Bible Study 1John 3:9 What does it mean?

[FreeGrace]

Edited not relevant to the discussion. reba

Do you live be Faith or by the works of the Law?

By faith, of course. All believers are supposed to. But, when believers sin, or are worried about something, or being self centered, they aren't living by faith. Or by the law.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

The author of the OP started another thread by the same title in A&T.....

....loading my guns as we speak.

 

[ezrider]

If that were true (but thank God it isn't), then same sex marriage would not be sinful, given the changes in the marriage laws in many states. Your example fails to support your claim.

Do you live be Faith or by the works of the Law?

By faith, of course. All believers are supposed to. But, when believers sin, or are worried about something, or being self centered, they aren't living by faith. Or by the law.

So you say you live by faith, as all believers are supposed to. But then you make the statement about same sex marriage as being sin. So I will ask you one more question. When you are judging the same sex marriage issue, are you doing it by faith or by the works of the law?

What is it the defines sin, is it faith or is it the law?

 

[Jethro Bodine]

When you are judging the same sex marriage issue, are you doing it by faith or by the works of the law?

What is it the defines sin, is it faith or is it the law?

In regard to an indisputable matter, like same sex relationships, how does faith define sin?

 

[FreeGrace]

So you say you live by faith, as all believers are supposed to. But then you make the statement about same sex marriage as being sin. So I will ask you one more question. When you are judging the same sex marriage issue, are you doing it by faith or by the works of the law?

What is it the defines sin, is it faith or is it the law?

God's Word defines sin:
Rom 14:23 - But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.

James 4:17 - Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin.

1 Jn 3:4 - Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.

1 Jn 5:17 - All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death.

As for judging homosexuality, I believe Romans 1:21-27 covers that issue clearly.

 

[reba]

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[bcbsr]

Hello! Sin remains sin for Christians. God has no favourites...He is righteous. The law of God has never changed. It is the MEANS of fulfilling the law that has changed. We are empowered by grace through Christ to do what is right in God's eyes.

John says that there is sin that leads to death. Do you deny this?

Concerning "the sin unto death", the context is the following:

• "If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death. We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him." 1John 5:16-18

Here John is indicating he's speaking of a brother in name only, one who has not been born of God. For while he characterizes this brother as "sinning" (lifestyle present tense), he goes on to say "whoever is born of God does not sin" (lifestyle present tense).

The sin unto death which nominal Christians can commit is apostasy, such as is also mentioned in Hebrews 6 and some other places.

 

[Deborah13]

The sin unto death which nominal Christians can commit is apostasy, such as is also mentioned in Hebrews 6 and some other places.

How could a nominal Christian commit apostasy? How can you apostatize from something you never were to begin with? That's an oxymoron. Even by the alternate definition of nominal, how is one a tiny bit born of God?
It appears to me that John is saying, one is either born of God (born again) or not born of God (not born again). I don't see where there is anything in between.

 

[FreeGrace]

How could a nominal Christian commit apostasy? How can you apostatize from something you never were to begin with? That's an oxymoron. Even by the alternate definition of nominal, how is one a tiny bit born of God?
It appears to me that John is saying, one is either born of God (born again) or not born of God (not born again). I don't see where there is anything in between.

Correct. If words have real meaning, then apostasy actually means to no longer believe what was once believed.

That means that apostate believers no longer believe what they used to believe.