Yahwah's name was in the original New Testament scriptures

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The Didache is a second century CATHOLIC document.

As I stated, it's possibly from the first century, as early as AD 50. It's only catholic in the sense that it is of the universal Church.

Romans 8:9
You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.

I'm not sure why you quoted all those verses when they very much agree with the doctrine of the Trinity. To use them as you do is to fallaciously beg the question. This verse in particular is telling, since you avoided emphasizing of "the Spirit of Christ":

Rom 8:9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.

Note what Paul first states positively to believers--that if "the Spirit of God dwells in" them, they are "in the Spirit." However, he then states the same thing negatively--"Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ," that is, if the Spirit of Christ does not dwell in them, then they do "not belong to him." Paul is unequivocally stating that "the Spirit," "the Spirit of God," and "the Spirit of Christ" are all one and the same.

This is how Peter refers to the Holy Spirit in the OT:

1Pe 1:11 inquiring what person or time the Spirit of Christ in them was indicating when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glories.

Also here:

Act 16:6 And they went through the region of Phrygia and Galatia, having been forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak the word in Asia.
Act 16:7 And when they had come up to Mysia, they attempted to go into Bithynia, but the Spirit of Jesus did not allow them.

Php 1:19 for I know that through your prayers and the help of the Spirit of Jesus Christ this will turn out for my deliverance,

And:

Gal 4:6 And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”

In addition to Rom 8:9, compare Gal 4:6 with:

Joh 14:17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

(All ESV.)

It is the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God and Spirit of Christ and Spirit of his Son, who indwells all believers. It cannot be said, then, the Holy Spirit is a title for the Father.

 

[CherubRam]

As I stated, it's possibly from the first century, as early as AD 50. It's only catholic in the sense that it is of the universal Church.


I'm not sure why you quoted all those verses when they very much agree with the doctrine of the Trinity. To use them as you do is to fallaciously beg the question. This verse in particular is telling, since you avoided emphasizing of "the Spirit of Christ":

Rom 8:9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.

Note what Paul first states positively to believers--that if "the Spirit of God dwells in" them, they are "in the Spirit." However, he then states the same thing negatively--"Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ," that is, if the Spirit of Christ does not dwell in them, then they do "not belong to him." Paul is unequivocally stating that "the Spirit," "the Spirit of God," and "the Spirit of Christ" are all one and the same.

This is how Peter refers to the Holy Spirit in the OT:

1Pe 1:11 inquiring what person or time the Spirit of Christ in them was indicating when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glories.

Also here:

Act 16:6 And they went through the region of Phrygia and Galatia, having been forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak the word in Asia.
Act 16:7 And when they had come up to Mysia, they attempted to go into Bithynia, but the Spirit of Jesus did not allow them.

Php 1:19 for I know that through your prayers and the help of the Spirit of Jesus Christ this will turn out for my deliverance,

And:

Gal 4:6 And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”

In addition to Rom 8:9, compare Gal 4:6 with:

Joh 14:17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

(All ESV.)

It is the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God and Spirit of Christ and Spirit of his Son, who indwells all believers. It cannot be said, then, the Holy Spirit is a title for the Father.

Yahwah is a Holy Spirit. There is no third person. That is a doctrine of man. Yahwah comes and communes with His creation.

 

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Yahwah is a Holy Spirit. There is no third person. That is a doctrine of man. Yahwah comes and communes with His creation.

Yet, you have not shown that there is no third person or that the Trinity is a doctrine of man. Yahweh is spirit and he is holy and the Holy Spirit is Yahweh, but Yahweh is not the Holy Spirit.

 

[JLB]

"Holy Spirit" is a title for our Heavenly Father, Yahwah.

Here is the oldest recorded document of Matthew 28:19.

"The Demonstratio Evangelica" by Eusebius:
Eusebius of Caesarea. 265 ? AD.– 337 ? AD.

Eusebius was the Church historian and Bishop of Caesarea. On page 152 Eusebius quotes the early book of Matthew that he had in his library in Caesarea. Eusebius informs us of Yahshua's actual words to his disciples in the original text of Matthew 28:19.

Quote: "With one word and voice He said to His disciples: "Go, and make disciples of all nations in My Name, teaching them to observe all...

And again Eusebius for example, in Book III of his History, Chapter 5, Section 2, which is about the Jewish persecution of early Christians, we read:

"But the rest of the disciples, who had been incessantly plotted against with a view to their destruction, and had been driven out of the land of Judea, went to all nations to preach the good news, relying upon the power of Christ, who had said to them, "Go ye and make disciples of all the nations in my name."


And again, in his Oration in Praise of Emperor Constantine, Chapter 16, Section 8, we read:

"What king or prince in any age of the world, what philosopher, legislator or prophet, in civilized or barbarous lands, has attained so great a height of excellence, I say not after death, but while living still, and full of mighty power, as to fill the ears and tongues of all mankind with the praises of his name?
Surely none save our only Savior has done this, when, after his victory over death, he spoke these words to his followers, and fulfilled it by that event, saying to them, "Go ye and make disciples of all nations in my name."

There is not a single occurrence of the disciples baptizing anyone using the Trinitarian formula. All of the scripture in the New Testament shows that people were baptized into the name of Yahshua, even after Pentecost.

And when people in church leadership received the Holy Spirit, it was without the Trinitarian formula as in Acts 8:17.
Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:18-19

• baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

Is the Father;

God?
Man?
Angel?
Other?

Is the Son;

God?
Man?
Angel?
Other?



Is the Holy Spirit;

God?
Man?
Angel?
Other?

 

[JLB]

All of the Trinity proof text are corrupted scriptures.

John 5:41 “I do not accept glory from human beings, 42 but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. 43 I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. 44 How can you believe since you accept glory from one another but do not seek the glory that comes from the only God.

And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:18-19

• baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

Is the Father;

God?
Man?
Angel?
Other?

Is the Son;

God?
Man?
Angel?
Other?



Is the Holy Spirit;

God?
Man?
Angel?
Other?

 

[CherubRam]

And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:18-19

• baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

Is the Father;

God?
Man?
Angel?
Other?

Is the Son;

God?
Man?
Angel?
Other?



Is the Holy Spirit;

God?
Man?
Angel?
Other?

That is a contradiction of scriptures.
Isaiah 42:8
“I am (the Lord / Yahwah;) that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.

Isaiah 48:11
For my own sake, for my own sake, I do this. How can I let myself be defamed? I will not yield my glory to another.

 

[JLB]

That is a contradiction of scriptures.
Isaiah 42:8
“I am (the Lord / Yahwah;) that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.

That is the Lord Jesus Christ speaking through the mouth of Isaiah.

Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 1 Peter 1:10-11

 

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That is the Lord Jesus Christ speaking through the mouth of Isaiah.

my goodness.

I am speechless.

 

[CherubRam]

That is the Lord Jesus Christ speaking through the mouth of Isaiah.

Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 1 Peter 1:10-11

Are you blind?

Isaiah 42:8
“I am (the Lord / Yahwah;) that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.

 

[JLB]

Are you blind?

Isaiah 42:8
“I am (the Lord / Yahwah;) that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.

That is Jesus Christ speak through the mouth of the prophet Isaiah.


Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 1 Peter 1:10-11


The Spirit of the LORD is the Spirit of Christ that spoke through the Old Testament prophets.


Example:


The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: Zechariah 12:1


The Son, Jesus Christ is the LORD that stretched out the heavens and laid the foundation of the earth.


But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And:
“You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands. Hebrews 1:8-10






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[CherubRam]

That is Jesus Christ speak through the mouth of the prophet Isaiah.


Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 1 Peter 1:10-11


The Spirit of the LORD is the Spirit of Christ that spoke through the Old Testament prophets.


Example:


The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: Zechariah 12:1


The Son, Jesus Christ is the LORD that stretched out the heavens and laid the foundation of the earth.


But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And:
“You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands. Hebrews 1:8-10






JLB

Quote: "The Spirit of (the LORD / Yahwah) is the Spirit of Christ that spoke through the Old Testament prophets."

Yahwah spoke through Yahshua. That is why he is called "The Word of God."


Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You

 

[JLB]

Quote: "The Spirit of (the LORD / Yahwah) is the Spirit of Christ that spoke through the Old Testament prophets."

Yahwah spoke through Yahshua. That is why he is called "The Word of God."


Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You

The Spirit of the LORD is the Spirit of Christ.

 

[CherubRam]

The Spirit of the LORD is the Spirit of Christ.

No, they are separate beings. Even the Trinity doctrine says that.

 

[CherubRam]

That is Jesus Christ speak through the mouth of the prophet Isaiah.


Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. 1 Peter 1:10-11


The Spirit of the LORD is the Spirit of Christ that spoke through the Old Testament prophets.


Example:


The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: Zechariah 12:1


The Son, Jesus Christ is the LORD that stretched out the heavens and laid the foundation of the earth.


But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And:
“You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands. Hebrews 1:8-10






JLB

Your God.

Psalm 45.
6 Your throne, (O God / God of the living ones,) will last forever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
7 You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
therefore (God / God of the living ones,) your (God / God of the living ones,) has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.



Not correct
Hebrews 1:8.
But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

Hebrews 1:8.
It should read.
your (God / God of the living ones,) has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.

I suspect someone is putting words in Paul’s mouth.

 

[JLB]

Your God.

Psalm 45.
6 Your throne, (O God / God of the living ones,) will last forever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
7 You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
therefore (God / God of the living ones,) your (God / God of the living ones,) has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.



Not correct
Hebrews 1:8.
But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

Hebrews 1:8.
It should read.
your (God / God of the living ones,) has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.

I suspect someone is putting words in Paul’s mouth.

The Son stretched out the heavens and laid the foundation of the earth. That is the work of YHWH the LORD God.


But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And:
“You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
Hebrews 1:8-10


The Son, Jesus Christ spoke through the mouth of the prophets as YHWH; the LORD God.


The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: Zechariah 12:1



These scriptures refer to the Son, Jesus Christ who is identified as YHWH the LORD God.





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[CherubRam]

Jesus is the Name the Godhead has chosen to represent them.

For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;
Colossians 2:9

Jesus is YHWH; The LORD God. The Creator of heaven and earth.



But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And:
“You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
Hebrews 2:8-10


Whenever we see the LORD in the Old Testament it refers to Jesus Christ the Son.







JLB

The term "Godhead" is an English variant of the word "godhood" and was first introduced by John Wycliffe (1330-1384 C.E.) in English Bible versions as godhede. The word "Godhead" is a interpretation of three different Greek words. ( Theion, TheiotEs and TheotEtos )

Acts 17:29
Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead ( Theion = Divine Eternal ) is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; ( TheiotEs = Divine Nature ) so that they are without excuse:

Colossians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead ( TheotEtos = Divine Nature Dwelling ) bodily.

To translate three different Greek words as one word is deviously incorrect. This is not unlike having three different names for one street on a map (with the real name hidden), so that when a person used it, he wound up lost. Likewise of those who read Bibles with "Godhead" in it, thereby misleading a person that the trinity is "real".

Hence, the need for an accurate Bible, one that renders the Hebrew and Greek words and phrases with a high degree of precision, just as a map that can be counted on to provide exact information. Unfortunately, many Bibles follow the lead of the King James Bible, or is otherwise biased, because the trinity, along with a host of other religious teachings that are not true, that has such a strangle hold on so many.

 

[BB1956]

Do you ever use scripture?

And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:18-20[/QUOTE\]

This scripture that is quoted shows that Jesus was given this authority. Nowhere in scripture does it say the True God YHWH is given his authority. The true God YHWH has always had all authority in heaven and on earth. So the fact that the scripture you quoted shows that Jesus was given his authority, I ask you, who gave him that authority?

 

[BB1956]

The Son stretched out the heavens and laid the foundation of the earth. That is the work of YHWH the LORD God.


But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And:
“You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
Hebrews 1:8-10


The Son, Jesus Christ spoke through the mouth of the prophets as YHWH; the LORD God.


The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him: Zechariah 12:1



These scriptures refer to the Son, Jesus Christ who is identified as YHWH the LORD God.





JLB

I disagree what you say here. I choose to keep the scriptures in context. Hebrews 1:9 reads, "God, your God, anointed you." This scripture makes it clear that the one addressed in verse eight is not God, but one who worships God and is anointed by him.
Also Hebrews 1:8, 9 is a quotation from Psalms 45:6, 7, which was originally addressed to a human king of Israel. I don't think the writer of Psalm 45:6,7 thought this human king was Almighty God YHWH.
Scholar B.F. Westcott said: "It is scarcely possible that Elohim(God) in the original can be addressed to the king....This on the whole it seems best to adopt in the first clause the rendering: God is Thy throne(or Thy throne is God), that is 'Thy kingdom is founded upon God."'
Therefore a number of translations of the Bible, render Hebrews 1:8 as, "God is your throne." (See An American Translation, Moffatt, in the marginal reading in American Standard Version, Revised Standard Version and The New English Bible). It's clear that the "Son," Jesus Christ, has a God who is higher than he is.

 

[BB1956]

Spirit of God

Genesis 1:2
Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

Genesis 41:38
So Pharaoh asked them, “Can we find anyone like this man, one in whom is the spirit of God?”

Exodus 31:3
and I have filled him with the Spirit of God, with wisdom, with understanding, with knowledge and with all kinds of skills—

Exodus 35:31
and he has filled him with the Spirit of God, with wisdom, with understanding, with knowledge and with all kinds of skills—

Numbers 24:2
When Balaam looked out and saw Israel encamped tribe by tribe, the Spirit of God came on him

1 Samuel 10:10
When he and his servant arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came powerfully upon him, and he joined in their prophesying.

1 Samuel 11:6
When Saul heard their words, the Spirit of God came powerfully upon him, and he burned with anger.

1 Samuel 19:20
so he sent men to capture him. But when they saw a group of prophets prophesying, with Samuel standing there as their leader, the Spirit of God came on Saul’s men, and they also prophesied.

1 Samuel 19:23
So Saul went to Naioth at Ramah. But the Spirit of God came even on him, and he walked along prophesying until he came to Naioth.

2 Chronicles 15:1
The Spirit of God came on Azariah son of Oded.

2 Chronicles 24:20
Then the Spirit of God came on Zechariah son of Jehoiada the priest. He stood before the people and said, “This is what God says: ‘Why do you disobey the Lord’s commands? You will not prosper. Because you have forsaken the Lord, he has forsaken you.’”

Job 33:4
The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life.

Psalm 106:33
for they rebelled against the Spirit of God, and rash words came from Moses’ lips.

Ezekiel 11:24
The Spirit lifted me up and brought me to the exiles in Babylonia in the vision given by the Spirit of God. Then the vision I had seen went up from me,

Matthew 3:16
As soon as Yahshua was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him.

Matthew 12:28
But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

Romans 8:9
You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.

Romans 8:14
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.

Romans 15:19
by the power of signs and wonders, through the power of the Spirit of God. So from Jerusalem all the way around to Illyricum, I have fully proclaimed the gospel of Christ.

1 Corinthians 2:11
For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 2:14
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

1 Corinthians 7:40
In my judgment, she is happier if she stays as she is—and I think that I too have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Yahshua be cursed,” and no one can say, “Yahshua is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 4:30
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

1 John 4:2
This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Yahshua the Christ has come in the flesh is from God,

Despite the assertion of some that Jesus Hebrew name should be spelled "Yahshua," I don't believe there is any evidence for this name in any known ancient Hebrew or Aramaic sources.
In the Judeo-Greek language of the New Testament, “Jesus” is written as Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous).

 

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The true God YHWH has always had all authority in heaven and on earth.

Jesus Christ is YHWH; the Lord God.

Jesus Christ is the Son of God the Father.

Every Son is under the authority of their Father.

The Son created the heavens and the earth, according to the will of God the Father.


But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And: “You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands. Hebrews 1:8-10


For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. Colossians 1:16



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