Antichrist is not a man.

[Cornelius]

Is the Bride of Christ one woman? The Bible says she is.Joh 3:29 He that hath the bride (singular) is the bridegroom (singular): but the friend of the bridegroom, that standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is made full.

So I suppose we can make a new doctrine, that we can "prove" from Scripture, that because the Groom is thought be be one person, the Bride must be one person too.

We all know that this is not so. Yet we cannot see that the same language describes the antichrist, and the "son of perdition" . Its the same language that describes the Harlot (also not just one woman dressed in red ) . We jump between our own interpretations. We are willing to accept a group, when it speaks about the Harlot. But no group when it speaks about the witnesses, no ! they must be two old men dressed in sackcloth who spits fire in a real city called Jerusalem in the Middle East. But the dragon is symbolic, but the antichrist must again revert back to one man only. The bride is many, and the Groom is one.Or is He? The false prophet again, must be one disgusting person , so we can all hate him , with his charismatic , but evil leader .

Its all so silly and people have made it impossible for others to understand the simple truth. They have given their ears to "leaders" and the "leaders" have led them into the letter, where they now happily dwell.

 

[Sinthesis]

I am against the doctrine that tells people that the antichrist is one man only. That is a false doctrine , although most of the church believes that one.The fact that most believe this, does not make it true It just means, that its a widely misunderstood.

Agreed

 

[Sinthesis]

We are willing to accept a group, when it speaks about the Harlot. But no group when it speaks about the witnesses, no ! they must be two old men dressed in sackcloth who spits fire in a real city called Jerusalem in the Middle East.

I believe the two witnesses are 'Righteous Judaism' and 'Christianity'. Both seemed dead with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD, yet still they live. (Not positive on the Judaism part)

 

[sheshisown]

Well Cornelius~

What matters MOST is what you believe about Jesus The Christ. Who after all is the antichrist? Only a false supplanter, who will fall at the breath of our Lord when He opens His mouth against him! Who would seek to divide us over what we believe regarding things that are truly BEYOND the deep and thorough knowledge of our finite minds. As long as you don't start thinking He is some kind of a conglomerated group of Jesus' ...

In the love of Christ as ever... bonnie

 

[Joe67]

Well Cornelius~

What matters MOST is what you believe about Jesus The Christ. Who after all is the antichrist? Only a false supplanter, who will fall at the breath of our Lord when He opens His mouth against him! Who would seek to divide us over what we believe regarding things that are truly BEYOND the deep and thorough knowledge of our finite minds. As long as you don't start thinking He is some kind of a conglomerated group of Jesus' ...

In the love of Christ as ever... bonnie

bonnie,

Many will come in the name of Jesus, our Lord told us. It should put us on our watch. It should lead us to examine our hearts to see if we are in the faith; daily.

Joe

 

[Cornelius]

Well Cornelius~

What matters MOST is what you believe about Jesus The Christ. Who after all is the antichrist? Only a false supplanter, who will fall at the breath of our Lord when He opens His mouth against him! Who would seek to divide us over what we believe regarding things that are truly BEYOND the deep and thorough knowledge of our finite minds. As long as you don't start thinking He is some kind of a conglomerated group of Jesus' ...

In the love of Christ as ever... bonnie

Hi Bonnie,
The knowledge about the antichrist is not beyond understanding

As long as you don't start thinking He is some kind of a conglomerated group of Jesus' ...

Are you talking about the Body of Christ ? If so, then Who lives in a body ,but the person who's name the body carries.
If Jesus lives IN you, where is Jesus ?
If we are the BODY of Christ, where is Christ ?

..........

The whole world that is not The Body Of Christ.............who's "body" are they? The Bible says there are only two men in the field (world) Mat 24:40 Then shall two men be in the field; one is taken, and one is left: Mat 13:38 and the field is the world;
Well, we know the one man is Christ (the body of Christ) so the other man must be......?

Who is left when you remove Christ ?

 

[Cornelius]

We are willing to accept a group, when it speaks about the Harlot. But no group when it speaks about the witnesses, no ! they must be two old men dressed in sackcloth who spits fire in a real city called Jerusalem in the Middle East.

I believe the two witnesses are 'Righteous Judaism' and 'Christianity'. Both seemed dead with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD, yet still they live. (Not positive on the Judaism part)

You are right and also the first person I have met online that understand this

We will see the second witness come in, when God brings in the remnant of Israel into the church during the Tribulation. It is reflected in the story of Joseph (first fruits), when his little brother Benjamin (small remnant from Israel) came to him after Joseph met all his brothers (Christians) again. So we are waiting for "Benjamin" at this moment. He is about to come out of Israel at any time now.Then the two witnesses will be complete and ready to go out.

 

[JoJo]

Cornelius, thank you for this study. It has brought me some clarity and peace.

 

[n2thelight]

The antichrist is non other than satan himself.Not a man posessed,but satan,this will be his role when he gets kicked out of Heaven.

When satan first comes as the antichrist he is not going to appear as all that is evilâ€â€not at the firstâ€â€but as his time here continues he will show his true self. By this means, as it is written in the Bible, he shall deceive the world. He could not deceive anyone if he came as a monster breathing fire, no, but as the false christ, the instead-of christ, the imposter, he will catch most all the world off guard. The people of this earth are not ready for a supernatural being possessing supernatural powers, who is allowed by God to perform miracles (Rev 13:13-14), and who also comes FIRST before the true Messiah, in the likeness and similitude of what the world expects of the prophesied True Messiah.

As it is prophesied, satan (as the antichrist) will come to this earth in the final times as an instead-of christ, an impostor to the true Christ prior to the prophesied Second Advent of Jesus Christ. Satan and his accompanying fallen angels will have but a five month reign (Rev 9:5 & 10) which was shortened by the Grace of God from the 3½ years (Mat 24:21-22 & Mk 13:19-20).

The True Jesus Christ comes at the last (7th) Trump (Rev 19:11ff), which leads into the Millennium (1000 year) period (Rev 20:4-5), then onto Judgment Day including the casting into the Lake of Fire (commonly referred to as Hell) of those who did not overcome (Rev 20:11-15), then the eternal Heaven Age having no end for the faithful (Rev 21:1-4).

 

[Cornelius]

No, that is not what the Bible teaches. Your view is more correct, but still is missing the point that the antichrist will consist of a group , not just one person. A group that is consists of ALL that are outside of Christ.

Look around you, "he" is already here.

 

[watchman7337]

The Antichrist is definitely a man. I've worked for him over the past 9 years. He's a Satan worshipper and member of the Freemasons or Illuminati, a world-wide terrorist organization that practices occult magic to communicate with demons and obtain supernatural powers. Check my videos that disclose the use of Satanic mind reading to commit extortion. The motive for the extortion manifested when members of the Italian Mafia, a Freemason racket, demanded that I acknowledge Lucifer as God prior to accepting a business offer. After refusing to accept Lucifer as God, they proceeded to stalk me using Satanic mind reading. As the stalking continued, they proceeded to use ideas to propagate on the television and media. The following videos disclose for the first time in world history the use of the ancient craft of divination (see Deuteronomy 18, 14) being used by the Antichrist to control and corrupt individuals in prominent positions in the world today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69IDH_dhkDU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT4m-vli6Ag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2PmXjorE7A

 

[n2thelight]

No, that is not what the Bible teaches. Your view is more correct, but still is missing the point that the antichrist will consist of a group , not just one person. A group that is consists of ALL that are outside of Christ.

Look around you, "he" is already here.

his evil spirits are here but he is not,he has yet to be kicked out of Heaven.

Revelation 12

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

This event has yet to take place.

when satan gets here he will preform miricles in the sight of men,that's how he will deceive the world

Revelation 13

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

(the first beast in chapter 13 is a system)

It's all about deception.satan will even appear on his white horse just as you expect Christ will

Revelation 6
1And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

2And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

antichrist is not a man he is satan,the antichrist whom Christ said were here already,are just types.

 

[Cornelius]

No, that is not what the Bible teaches. Your view is more correct, but still is missing the point that the antichrist will consist of a group , not just one person. A group that is consists of ALL that are outside of Christ.

Look around you, "he" is already here.

his evil spirits are here but he is not,he has yet to be kicked out of Heaven.

Revelation 12

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

This event has yet to take place.

when satan gets here he will preform miricles in the sight of men,that's how he will deceive the world

Revelation 13

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

(the first beast in chapter 13 is a system)

It's all about deception.satan will even appear on his white horse just as you expect Christ will

Revelation 6
1And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

2And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

antichrist is not a man he is satan,the antichrist whom Christ said were here already,are just types.

Thank you for sharing you understanding.

I know that there is a traditional understanding out there and it is the way that most perceive it to be. However, I know that when we see the truth, we will see that "he" is in fact already here.

The antichrist will be a group , like the UN . Obviously men lead such organizations and will head them. That does not make such men and a man, THE antichrist, because the Bible does not tell us he will be a man. Never in the New Testament is the word antichrist ever linked with a man. Never.

ALWAYS a group

Its rather simple. God has been raising up the Body of Christ (Group) unto maturity.
Satan has been raising up his body (ALL who are outside of Christ, yes even your neighbor and aunt) They are all ANTI-Christ, because they are not PRO-Christ. Surely that is not difficult to grasp.

Two groups: Body of Christ against..................Body of Satan (antichrist)

Clear as crystal

C

 

[n2thelight]

No, that is not what the Bible teaches. Your view is more correct, but still is missing the point that the antichrist will consist of a group , not just one person. A group that is consists of ALL that are outside of Christ.

Look around you, "he" is already here.

his evil spirits are here but he is not,he has yet to be kicked out of Heaven.

Revelation 12

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

This event has yet to take place.

when satan gets here he will preform miricles in the sight of men,that's how he will deceive the world

Revelation 13

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

(the first beast in chapter 13 is a system)

It's all about deception.satan will even appear on his white horse just as you expect Christ will

Revelation 6
1And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

2And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

antichrist is not a man he is satan,the antichrist whom Christ said were here already,are just types.

Thank you for sharing you understanding.

I know that there is a traditional understanding out there and it is the way that most perceive it to be. However, I know that when we see the truth, we will see that "he" is in fact already here.

The antichrist will be a group , like the UN . Obviously men lead such organizations and will head them. That does not make such men and a man, THE antichrist, because the Bible does not tell us he will be a man. Never in the New Testament is the word antichrist ever linked with a man. Never.

ALWAYS a group

Its rather simple. God has been raising up the Body of Christ (Group) unto maturity.
Satan has been raising up his body (ALL who are outside of Christ, yes even your neighbor and aunt) They are all ANTI-Christ, because they are not PRO-Christ. Surely that is not difficult to grasp.

Two groups: Body of Christ against..................Body of Satan (antichrist)

Clear as crystal

C

The group is the first beast of Rev 13,The first beast [Rev 13:1-10] is the emerging one-world political/religious system.

This confederacy of all the world's Nations, Educational systems (Media), Monetary systems, and most importantly the Religions will be in effect under the rule of one Governing body. This will make it possible for the antichrist to step in, take the reins, and assume control of most every soul on the planet. This antichrist is the second beast of Revelation chapter thirteen, and he is satan himself, who comes first before Jesus Christ's Second Advent, and he claims to be the True prophesied Messiah.

The second beast [Rev 13:11-18] is satan himself in his role as the antichrist. The word 'antichrist,' in the Greek language that the book of revelation was written in, does not mean what it means in our English language. It does not mean 'the prevention of' as in antifreeze. But rather it means 'instead of' as in an imposter. The word antichrist in the Greek language is antichristos (an-tee'-khris-tos), and it is composed of two words, the second word Christos (khris-tos') you recognize as Christ. But the first word anti (an-tee') has a very revealing definition, it means 'instead of' or 'a substitution' for something. When this prefix is used of a person it means that he is an imposter to whomever the prefix anti is attached to. In this case (anti-Christ); he is an imposter to Christ:

Greek word #473: anti (an-tee'); a primary particle; opposite, i.e. instead or because of (rarely in addition to): In the King James Version Bible, all the other places where the translators encountered to prefix word 'anti' they translated it into the following English words and phrases:

Translation of the Greek word 'anti' in the KJV Bible is: "for, in the room of. Often used in composition to denote contrast, requital, substitution, correspondence, etc."

 

[Cornelius]

"In stead of" . That is everything that you have "in stead of " Christ. Your job, you hobby, your religion, your government, being a patriot, being for your church and not for Christ, etc.

So "in stead of" does not always mean what you say it does. Its WIDER. It means MORE.

People are staring at the letter and think this a going be A man that is full of Satan, but the Bible says its going to be ALL men, that are without Christ that will have something "in stead of"-Christ..antichrist. You either have Christ or you have the "in stead of".

Before you were saved you had the "in stead of" Christ. You were living your life for the "in stead of Christ" You were antichrist then, just like we all were.

C

 

[n2thelight]

"In stead of" . That is everything that you have "in stead of " Christ. Your job, you hobby, your religion, your government, being a patriot, being for your church and not for Christ, etc.

So "in stead of" does not always mean what you say it does. Its WIDER. It means MORE.

People are staring at the letter and think this a going be A man that is full of Satan, but the Bible says its going to be ALL men, that are without Christ that will have something "in stead of"-Christ..antichrist. You either have Christ or you have the "in stead of".

Before you were saved you had the "in stead of" Christ. You were living your life for the "in stead of Christ" You were antichrist then, just like we all were.

C

I don't think your understanding what Im saying,yes we have many antichrists among us,but THE antichrist whom is satan is not here yet.

antichrist is simply one of satan's many names

 

[Cornelius]

"In stead of" . That is everything that you have "in stead of " Christ. Your job, you hobby, your religion, your government, being a patriot, being for your church and not for Christ, etc.

So "in stead of" does not always mean what you say it does. Its WIDER. It means MORE.

People are staring at the letter and think this a going be A man that is full of Satan, but the Bible says its going to be ALL men, that are without Christ that will have something "in stead of"-Christ..antichrist. You either have Christ or you have the "in stead of".

Before you were saved you had the "in stead of" Christ. You were living your life for the "in stead of Christ" You were antichrist then, just like we all were.

C

I don't think your understanding what Im saying,yes we have many antichrists among us,but THE antichrist whom is satan is not here yet.

antichrist is simply one of satan's many names

No, I do understand exactly what you mean, because that is how I use to see this as well. Like the books "Left Behind" paints it. But later I started questioning this, but I went to the Lord first and dropped my beliefs and asked God to correct me, if I was wrong in my understanding.

Now the interesting thing is, that from my experience , many who have done this, to go to the Lord and really ask Him , received a different answer to that of the "Left Behind" series.But if you ask, first look into your heart if you are really prepared to receive something that might not be as you believe, or the Lord will not answer. First be prepared to be wrong and change if God wants you to change.

C

 

[n2thelight]

"In stead of" . That is everything that you have "in stead of " Christ. Your job, you hobby, your religion, your government, being a patriot, being for your church and not for Christ, etc.

So "in stead of" does not always mean what you say it does. Its WIDER. It means MORE.

People are staring at the letter and think this a going be A man that is full of Satan, but the Bible says its going to be ALL men, that are without Christ that will have something "in stead of"-Christ..antichrist. You either have Christ or you have the "in stead of".

Before you were saved you had the "in stead of" Christ. You were living your life for the "in stead of Christ" You were antichrist then, just like we all were.

C

I don't think your understanding what Im saying,yes we have many antichrists among us,but THE antichrist whom is satan is not here yet.

antichrist is simply one of satan's many names

No, I do understand exactly what you mean, because that is how I use to see this as well. Like the books "Left Behind" paints it. But later I started questioning this, but I went to the Lord first and dropped my beliefs and asked God to correct me, if I was wrong in my understanding.

Now the interesting thing is, that from my experience , many who have done this, to go to the Lord and really ask Him , received a different answer to that of the "Left Behind" series.But if you ask, first look into your heart if you are really prepared to receive something that might not be as you believe, or the Lord will not answer. First be prepared to be wrong and change if God wants you to change.

C

I don't see it as the "Left Behind"books either,as a matter of fact,they have it all wrong,especially the so called rapture.

The group you speak of is the first beast of Rev 13,and yes they are here now,alive and well working for their father.

Whether one chooses to call him the antichrist or not,the fact remains that he is not here yet.

 

[Cornelius]

Brother, I wish I had the time to really explain it all, but a forum in the first place is so slow and one can never really talk . We misunderstand each other all the time. SO I am going to give you a link to a free book, you can download and read. You seem to be really interested in prophecy and if you are, then you will enjoy this book.

The first time I read it, I nearly threw it away, because it went against most things I believed then.It upset my core and it changed me. All the time I wanted to throw it away, the only thing preventing me, was that everything was backed by Scripture and for some strange reason, I could understand everything that was written there. For the first time in my life, the prophecies made sense.

This book is really not for everybody and I truly believe that the Holy Spirit stops some people from reading it. Many are against it, for reasons you will see if you read it. So if you are meant to read it, here is the link: (This book should come with a warning. It destroys doctrines of men )

http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=e-book2

 

[Joe67]

Jesus of Nazareth had no form or beauty of religion that we should desire him as a religious leader.

His social service was offensive ultimately. He counted social service as subordinate to that which leads to the glory and praise of God and from God. He placed human relationships as secondary and subservient to the purpose of God.

Jesus teachings were offensive to the educated and seemed mysterious to the uneducated.

Jesus neither owned nor controlled material property; not even his inner and outer garments. He accepted hospitality in material needs and reciprocated with teachings concerning the kingdom of God.

Those who come in Jesus' name but act and teach otherwise, our Lord said to not follow them.

We have all followed another gospel, another Jesus. Let us follow them no more.

Joe