and looting and burning the cities down? I guarantee you a lot of them do. So did the right reverend Jesse Jackson. See, race will trump Christianity in that day.

Quantrill

Well then, I’m sure you know more about that era of history than I do and the version of history you tell is t written in the history books. But then again, the winner always gets to write history, don’t they?
Thats what I appreciate about the Bible.... It exposes all of their shortcomings....

That being said, regardless of what was in the past, this is today and each day is a new day which we get to say new things and do new things. In light of history, the KKK has as much right in our society as Antifa. Within. Christianity, neither has a place.

 

[stovebolts]

I,study that era of history I,Florida ,the civil,war is a backdrop to many communities.
the kkk lynched blacks here and held them in fear.in the 20s the blacks talk about a sheriff of st.Lucie and in,the 50s in my,county who ignored crimes against blacks .

That’s sad. Wrong is wrong. In Detroit, there are remnants of segregation.

 

[jasonc]

That’s sad. Wrong is wrong. In Detroit, there are remnants of segregation.

you see my photos .I post my photos with explanation of its story .look,up,the gas stations .most of those are old colored bathroom types.I created a thread in my,towns page on old gas stations going back and dated them ,the second oldest being a car wash now and the the oldest a car repair shop .

 

[Quantrill]

President Abraham Lincoln

The 13th amendment, which formally abolished slavery in the United States, passed the Senate on April 8, 1864, and the House on January 31, 1865. On February 1, 1865, President Abraham Lincoln approved the Joint Resolution of Congress submitting the proposed amendment to the state legislatures.

The original 13th amendment, which Lincoln supported, declared that the blacks would be slaves forever in the U.S. No amendment allowed.

Lincoln was bs. Politics. Whatever way the wind blew, he moved.

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[Quantrill]

Well then, I’m sure you know more about that era of history than I do and the version of history you tell is t written in the history books. But then again, the winner always gets to write history, don’t they?
Thats what I appreciate about the Bible.... It exposes all of their shortcomings....

That being said, regardless of what was in the past, this is today and each day is a new day which we get to say new things and do new things. In light of history, the KKK has as much right in our society as Antifa. Within. Christianity, neither has a place.

But....that is the problem. Neither you or anyone else listens to history. History doesn't matter to yall. What matters to yall is the PC accepted bs of the day.

Your bringing the 'Bible' into it is nothing more than what I said before. You don't run nations like a church. You don't say, 'what would Jesus do' in a government. Ridiculous. When Jesus is sitting on the throne in Israel, during the Millennium, then you can say concerning government, 'what would Jesus do'.

Why doesn't the KKK have a place in Christianity? Be specific.

Quantrill

 

[humble soul]

Tasers don't work? Need something that immobilises the one resisting, without fail. So we can avoid serious injury or death. Improve effectiveness of tasers?
I'm betting Jason will love answering this one.

 

[ezrider]

In the case of the Police, it’s their job to help others in need, and to prevent harm to others, even if that means bringing deadly force against the one who will not stop harming others or who are in the act of harming others.

This man has a sexual record with a minor. If you had a daughter and you walked in on a man sexually assaulting her, would you allow it, or would you try and prevent further harm from occurring to your daughter even if it meant killing him to save her?

I used to have more respect for your opinions, but its events like this that expose our hearts and reveal the nature of the fruits we bare. I'm sorry to say, but yours is looking a bit on the sour side.


This man had a sexual record? SO WHAT! Was he caught in the act of raping someone when he was shot in the back seven times? If he wasn't, then why do you use it to justify these horrible things for yourself?

You claimed earlier that we are a nation of laws, but you speak with a forked tongue and you are full of hypocrisy. Our Laws set forth institutions, Courts, and Judges and such. A system of laws that are meant to provide JUSTICE under those laws. Something the Pharisees forgot too. But you don't seem to like these laws, you seem more than happy to justify a cop as being the sole judge, jury and executioner.


When a people are crying out for EQUAL JUSTICE under the law, you want to keep them in their place. Then you go to great lengths to defend the actions of someone who would deny them any form of justice under the law, because you justified in your mind that he deserved it.

You use your laws to OPRESS people; this DID NOT JESUS DO!

Do you suppose yourself as one ready to rule and reign with Christ?

 

[humble soul]

This man had a sexual record? SO WHAT

Tend to to agree that this was irrelevant.

 

[jasonc]

Tasers don't work? Need something that immobilises the one resisting, without fail. So we can avoid serious injury or death. Improve effectiveness of tasers?
I'm betting Jason will love answering this one.

no such thing,as unstoppable tool.

look I have been tazed and oc sprayed and in,order to use them you must be hit by,them .I,will take a tazer over of spray and I can resist and fight out of oc spray .they train you too ,even if shot a close enough drug head cam still kill you .its been documented.