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    The Great -You have to take it- debate

    Ok, here is a reality check for that story with modern faith. What if you friend told you that if you did not use the car or believe that he left the car their then something terrible would happen to you for all of eternity? That is the case today for a lot of "believers". They believe out of...
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    Facts about the book of James

    I have a question: If the messiah did return and they started preaching something contradictory to what the orthodox faith believes, would you believe him or cast him out and say he was wrong? Really think about this and search your feelings about it. If someone was inspired by god to say or...
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    Help Me Answer These Questions.

    Thanks, Elvis Yes, there are people out there who input logic into religion and still consider themselves christian even though others don't. You don't need the bible to be a christian. You only need your faith.
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    Facts about the book of James

    I agree with you. There are many parts of the bible that are inauthentic. James is one of those books that I believe the was put in wrongly. They should have chosen Thomas or even Phillip for that chapter. The bible is a compilation of books. It was not put together in a divine setting. I...
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    Help Me Answer These Questions.

    As far as my understanding of the "devil" in the OT it is more on a level of parables and termonology rather than literal assumption. When they speak of the work of satan or "saw-tawn" they are speaking solely in terms of opposition to their cause and the works of gentiles. The devil actually...
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    The Official King of the Hill Thread

    Then I distract Handy with a winning season at FSU and a BCS championship. While he is dstracted I throw a ticket to a Boise State home game in front of him and while he is picking it up i usurp the throne and order all colors be garnet and gold and the colors blue, orange, and green are to be...
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    Other Books?

    I haven't read the entire thread, but were the gnostic gospels mentioned? Especially the gospel of Thomas? It is widely excepted that it is the codex for Mark. I do believe that the Bible is not the complete work of scriptures that originally influenced early christian ideology because of...
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    Friday, the 13th

    Pard, I like you. You know your stuff.
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    what is the true name of Jesus?

    That is probably the most eloquently I have heard that question answered. Very well put, but would you also agree that it would be considered a denomination of Judaism? This is the point that I was trying to make. Much as Mormons are a denomination of Christianity where they added to the...
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    Sheesh, what passes for "Christian" these days

    I don't claim to be a Christian in the traditional sense at all, and I am glad to see that you are open to new ideas even though you don't agree with them. That is all that I ask. I actually got that little piece of scripture from my mother use is a devout southern baptist. It was a while ago...
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    Friday, the 13th

    does anyone here know where the story of Friday the 13th came from. I already know, I just want to see who else out there does.
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    what is the true name of Jesus?

    you guys sound pretty educated in the subject of theology so I will throw this at you. I am part of a discussion group on theology. We have a very diverse group: atheist, traditionalist, apologist, and agnostic. I recently brought up this point and it has been the subject of a lot of debate...
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    Sheesh, what passes for "Christian" these days

    Ok,we want to talk about what is Christian right? I look at Christians today (of which many I have disassociated myself with) and see and very closed minded point of view. Christians were the fore runner in theological thought and spirituality. They were always seeking out to find the answers...
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    Sheesh, what passes for "Christian" these days

    Handy, You may be surprised but I agree with you....to an extent. I have a 3 yr old daughter and no boy will ever lay a finger on here while he is my house. She will not go to anyone else's house that condones such things either. To say that it is not "being a good christian" is a stretch...
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    what is the true name of Jesus?

    Good call Pard. There is also the specualtion about the name of Jehova, but in hebrew it is spelled with the first letter "I"
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    Perfection?

    Ok I am at work so I do not have all of my material with me but I do have my notes on Mark. Here are some verses that display some sinful natures of Jesus. 3:31-35 (honor thy mother and father),9:1 (false prophesy),9:19 (showed contempt to helping people) These are but a few ( I don't have my...
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    Talk About A Slap In The Face

    Lance you couldn't have said it better. It is not the muslims that attacked us. It was Al Queda. Not all muslims are evil people that are against god. That is only what you are taught to believe. I urge people to stop listening to this rhetoric and form your own opinions based off of the...
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    Perfection?

    I'm not even gonna touch this one.
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    Talk About A Slap In The Face

    Like it or not we do share this planet with people that disagree with each other. It is only fair to try to get along with each other without trying to cram out views down each others throats.
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    Talk About A Slap In The Face

    This country was a refuge for those seeking a religious sanctuary. I seriously doubt the founder fathers forgot about that, but you are right that is another subject for another place. I think it would be a grand idea to have church and a mosque side by side at that location. It would help to...
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