Your Opinion- worst false doctrine

[happyjoy]

I was thinking on this today, the thing is about false doctrines is yes they are false and that is bad, but to believe and love a false doctrine means not just that you dont believe the truth in that area- but that you HATE the truth in that area. that is scary stuff- to hate the truth and love a lie.

Exactly! How does one know the truth? We are humans. We are just dumb animals. God doesn't expect us to know the truth. Jesus pointed the truth to some people 2000 years ago. The message was so powerful that I can still hear it repeated today. Love your neighbor, and do unto others. Yeah I get the message, but I'm not so good at it. No one else is either. If one wants me to believe I am going to burn in eternal suffering, because I haven't got a clue what the actual truth is other than I think everyone has it wrong? Well you better prove it.

 

[jasoncran]

the lord wants us to know him. and he reveals it to us.

some of what you have said i used to think but in due season i was humbled and let the lord show me
you may think me whacked when i say this

i remember hearing a voice in my head asking me this
" jason, we are you going to start living for me?" for a week straight at 7 am clock work. finally i gave in. and gave my heart to him.
i knew it was god. i even told him that i wasn't good enough and that i didnt want fail.
he told me just try and repent.

 

[freeway]

Truth, is what were soon to face. unless someone comes to take our place...........................Jesus

I think that is from a third day song?

 

[GodspromisesRyes]

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[John]

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Left Bracket?

 

[freeway]

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Left Bracket?

Godspromise, I have to disagree with that statement.... all I can say is.........]........ :D

 

[tim-from-pa]

I would like to know what everyone's opinion is on what the worst false " christian" doctrine is.

I dunno. I guess you could start with me. I believe some of the stuff that is mentioned here that mainline does not. I also have an elaborate doctrine about Israel.

I've come across some 'good' Christians, good holy roller hell-fire types that if they could, would punch me in the face thru their computer screens; I can just sense the hated in them for what I believe (I don't know what the threat is). I've even been banned on some forums for answering people what I thought because it did not agree with the moderators' theology and am quickly deemed a "troll". In all fairness, this place is not bad at all. Once in a blue moon they remove a post of mine, but I'll forgive that. :D Many other Christian forums are worse, so remember that when you complain about this one.

Here is a youtube link for those who believe in eternal hell fire for your listening enjoyment. I trust you are not offended because that's what is being crammed down the throats of unbelievers so that they get "saved". (Or, as I call it, "faith" from fear). But I speak tongue-in-cheek of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-iqDeIgGKM

(those researchers look soooooo serious after hearing that. :D )

 

[GodspromisesRyes]

lol my [ was because i typed a whole post to happy and then timed out and it didnt post and i had to go back and edit and when it did that is what it posted lol so i change my vote from [ to ] for the sake of unity

 

[Nick]

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Yes, that is a pretty bad false doctrine. The way I usually combat people who think that is with a ]. Works every time. :D :P

 

[jasoncran]

this will stir up the pot allitle and thanks to nick the moderator for this revalation.

women pastors. while this isnt the worst heresy , and i used to be under one.

i dont think that scriptures supports this at all.

men are to lead. women are equal in salavation but not in serveanthood.

if you look at the family and what it is and how it represents the trinity(god,man and woman) and also that it is the basis of all functional society. men are to lead the home. and i think that is what paul was alluding to in timothy. God wants men to lead the church as representives of christ.

add i will add this lie of the devil. God is a female. that is taught somewhere by a church near you. i know of one that does this.

 

[Nick]

this will stir up the pot allitle and thanks to nick the moderator for this revalation.

Well my pleasure. As long as I didn't stir the pot (I assume you're talking about the rest of your post, which would be correct :D). And if I'm meant to feel guilty for something......I don't. So there. :D :P And us moderators are FULL of wisdome, of course. ;)

women pastors. while this isnt the worst heresy , and i used to be under one.

i dont think that scriptures supports this at all.

men are to lead. women are equal in salavation but not in serveanthood.

if you look at the family and what it is and how it represents the trinity(god,man and woman) and also that it is the basis of all functional society. men are to lead the home. and i think that is what paul was alluding to in timothy. God wants men to lead the church as representives of christ.

add i will add this lie of the devil. God is a female. that is taught somewhere by a church near you. i know of one that does this.

Aha! This would have to have come up eventaully.
I agree Jason, men are called to lead. I don't have a problem with women pastors if they teach women and children, but I believe the Bible teaches that women pastors are not to teach men. IMO the world has gone too far in this feminist thing, and that's where it becomes a problem, because I can see this seeping into the church. Men and women have different roles.

 

[jasoncran]

no you are not but a few will disagree, namely happyjoy. as you know i used to believe in female pastors.

that church still has a lot of good do it. to me its not salvinic thing but a doctrinal issue that needs to be corrected.

men and women are equal but different.
we dont see the feminazis rushing and pushing men to carry children, though that wouldnt suprise me with the reinvention of marriage these days.

 

[Mysteryman]

this will stir up the pot allitle and thanks to nick the moderator for this revalation.

Well my pleasure. As long as I didn't stir the pot (I assume you're talking about the rest of your post, which would be correct :D). And if I'm meant to feel guilty for something......I don't. So there. :D :P And us moderators are FULL of wisdome, of course. ;)

women pastors. while this isnt the worst heresy , and i used to be under one.

i dont think that scriptures supports this at all.

men are to lead. women are equal in salavation but not in serveanthood.

if you look at the family and what it is and how it represents the trinity(god,man and woman) and also that it is the basis of all functional society. men are to lead the home. and i think that is what paul was alluding to in timothy. God wants men to lead the church as representives of christ.

add i will add this lie of the devil. God is a female. that is taught somewhere by a church near you. i know of one that does this.

Aha! This would have to have come up eventaully.
I agree Jason, men are called to lead. I don't have a problem with women pastors if they teach women and children, but I believe the Bible teaches that women pastors are not to teach men. IMO the world has gone too far in this feminist thing, and that's where it becomes a problem, because I can see this seeping into the church. Men and women have different roles.

Hi

Is it permitted in this thread to agree here ?

 

[Nick]

this will stir up the pot allitle and thanks to nick the moderator for this revalation.

Well my pleasure. As long as I didn't stir the pot (I assume you're talking about the rest of your post, which would be correct :D). And if I'm meant to feel guilty for something......I don't. So there. :D :P And us moderators are FULL of wisdome, of course. ;)

women pastors. while this isnt the worst heresy , and i used to be under one.

i dont think that scriptures supports this at all.

men are to lead. women are equal in salavation but not in serveanthood.

if you look at the family and what it is and how it represents the trinity(god,man and woman) and also that it is the basis of all functional society. men are to lead the home. and i think that is what paul was alluding to in timothy. God wants men to lead the church as representives of christ.

add i will add this lie of the devil. God is a female. that is taught somewhere by a church near you. i know of one that does this.

Aha! This would have to have come up eventaully.
I agree Jason, men are called to lead. I don't have a problem with women pastors if they teach women and children, but I believe the Bible teaches that women pastors are not to teach men. IMO the world has gone too far in this feminist thing, and that's where it becomes a problem, because I can see this seeping into the church. Men and women have different roles.

Hi

Is it permitted in this thread to agree here ?

Hi MM!

Yes, I believe so.

 

[happyjoy]

no you are not but a few will disagree, namely happyjoy. as you know i used to believe in female pastors.

that church still has a lot of good do it. to me its not salvinic thing but a doctrinal issue that needs to be corrected.

men and women are equal but different.
we dont see the feminazis rushing and pushing men to carry children, though that wouldnt suprise me with the reinvention of marriage these days.

Separate but equal huh. I have heard that philosophy before. Women are not less than men. Women are as smart as men, and as insightful as men.

Reinvention of marriage? Feminazi? Oh I guess women, in your opinion, are just good for being barefoot and pregnant, serving the males in the family while they teach their daughters to service men.

Women do have purpose outside the desires of men. We aren't here as cooks, maids, concubines, or beards.

 

[Mysteryman]

no you are not but a few will disagree, namely happyjoy. as you know i used to believe in female pastors.

that church still has a lot of good do it. to me its not salvinic thing but a doctrinal issue that needs to be corrected.

men and women are equal but different.
we dont see the feminazis rushing and pushing men to carry children, though that wouldnt suprise me with the reinvention of marriage these days.

Separate but equal huh. I have heard that philosophy before. Women are not less than men. Women are as smart as men, and as insightful as men.

Reinvention of marriage? Feminazi? Oh I guess women, in your opinion, are just good for being barefoot and pregnant, serving the males in the family while they teach their daughters to service men.

Women do have purpose outside the desires of men. We aren't here as cooks, maids, concubines, or beards.

The last I knew, unless God has changed everything, that only women can get pregnant. Men love to cook, and some even like to clean , well maybe - :D

The last I knew, a concubine was a damsel in the OT, and was considered a half wife.

Some concubines were just singers and not half wives. Sort of like entertainers for their masters.

I would think, that the way in which God made and created everything. Should not be changed.

Men becoming pregnant, and the woman being the head of the man, and men keep silent in the church. What is this world coming too ? :rolling

 

[needtotalk]

God is love, and the worst false doctrine in my opinion is that He doesn't love you like an Abba father. That once you're a child of God, God still kindles His anger toward you at times, or all the time...

God lovingly disciplines, but His wrath doesn't abide on the believer anymore. Love thru Christ does!

 

[Cheyenne K]

this will stir up the pot allitle and thanks to nick the moderator for this revalation.

women pastors. while this isnt the worst heresy , and i used to be under one.

i dont think that scriptures supports this at all.

men are to lead. women are equal in salavation but not in serveanthood.

if you look at the family and what it is and how it represents the trinity(god,man and woman) and also that it is the basis of all functional society. men are to lead the home. and i think that is what paul was alluding to in timothy. God wants men to lead the church as representives of christ.

add i will add this lie of the devil. God is a female. that is taught somewhere by a church near you. i know of one that does this.

I have to agree with you here. Women, while may have their place in the Church, are not really meant to be pastors. And it seems to me that churches with women pastors are far more accepting to sin. My family knows a transsexual who went to a church with a female pastor, who preached complete acceptance and was a lesbian herself. I notice this prominence in other churches with female pastors as well. However, that may be besides the point here, though it has made me a little wary of said churches.
And I have heard of churches teaching that God may be female. It seems more like Paganism than it does Christianity in my opinion, yet people from these churches consider themselves Christians. It’s really mind-boggling.


Personally though, I have a large disliking for those who believe that God is all loving of everything, including sin. This, to me, has led to a lot more liberal Christian churches that go against the basic teachings of the Bible. It’s an excuse. While God may love everyone, the same cannot be said for their sin. Yet, many people use this to justify what they do in sin.
Next would be those who don’t believe in certain basic principles of the Bible, or deny it‘s truth, but still call themselves Christian. For instance, that Jesus did not literally die on the cross, nor was he resurrected.

I don’t know if these two would apply, seeing as they really go against Christian teachings, but I see many “Christians†claiming these as their views and it bothers me quite a bit.

 

[jasoncran]

i will add this statement from a friend of mine and agnostic, a woman

she wishes it was in the 60's earlier before the sexual revolution. why? because woman are treated better then.
Happyjoy, when you can outlift all men, and no woman will ask a man for help. then you have your equality, but that will only occur not by natural selection, chiefly but by artificial means.

please you Know little of what the true biblical roles are. as i never mentioned jobs, only did i say in spiritual matters.

contrary to what lies some have been pushed men and women are different. genders are there. by birth without any defects men are men and women are women.

woman are better at certain things then men and men better at certain things.then woman.
that is a general statement.

that was the point, a woman is mother by nature when she has child and cares for it. a man is a dad not a mom to that child.

a man is when he protects his wife from danger, and works hard labor.

shall i give a basic anatomy class on this. you can say all you want on women right to equal to everything but that doesnt change the fact that men are men and woman are women.

 

[GodspromisesRyes]

:amen :yes


AMEN to jason on the woman issues and everyone who agreed with him!


As far as "being barefoot and pregnant, serving the males in the family while they teach their daughters to service men. "

These are absolutely beyond any doubt, amazing, terrific, wonderful. It is very sad when women have been taught to hate womanhood and the blessed ways we are meant to be helpmeets.

If you truly are about LOVE, then you still stop worrying about your SELF and not having to put your SELF out for others, for the men in your life- and you will be overjoyed to give of yourself in the ways only a woman, a wife, a mother, a sister can.