99.9% Holiness won't take you to Heaven.

[Classik]

I have been thinking about this issue for quite a long time now. I think, since God is Holy, we must be Holy, too. Of course we know the popular verse: Be ye Holy; for I Am Holy

Lev 11:44
For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy

Moses was almost perfect - but the sin of disobedience denied him the Promised Land.


How about the foolish virgins? They were faithful all the while - but a little moment of delay locked them out of glory.


James 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point , he is guilty of all.


Lev 5:5
And it shall be, when he shall be guilty in one of these things , that he shall confess that he hath sinned in that thing


How long shall we remain in that little sin, so-called little sin??? If 99.9% holiness can take you to heaven....how about the 0.1% sin or impurity in you. Would God, Who is Pure and Holy permit a 0.1% impurity in His presence?


Acts 5
Ananias and Sapphira were faithful. Along the way they left the track. A tiny lie...it was all over...

 

[Classik]

99.9% Holiness won't take you to Heaven - 100% will!!!

 

[Down Yokel]

We can't be 100 per cent holy. To be 100 per cent holy would be to be sinless. That is no where taught in scripture, as 1 John points out.
We are of course to try and be as holy as possible , but we will always fail in this body of sin. However, that is on the horizontal, or human plain. On the upside though, from gods perspective, we are in Christ and our holiness is borrowed from him and we are seen by the father to be 100 per cent holy and accepted in christ.
To say that our being holy is what gets us into heaven is to say that we are saved by our works.

None of us were 100per cent holy when we were born again, but you were 100 per cent saved for sure.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

...from gods perspective, we are in Christ and our holiness is borrowed from him and we are seen by the father to be 100 per cent holy and accepted in christ.

When we stop trusting in Christ's 100% holiness, that's when we are no longer 100% holy in God's sight and unprepared to pass through the coming judgment.

And, honestly, I think a person thinking they can be 99.99% holy is over estimating their holiness anyway. Whatever one would consider a used menstrual cloth to be, that is what our holiness amounts to according to the prophet.

 

[Down Yokel]

When we stop trusting in Christ's 100% holiness, that's when we are no longer 100% holy in God's sight and unprepared to pass through the coming judgment.

I dunno. I'm in the once saved always saved camp. I don't think there is anything we can do to to lose our salvation. I think to doubt christs holiness would be to suggest he is not the sinless god and to think that would mean you have trusted the wrong Jesus in the first place. That would mean you were never saved in the first place.
But that's my opinion. I'm not too sharp on these things

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I dunno. I'm in the once saved always saved camp. I don't think there is anything we can do to to lose our salvation. I think to doubt christs holiness would be to suggest he is not the sinless god and to think that would mean you have trusted the wrong Jesus in the first place. That would mean you were never saved in the first place.
But that's my opinion. I'm not too sharp on these things

Well, that's how the argument goes...the person who 'loses' their salvation was really not saved to begin with.

And as soon as the thread gets overtaken by that discussion I'll be gone.

 

[Down Yokel]

That's a bit blunt. I'm not interested in that argument, I'm just saying that our holiness has nothing to do with our getting into heaven, and anyone who is saved can never doubt christs holiness.

I'm sorry if I offended you.

 

[Christ_empowered]

This is a hard one for me. I always focus on God The Father, I guess because I feel as if I'm "going straight to the top." Anyway, thanks for posting this. This post reminds to focus on Christ, His sinless life, His death, resurrection, and ongoing intercession on our behalf.

 

[Classik]

We think it's difficult? The Holy Spirit is there to guide us.

 

[Classik]

Is a person who struggles with drugs or sex or whatever single/particular sin (if sin should be the right word...perhaps addiction) heavenworthy? I think this kind of clarifies the OP. Thanks all... for you replys

 

[Jethro Bodine]

...anyone who is saved can never doubt christs holiness.

I know the staying power of the Holy Spirit from my own experience, but I'm not convinced everyone who is genuinely saved can't walk away from trust in Christ's blood for the forgiveness of their sins.

I'm sorry if I offended you.

I'm not offended in the least...but thank you for your apologies anyway.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Is a person who struggles with drugs or sex or whatever single/particular sin (if sin should be the right word...perhaps addiction) heavenworthy?

It depends on why they are in drugs and sex, etc.

If it truly is a struggle it could well represent the growing pains of the faith. But sin can also represent a 'I don't care about the blood of Christ' attitude. Only God and the person sinning know.

 

[farouk]

The issue is, Are we justified by faith (Romans 5.1), through the Person of Christ?

 

[Adullam]

Are we justified to sin with impunity? There is a great confusion and apostasy from the true faith based on a man centered salvation scheme concocted from a selection of verses.

We are saved to walk in Christ and cease from sin. Period.

 

[farouk]

Are we justified to sin with impunity? There is a great confusion and apostasy from the true faith based on a man centered salvation scheme concocted from a selection of verses.

We are saved to walk in Christ and cease from sin. Period.

A:

If it is to my post that you were replying, I think you are reading things into it that certainly were not there.

To the question put, it's not 99.9% holiness, supposedly, which will take us to heaven, but whether we are justified by faith in Christ, before God.

 

[SpagLard]

Is a person who struggles with drugs or sex or whatever single/particular sin (if sin should be the right word...perhaps addiction) heavenworthy?

Yes.
but they should repent and make right first.
I mean, who is totally without sin ?
heaven would be empty if 00.1% Sin gets you permanently locked out ,
with no chance to make ammends ever , right ?
Christ is very forgiving.

 

[farouk]

Yes.
but they should repent and make right first.
I mean, who is totally without sin ?
heaven would be empty if 00.1% Sin gets you permanently locked out ,
with no chance to make ammends ever , right ?
Christ is very forgiving.

SpagLard:

Yes, repentance and faith are the key; you're right.

Romans 2 speaks of repentance; Romans 3 says 'all have sinned and come short of the glory of God'; Romans 5 speaks of being justified by faith; Romans 8 speaks of nothing separating the believer from the love of God, in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Blessings.

 

[Adullam]

A:

If it is to my post that you were replying, I think you are reading things into it that certainly were not there.

To the question put, it's not 99.9% holiness, supposedly, which will take us to heaven, but whether we are justified by faith in Christ, before God.

Does one need to be 100% holy to be saved?

I think the vast majority of people see no difference between surviving death and being the Bride of Christ. No wonder the confusion.

A saint is one who walks in the holiness of God...and he cannot sin when he abides in Christ. So Christ is our holiness and perfection.

This must be contrasted with our character which is our souls being saved into the righteousness of God. Some will produce 30 fold...some 60, and some 100...and everything in between.

 

[farouk]

Does one need to be 100% holy to be saved?

I think the vast majority of people see no difference between surviving death and being the Bride of Christ. No wonder the confusion.

A saint is one who walks in the holiness of God...and he cannot sin when he abides in Christ. So Christ is our holiness and perfection.

This must be contrasted with our character which is our souls being saved into the righteousness of God. Some will produce 30 fold...some 60, and some 100...and everything in between.

It's by faith in Christ that the believer is reckoned to be just before God.

Not by good works. Good works follow. (Ephesians 2.9&10).

 

[Adullam]

It's by faith in Christ that the believer is reckoned to be just before God.

Not by good works. Good works follow. (Ephesians 2.9&10).

Do they?

That is the issue. How real is our faithfulness to God. Is it optional?

We are only reckoned righteous when we are actually abiding in Him and the power of His resurrection.

We can tell how our faithfulness is by whether we are still sinning or not. If we are still sinning then we are not yet arrived at His righteousness. It means we are to keep seeking.

It is like a bell at a fair. The weight is too heavy for anyone to hit the bell. But with the power of Christ we can ding the bell that no man can in his own strength. So no "ding" no strength of Christ yet.

So we are to be divested of our own strength in order to depend on His. THEN we see the purpose of the gospel...to overcome and destroy sins that get in the way of an ongoing intimacy with God.