Yes, that's what I'm asking for... with scripture.
One misunderstanding, is the misunderstanding of the Trinity, by Oneness folks, who claim that Trinity belief is the belief in Three Gods, rather than One God.
This is addressed to Jim Parker. I'm happy to give him the honor of replying.
I'd just like to say that I'm pretty darn confused. What is this "Oneness" folks?
You call it the Oneness folks and then you pretty much go on to describe the Holy Trinity.
Trinitarians DO NOT believe in 3 different Gods. Doesn't that go against the 1st and most important commandment?
The Holy Trinity is not an easy concept which is why Jim Parker is saying he could only give his own personal interpretatin. However, it IS the accepted concept in traditinal Christianity. Now if you don't wish to believe it or understand it in some in some different way, that's your prerogative and will not lead to loss of your salvation, IMO. Salvation is not contingent on this type of differeing belief or we'd all be in a lot of trouble.
This is why it's not right to not accept a term such as The Holy Trinity just because it isn't in the bible. It's important to use terms which describe Christianity precisely to avoid confusion such as I notice in this thread.
If you speak of the Trinity I know exactly what you're speaking of (even though I may not understand it). If you start telling me Yahweh is Jesus, we get a little lost since each person has its own specific attributes.
However, you're right in saying that God Himself has come to save us (Ezekiel, Jeremiah) in the person of Jesus Christ. But it's not right to say that Yahweh is Jesus. See, it gets confusing once you go away from the CONCEPT of the Trinity which is stated in the bible but the word is not used.
What did Jesus mean when He said: Go and baptize in the name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit?
Do you see in that sentence somewhere that one was less than another, or that one was more than another?
No. They're all the same and they're all different and they're all one.
I am a mother
a sister
an aunt
but I'm one person. I retain one nature but am thought of as having 3 different roles.
Now, in your post no. 372, you quote from a source:
Oneness theology denies the Trinity and teaches that God is a single person who was "manifested as Father in creation and as the Father of the Son, in the Son for our redemption, and as the Holy Spirit in our regeneration."1 Another way of looking at it is that God revealed Himself as Father in the Old Testament and as the Son in Jesus during Christ’s ministry on earth and now as the Holy Spirit after Christ’s ascension.
The beautiful message of Scripture is that our Creator became our Savior. The God against whom we sinned is the One who forgives us. God loved us so much that He came in flesh to save us. He gave of Himself; He did not send someone else. Moreover, our Creator-Savior is also the indwelling Spirit who is ever-present to help us. God told us how to live and then came to live among us. He showed us how to live in the flesh and laid down His human life to purchase our salvation. Now He abides within us and enables us to live according to His will.
Jesus Christ is the one God incarnate, and in Him we have everything we need: healing, deliverance, victory, and salvation
(Colossians 2:9-10). By recognizing the almighty God in Jesus Christ, we restore correct biblical belief and experience apostolic power.
Okay. Could you explain the difference of the minute nuance as expressed above? I've asked you before but I'm unable to get a clear answer. Maybe it can't be clear because maybe there's no difference between what is highlighted above and the understanding of the Trinity.
Of course, you don't have to reply if you don't care to.
Wondering