Who is the devil

Classik · Feb 23, 2013

Everyday we wrestle against p&p. We fight against the devil. Who is this devil???

Sparkey · Feb 23, 2013

Here is a topical study found online that may help you answer this for yourself:
200 Bible Verses about...
Satan

Claudya · Feb 23, 2013

Some people say he resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, D.C. :lol

Joking aside. Whenever we have to fight against the evil within ourselves we actually fight against the devil. That's important to remember, so we know how important it is to keep fighting.

Sparrowhawk, thanks for the link. Definitely gonna read that!

Guest · Feb 23, 2013

The devil is just another name for Satan and Lucifer. The big guy has three names, does he not?
And six demons under him, a demon for each sin.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_demons

iLOVE · Feb 23, 2013

1 John 3:1-10

English Standard Version (ESV)

3 See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. 2 Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. 3 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.
4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. 10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

Those who practice sin is the Devil. As stated ,Jesus saves from sin, not in sin.

iLOVE · Feb 23, 2013

iLOVE said:
1 John 3:1-10

English Standard Version (ESV)

3 See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. 2 Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. 3 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.
4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. 10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

Those who practice sin is the Devil. As stated ,Jesus saves from sin, not in sin.

Trained by Saving Grace

11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, 12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, 13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, 14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.
15 Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you.

Grace teaches us. Titus 2:11-15

duari91 · Feb 24, 2013

Most people attribute extreme power to this being.

However; It is God who grants ALL power to ALL beings. Job 1:12 "The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger." Then Satan went out from the presence of the LORD."

Remember, he is a created being, just like us. He cannot be everywhere at once like God can, he cannot create his own power like God can, and he does not have true free will. God permits everything he does. In every sense of the word, he is OUR greatest enemy. Most people attribute EVERYTHING with the devil. You get cancer, it's the devil. Someone gets angry at you, it's the devil. The fact of the matter is simple. Since the devil is a created being, you can be sure he is careful on where he expends his energy. You can rest assured that he does not bother with drug addicts, fornicators...ect. Why would he? Those people are creating their own downfall, without his help. Christians are his biggest target, so he is always at work creating new religions, and trying to derail our faith.

One day very soon, he will be defeated, and destroyed.

Kaliani · Feb 24, 2013

duari91 said:
Most people attribute EVERYTHING with the devil.

Well, this hasn't been my experience. People seem, to me, embarrassed to even mention the devil.

JCitoL · Feb 24, 2013

the devil is the appearance of the "darkness" and its main spirit/deity, and as all its appearances/spirits so satan has no soul, but is an inanimate entity

Blessings

Stone-yarder · Feb 24, 2013

JCitoL said:
the devil is the appearance of the "darkness" and its main spirit/deity, and as all its appearances/spirits so satan has no soul, but is an inanimate entity

Blessings

Inanimate???? Then how did jesus have a conversation with him?

Matthew 4

King James Version (KJV)

4 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Classik · Feb 24, 2013

JCitoL said:
the devil is the appearance of the "darkness" and its main spirit/deity, and as all its appearances/spirits so satan has no soul, but is an inanimate entity

Blessings

Thanks. However, would it be appropriate to say (judging from your definition) that he is the opposite of another deity??? If yes...then to what extent is he the opposite of that deity??? :dunno :shrug

JCitoL · Feb 24, 2013

Stone-yarder said:
Inanimate???? Then how did jesus have a conversation with him?

Matthew 4

the devil is an intelligent/sage inanimate spirit

Blessings

JCitoL · Feb 24, 2013

Classik said:
Thanks. However, would it be appropriate to say (judging from your definition) that he is the opposite of another deity??? If yes...then to what extent is he the opposite of that deity??? :dunno

we meant that the devil is the main appearance/spirit/deity of the "darkness"

Blessings

enlightened · Feb 24, 2013

JCitoL said:
the devil is an intelligent/sage inanimate spirit

Blessings

How did you prove that to yourself, or by what scriptures do you rely for your interpretation?

JCitoL · Feb 24, 2013

enlightened said:
How did you prove that to yourself, or by what scriptures do you rely for your interpretation?

we as a rule testified by faith in God and Jesus, not by scripture, but the sanity can also figure out that the evil spirits are inanimate appearances/things of the "darkness", while the souls are things of the true God, because also it is written that He created the human/ensouled beings, while there is no verification in the Scripture that satan was made of God, then He would have been unrighteous if He was the creator of any evil thing

Blessings

Classik · Feb 24, 2013

The devil is inanimate? There's sense in it. I've never thought about it before.

He isn't man! We have life. The devil's a spirit

Aardverk · Feb 26, 2013

This is going off at a bit of a tangent but your question prompted this thought...

Imagine you are walking alone in some dark and misty alley or country pathway and you meet a gravelly voiced stranger. There is the smell of sulphur and smoke in the air and small unseen creatures scurrying all around you. He tells you that he is the son of Satan come to earth to give you whatever your heart desires - and then you see his eyes glow red. What is your reaction? I think few of us would remain completely calm. Most of us would be spooked to some extent. All of us would have an adrenaline rush and a great many of us would just turn and run but it was of course just a good halloween trick carried out on a cold February night.

Now imagine a beautiful day in a lovely park or countryside. The sun is shining and the birds are singing. A quietly spoken stranger approaches you, claims to be the son of God and asks is there anything he can do for you? What is your reaction? I suspect that most of us would think, uh, oh, another nut-job, how can I get rid of him? We wouldn't be scared of him, he seems harmless enough and we can tolerate him as long as he doesn't get too intrusive.

The point I am trying to make is that we are probably far more likely to believe that someone is the devil or a demon than we are to think that someone is the son of God or an angel. We seem far more ready to think ill of people. I wonder why that is? Do we expect the evil but not goodness?

Grazer · Feb 26, 2013

The guys over at beyond the box are discussing this at the moment

thisnumbersdisconnected · Feb 26, 2013

Aardverk said:
We seem far more ready to think ill of people. I wonder why that is? Do we expect the evil but not goodness?

Because the heart of man is evil, and is only made righteous through the blood of Christ.

JCitoL · Feb 26, 2013

Classik said:
The devil is inanimate? There's sense in it. I've never thought about it before.

He isn't man! We have life. The devil's a spirit

yes, the "darkness" is the uncaused dark side of the divine, and all its primordial appearances/spirits are inanimate entities: satan, the "beast", the "death", the "hell", the "whore", the devils/evil spirits, etc. - all they are not ensouled beings

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