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Windows 10...to upgrade or to not Upgrade...discuss

My laptop (which is running Windows 7) is going to heck, but my brother wanted to try Windows 10.
From what I'm told by others, they say it sounds like our harddrive is about to die. I'm hoping to get a backup of it on an external harddrive before that happens. (First I have to buy one. :|) If I do that, and then replace this harddrive when it dies, will I be able to get everything from the old harddrive onto the new one via the backup, and then upgrade it to Windows 10?
 
questdriven said:
My laptop (which is running Windows 7) is going to heck, but my brother wanted to try Windows 10.
From what I'm told by others, they say it sounds like our harddrive is about to die. I'm hoping to get a backup of it on an external harddrive before that happens. (First I have to buy one. :|) If I do that, and then replace this harddrive when it dies, will I be able to get everything from the old harddrive onto the new one via the backup, and then upgrade it to Windows 10?
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That can be done IF you do your backup correctly, but you may have to pay a professional to install the new drive and transfer the data to be able to make it work. By the time you do all that you are going to have a lot of money invested in an old laptop that probably has other things ready to go wrong with it. You might be better off just waiting for a big box store to put one on sale that either already has Win 10 or has Win 8 and can be upgraded to Win 10.

I had one like that which I bought brand new and used for years. The hard drive finally failed one day and my computer guy was able to get all the data off of it, install a new drive, and transfer everything onto the new drive with a new OS. Cost some money, but less than buying a new one. Then a couple months later the screen got all weird looking to the point I couldn't read it any more. Could have been one of two things, an inverter or the screen itself. Inverter was the cheapest so replaced that. Didn't work, so replaced the screen. Now it works great again... for a while. Then the internal CMOS battery won't hold a charge anymore and the computer loses all it's settings when turned off. More money to fix that. Of course the main battery hasn't been able to hold a charge for a year or so. After a while the electrical connection broke loose inside from years of use and without a working main battery every time it breaks contact everything shuts off. The connector's cheap, but the time it takes to get to it to replace it then put everything back together again isn't cheap. Then the internal power supply goes out. But by now I had more money invested in it than a new one would have cost, and once again I don't have a working laptop! I would have been far better off financially and frustration wise to have just bought a new one in the first place!
 
Darn. Byebye laptop then. There are SO many other places the money needs to go than something like that.
 
Laptop is dead now, didn't even get the chance to back anything up.

I have a desktop computer, but have to share it with a gaming teenager who thinks he needs it like 12 hours a day. There is another desktop computer, but it's been out of commission for over a year. I guess we should try to get that fixed. It has Photoshop on it, so that would be good, actually. (I've been having to use GIMP since the activation code on the Photoshop CD was missing.)

I'd like to get a new laptop, but I don't have a proper job right now so that's pretty much a pipe dream.
 
questdriven said:
Laptop is dead now, didn't even get the chance to back anything up.

I have a desktop computer, but have to share it with a gaming teenager who thinks he needs it like 12 hours a day. There is another desktop computer, but it's been out of commission for over a year. I guess we should try to get that fixed. It has Photoshop on it, so that would be good, actually. (I've been having to use GIMP since the activation code on the Photoshop CD was missing.)

I'd like to get a new laptop, but I don't have a proper job right now so that's pretty much a pipe dream.
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You may want to invest in an external enclosure for the hard drive, just to check if it truly is dead. If it is not, then you can plug it into any other computer like an external drive and retrieve what you want off of it.
 
Knotical said:
You may want to invest in an external enclosure for the hard drive, just to check if it truly is dead. If it is not, then you can plug it into any other computer like an external drive and retrieve what you want off of it.
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Cool. Where should I look for one? (At the store, online? What to look for to make sure it's a good one?) What would be the typical price range?

In any case, since it's no longer a race against time, I think I'm going to replace my sketchbook first.
 
questdriven said:
Cool. Where should I look for one? (At the store, online? What to look for to make sure it's a good one?) What would be the typical price range?

In any case, since it's no longer a race against time, I think I'm going to replace my sketchbook first.
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You can find them at either newegg.com, or tigerdirect.com. Just be sure to get one that fits your hard drive, and has the right connectors. Look for the ratings and positive reviews. If this is for a laptop the connectors may either be IDE or SATA. If you are unsure of what you have just snap a pic and post it here, we will be able to tell you pretty quickly which one you have.
 
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I went ahead and upgraded today to Windows 10 from Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, and was greatly disappointed. Of course I'm not aware of some of its new functions I probably wouldn't use anyhow, but the complete presentation had to change once again. I would probably have the Windows 2003 screen if left alone, and especially XP if supported.

Using Windows 10 I attempted several things to locate files it wouldn't bring up on search, there was no start button, and just everything seemed out of place, and I no longer have the patience to relearn what little I know.

Was there a big decision needed? Not at all; science must expand, but I don't have to, and until weather reports can define the exact address to be wiped out by a tornado they're all full of conflicting winds designed to make money off me in some manner. I DUMPED THAT crazy critter, but with that I was assured I could later take advantage of their offer (IF I WENT NUTS???).
 
We have a Gateway laptop at home running 8.1, and it still hasn't received the update. I've done the few that were pending, but not yet. When I click on the icon in the system tray, it still says I'll be notified when it's made available for my computer. I imagine if I contacted Microsoft, they'd say it's a Gateway problem, and Gateway would put it on Microsoft.

Is anyone else still waiting?
 
Mike said:
We have a Gateway laptop at home running 8.1, and it still hasn't received the update. I've done the few that were pending, but not yet. When I click on the icon in the system tray, it still says I'll be notified when it's made available for my computer. I imagine if I contacted Microsoft, they'd say it's a Gateway problem, and Gateway would put it on Microsoft.

Is anyone else still waiting?
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Just use this link: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 that Brother Mike provided in an earlier post.
 
questdriven said:
Laptop is dead now, didn't even get the chance to back anything up.

I have a desktop computer, but have to share it with a gaming teenager who thinks he needs it like 12 hours a day. There is another desktop computer, but it's been out of commission for over a year. I guess we should try to get that fixed. It has Photoshop on it, so that would be good, actually. (I've been having to use GIMP since the activation code on the Photoshop CD was missing.)

I'd like to get a new laptop, but I don't have a proper job right now so that's pretty much a pipe dream.
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If you know how, remove the HDD and put it in the Freezer over night. Have the spar drive ready, with an external power supply and a USB Transfer rig (10 to 12 dollars on Ebay fro new) and do not diddle. Boot it with a Linux system disk in the DVD drive and transfer the entire disk, then place it in the laptop and boot it normally.

The frozen hard drive has saved many a 500 dollar 0or more bil to have the transfer done, it is always worth a try.
 
I've been trying to install the upgrade on our laptop, currently running Windows 7 Starter but have been unsuccessful. It keeps getting locked up at about 85% complete. I've tried restarting it multiple times. I verified all updates have been installed to my current OS. It is running at home right now for the last time. If it fails again, I will scrap the idea and hide the update from Windows Update.

If anyone has any ideas that may be worth trying, I'm all ears.
 
WIP said:
I've been trying to install the upgrade on our laptop, currently running Windows 7 Starter but have been unsuccessful. It keeps getting locked up at about 85% complete. I've tried restarting it multiple times. I verified all updates have been installed to my current OS. It is running at home right now for the last time. If it fails again, I will scrap the idea and hide the update from Windows Update.

If anyone has any ideas that may be worth trying, I'm all ears.
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Save critical data on other storage, clean wipe HD, install.
 
WIP said:
I've been trying to install the upgrade on our laptop, currently running Windows 7 Starter but have been unsuccessful. It keeps getting locked up at about 85% complete. I've tried restarting it multiple times. I verified all updates have been installed to my current OS. It is running at home right now for the last time. If it fails again, I will scrap the idea and hide the update from Windows Update.

If anyone has any ideas that may be worth trying, I'm all ears.
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Did you try the Windows Update Readiness Tool? It is designed to fix files that can prevent upgrading.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=20858

After I ran it on my machine, the update went smoothly.
 
Eugene said:
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I went ahead and upgraded today to Windows 10 from Windows 7 Pro 64 bit, and was greatly disappointed. Of course I'm not aware of some of its new functions I probably wouldn't use anyhow, but the complete presentation had to change once again. I would probably have the Windows 2003 screen if left alone, and especially XP if supported.

Using Windows 10 I attempted several things to locate files it wouldn't bring up on search, there was no start button, and just everything seemed out of place, and I no longer have the patience to relearn what little I know.

Was there a big decision needed? Not at all; science must expand, but I don't have to, and until weather reports can define the exact address to be wiped out by a tornado they're all full of conflicting winds designed to make money off me in some manner. I DUMPED THAT crazy critter, but with that I was assured I could later take advantage of their offer (IF I WENT NUTS???).
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This is the kind of stuff I was worried about. For me personally, I think I've made up my mind that there isn't any benefit to it that is worth the potential hassles and problems that come with it.
 
WIP said:
I've been trying to install the upgrade on our laptop, currently running Windows 7 Starter but have been unsuccessful. It keeps getting locked up at about 85% complete. I've tried restarting it multiple times. I verified all updates have been installed to my current OS. It is running at home right now for the last time. If it fails again, I will scrap the idea and hide the update from Windows Update.

If anyone has any ideas that may be worth trying, I'm all ears.
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How much space do you have?
Are you using the update tool Michael Posted?
Is it giving an error, or in you opinion it's locking up. It took Windows 10 5 hours to install on my laptop, and seemed to hang in places for a long time, but I know a Laptop is not that powerful to write and move all the files with limited memory and CPU speed.
 
I have plenty of space >120GB.
Have not tried the update tool...yet. Might give it a try this weekend.
No error. CPU goes dead, screen stuck on 85% complete. I've left it overnight that way with no change in the morning.
I do not want to do a complete swipe and install because I don't want to lose existing loaded applications. If that is my only course, I'll just revert back to Windows 7 and call it good.
 
WIP said:
I've been trying to install the upgrade on our laptop, currently running Windows 7 Starter but have been unsuccessful. It keeps getting locked up at about 85% complete. I've tried restarting it multiple times. I verified all updates have been installed to my current OS. It is running at home right now for the last time. If it fails again, I will scrap the idea and hide the update from Windows Update.

If anyone has any ideas that may be worth trying, I'm all ears.
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I know this is a stupid question but did you do the compatability test with Micro Soft's Compatability software? Not all hardware will work.
 
WIP said:
I have plenty of space >120GB.
Have not tried the update tool...yet. Might give it a try this weekend.
No error. CPU goes dead, screen stuck on 85% complete. I've left it overnight that way with no change in the morning.
I do not want to do a complete swipe and install because I don't want to lose existing loaded applications. If that is my only course, I'll just revert back to Windows 7 and call it good.
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Some users reported up to 24 hours for install. Make sure you have no external devices connected, make sure windows 7 has all it's updates before starting. At around 80-95% windows does a massive backup of all your files, and depending on your drive speed, Memory, Cpu, this process can take a very long time.

Keep us posted, but the update tool fixes it for most people.
 
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