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Why Faith Alone?

Now....what happens when God gets fed up with people sinning against him? What would have happened if Jesus said, "I'm tired of these sinners abusing me. I don't like the way they sin against me, mocking and beating me."

What does our Father do when he has had enough of mankinds sins?

He wad wounded for enduring our transgressions. God help us.

Then the sixth angel sounded: And I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.”
So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind. Now the number of the army of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone.
By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed—by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths. For their power is in their mouth and in their tails; for their tails are like serpents, having heads; and with them they do harm. But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor three plagues a third of mankind was killed—by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths. For their power is in their mouth and in their tails; for their tails are like serpents, having heads; and with them they do harm. But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.
Revelation 9:13-21
 
Then the sixth angel sounded: And I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.”
So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind. Now the number of the army of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them. And thus I saw the horses in the vision: those who sat on them had breastplates of fiery red, hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow; and the heads of the horses were like the heads of lions; and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and brimstone.
By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed—by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths. For their power is in their mouth and in their tails; for their tails are like serpents, having heads; and with them they do harm. But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor three plagues a third of mankind was killed—by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths. For their power is in their mouth and in their tails; for their tails are like serpents, having heads; and with them they do harm. But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.
Revelation 9:13-21
I don't know why you're citing this passage. God has killed unrepentant sinners, and left other unrepentant sinners alive all throughout history.
It's no different from Lk.13:1-5
 
The thing is,

The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, nor shall the children be put to death for the fathers; every man shall be put to death for his own sin. Deu.24:16

In Spirit as our Creator, or because of his birth on earth, Jesus is both a Father and son of man and by his own law, should not have been put to death.
Yes I can agree upon this although Jesus would not have said he is both a Father and a son, but by human law he should not have been put to death either.
 
Yes I can agree upon this although Jesus would not have said he is both a Father and a son, but by human law he should not have been put to death either.
Jesus did ask them why David called the Messiah "Lord."
Jesus took many forms. Look at 1Cor.11:3,

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

People such as JWs' use this as a proof rect that Jesus has a head so he can't be God. But Paul isn't saying Jesus has a head.
Most Christians don't understand Pauls' point on husbands and wives. Why shouldn't men cover their heads, but women should? Because

the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

In other words, men should expose Christs' righteousness (Mt.5:16.) Wives should not expose their husbands to ridicule (see any on wives.)

For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.....Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
vss.8,11

So what Paul? So go back to vs.3, because Paul is saying Jesus had a head, when he was of the woman. Paul was in no way saying that the Son had a head before he came into this world and had one when he left it.
Pauls' sumation is,

For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. vs.12

in other words, men and women are equal in Christ, but Christ alone is God.
 
Jesus did ask them why David called the Messiah "Lord."
Jesus took many forms. Look at 1Cor.11:3,
He didn’t call himself “Father.” “Lord” is not “Father.”
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

People such as JWs' use this as a proof rect that Jesus has a head so he can't be God. But Paul isn't saying Jesus has a head.
Most Christians don't understand Pauls' point on husbands and wives. Why shouldn't men cover their heads, but women should? Because

the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

In other words, men should expose Christs' righteousness (Mt.5:16.) Wives should not expose their husbands to ridicule (see any on wives.)

For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.....Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
vss.8,11
So far so good. I agree.
So what Paul? So go back to vs.3, because Paul is saying Jesus had a head, when he was of the woman. Paul was in no way saying that the Son had a head before he came into this world and had one when he left it.
Pauls' sumation is,
I doubt Paul was describing Jesus’ experience before the nativity.
For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. vs.12

in other words, men and women are equal in Christ, but Christ alone is God.
Ok
 
He didn’t call himself “Father.” “Lord” is not “Father.”
That's ok. God is better anyway, because that's what David meant.
I doubt Paul was describing Jesus’ experience before the nativity.
He referred to it in the text when he said the man wasn't made for the woman, but the woman for the man. He was speaking of Christ and the church (see spouses Eph.5:32.)
It kinda goes without saying that Gods' people don't have 2 husbands.
 
That's ok. God is better anyway, because that's what David meant.

He referred to it in the text when he said the man wasn't made for the woman, but the woman for the man. He was speaking of Christ and the church (see spouses Eph.5:32.)
It kinda goes without saying that Gods' people don't have 2 husbands.
The bride of Christ is a metaphor. Maybe I don’t completely understand what you mean, I admit.
 
I don't know why you're citing this passage. God has killed unrepentant sinners, and left other unrepentant sinners alive all throughout history.
It's no different from Lk.13:1-5

I was answering your question that said --


Now....what happens when God gets fed up with people sinning against him?
 
I was answering your question that said --

Now....what happens when God gets fed up with people sinning against him?
I just told you. Sometimes he takes their lives.

He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy. Pro.29:1

Sometimes he leaves them alive.

I gave her space to repent Rev.2:21

But the point is, our God preached repentance, because he died in no sinners place.
 
Jesus died for my sins.
If you want to believe otherwise, that’s on you.
You know JLB,
After speaking with you a bit, I don't know how you can say something like this.
I never said Jesus didn't die for my sins. I said Jesus died IN PLACE OF nobody.
And I said this because of the scriptures I cited which say, God forbids punishing one person for what another person did. You never commented once on anything I've cited that proves this.

Hating Jesus without cause is sin and he bore those sins and that's how the Bible says Jesus died.

God calls people unjust, who punish the righteous in place of the unrighteous.

I won't insult you by asking if you know what unjust means, or the difference between a good judge and a bad one, because you already know.
I just hope someday you apply what you know is right where scripture is concerned, instead of the nonsense you were indoctrinated with,

What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge? As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel. Eze.18:2-4

The vast majority of "christian" teaching still use this proverb. You're still using it.
 
I think it valuable to understand Jesus as the ransom paid to redeem those who sold themselves into slavery to sin.
So do I Jethro, but only in the sense that he "gave" his life to us while we were still sinnners, not in the sense that he "owed " anyone anything,but because he's the Creator and loves us,

Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine. Job.41:11 (too many to list.)

Brother, you can see the difference between,

God will forgive sinners by killing his Son, (nonsense)

God will forgive sinners for killing his Son...if we're truly repentant (mercy, truth)

God will condemn the unrepentant for sinning against him. (justice.)
 
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