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Are you a true Sabbath keeper?

Geo said:
Cornelius said:
Geo said:
Is itt a burden to keep the sabbath day holy?

I would really love to know exactly how you keep the Sabbath these days. Which set of rules do you follow , or have you adapted the Jewish rules ?


Well, where would you check to find out?

The Ten Commandment 'Epistle' of Christ is recreated into the heart & mind of the Born Again ones. ( 2 Cor. 3:3 & Hebrews.10:15-16.)

Can I find it on my heart? If yes, case solved.

If no, lets' assume I either cannot read my heart, or my mind suppresses my heart with its own understanding, so where then would I find a personal word spoken by God detailing the answer to that question ?


Ok, based on the answers we can assume, it was not found written on the heart.

And we couldn't find and identify God's explicit words regarding the subject either.

But rationalisations forced us to go off course and find other ways to explain it.

Now what you are going to go with then? As far as I can see you only got rationalisations based on a faulty logic, that says very clearly that we can view 9 (or even 180 !) commandments one way - but for this one we need to "switch sides" and see it from a different angle. A real 'spiritual' outcome or fulfillment never denies the basic commandment where it came from (thats says "do it"). You arrived somewhere that has no basic foundation in Scripture, you rationalized a commandment of God away.
 
Every minute of every day we find rest in Christ. He is the Lord of the Sabbath and we have no use in esteeming one day above another when Christ resides in our heart. His voice is always with us prompting us to go or stay...do or don't. It may be something as simple as hold your child or speak to that neighbor. There is no list of rules that can ever take the place of our living Lord.
 
glorydaz said:
Every minute of every day we find rest in Christ. He is the Lord of the Sabbath and we have no use in esteeming one day above another when Christ resides in our heart. His voice is always with us prompting us to go or stay...do or don't. It may be something as simple as hold your child or speak to that neighbor. There is no list of rules that can ever take the place of our living Lord.

One has no commandtment to do what six days before the SEVENTH??? :screwloose Ex.

[8] Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

[9] Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

[10] But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

[11] For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (a day Blessed + Hallowed by God Himself, HIS DAY! It is NO wonder we see so many divorces today with that mentality of just any old woman will do Lord!)

And then we see the Inspiration botched up (2 Cor. 4:2) with foolish satanic 'teachings' that heaven will be filled with USA ones [ALL] on welfare, huh? Forum: See Isa. 66:22-23 + Isa. 65:17-25 for the Lord's Truth!

--Elijah
 
glorydaz said:
Every minute of every day we find rest in Christ. He is the Lord of the Sabbath and we have no use in esteeming one day above another when Christ resides in our heart. His voice is always with us prompting us to go or stay...do or don't. It may be something as simple as hold your child or speak to that neighbor. There is no list of rules that can ever take the place of our living Lord.

One has no commandtment to do what six days before the SEVENTH??? :screwloose Ex.

[8] Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

[9] Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

[10] But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

[11] For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (a day Blessed + Hallowed by God Himself, HIS DAY! It is NO wonder we see so many divorces today with that mentality of just any old woman will do Lord!)

And then we see the Inspiration botched up (2 Cor. 4:2) with foolish satanic 'teachings' that heaven will be filled with USA ones [ALL] on welfare, huh? Forum: See Isa. 66:22-23 + Isa. 65:17-25 for the Lord's Truth!

Isa. 66
[22] For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
[23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
[24] And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

--Elijah
 
Using Isaiah to support the keeping of the Sabbath...or the new moon festival in heaven...is error, and contradicts the Bible... the weekly Sabbath, the new moon festival, the moon, night, death at age 100, sinners, and even the Levitical priesthood are not a part of heaven at all. It's a misreading of Isaiah to say otherwise.

If Isaiah 66 teaches sabbath keeping it also teaches the rest. Isaiah 66 isn't speaking of heaven...a child won't die at 100 (Is.65)...there is no sin in heaven (Is 65)...there is no night in heaven (new moons require night).

The sabbath was abolished at the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He is our sabbath rest.
Which is why no man is to judge us...they were mere shadows.
Col. 2:16 said:
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
The priesthood is changed.
Hebrews 7:12 said:
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
 
glorydaz said:
Under the Sabbath Law no man was to go out of his place...."See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day."Exodus 16:29

:nono You're taking Exodus 16:29 way way out of context wresting the scripture to your own destruction.

The correct interpretation of that verse is that no man was to go out of his place to do secular work like gather manna from heaven like one paraphraser puts this verse.

Moses said:
"They must realize that the Sabbath is the LORD's gift to you. That is why he gives you a two-day supply on the sixth day, so there will be enough for two days. On the Sabbath day you must each stay in your place. Do not go out to pick up food on the seventh day."
Exodus 16:29 New Living Translation(2007)

Yahweh's people the sons of God always knew about and kept the Sabbath from Adam and Eve on down Seth and Abel and Noah and Enoch and Abraham and Jacob and Joseph all kept the Sabbath who were on God's side. But the sons of man followers of Nimrod and his wife and his igelimate child and all the other pagans and idolater kept sunday but then Israel was enslaved and they weren't allowed to keep the Sabbath anymore for over 400 years so God had to teach them again.

The way you take Exodus 16:29 out of context makes me think that you have never heard of the Manna from heaven in Exodus 16:14-26 this was how Yahweh chose to teach the Israel people about the Sabbath saying they can gather this bread six day's a week and one the six a double portion was to be set out so that they should not go out of his place and go looking for bread on the Sabbath. But even though these people knew this some of them decided to go out anyway.

Moses said:
"And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none."
Exodus 16:27

And that verse you quoted was after this happened and Yahweh was telling Moses to remind the people of what had already been said earlier that the people should not go out one the Sabbath to do secular work whether it be looking for manna like Exodus 16:26 or going out to gather wood Numbers 15:32 but going out to take care of someone sick or go to pray for someone has never been against God's sabbath.

Glorydaz said:
Paul didn't keep the Sabbath here when he went out of the city...
Luke said:
And on the sabbath day we went outside the gate by the river, where it was the custom for prayer to be, and we sat down and spoke to the women who had assembled."
Acts 16:13 Darby Bible Translation

:nono You are way out of line for accusing Christ's apostle for Sabbath breaking. How better are you than the Pharisees who accused Jesus of doing the same thing? Even with all the Pharisees man made traditions and man made rules they wouldn't have accused Jesus for breaking the Sabbath just because he left his house or walked out of the city to pray for someone. Even they allowed someone to go a Sabbath day's journey. But you won't even let Paul do that before you accuse him of being a Sabbath breaker. The women that Paul went to see were Jews and there was appartently so few Jews there in Philipi that they did not even have a synagogue to go to but had worship by the river on the Sabbath. Check a bible commentary and now and then. why not?

Luke said:
"As his custom was, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures,"
Acts 17:2
Paul said:
"Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ."
1st Corinthians 11:1
Luke said:
"And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read."
Luke 4:16

Not only did Christ's apostle keep the Sabbath,he taught the gentiles like you and me to do the same thing.

Luke said:
"And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath""And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God"
Acts 13:42,44

Glorydaz said:
"He knew the sabbath was only a shadow of the Messiah and His rest.
It is only through Jesus that we can truly find rest for our souls.
"

Is He your Messiah? Do you love Him? Listen to Him


Messiah said:
"How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days."
Matthew 12:12

Jesus gave you permission to do well on God's seventh day Sabbath. He did not say It is lawful to abandon God's holy seventh day sabbath day and make unbiblical excuses like alot of 9 Commandment only Christians are doing.

Messiah said:
"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city"
Revelation 22:14
 
SonByAdoption said:
glorydaz said:
Under the Sabbath Law no man was to go out of his place...."See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day."Exodus 16:29

:nono You're taking Exodus 16:29 way way out of context wresting the scripture to your own destruction.

The correct interpretation of that verse is that no man was to go out of his place to do secular work like gather manna from heaven like one paraphraser puts this verse.

Moses said:
"They must realize that the Sabbath is the LORD's gift to you. That is why he gives you a two-day supply on the sixth day, so there will be enough for two days. On the Sabbath day you must each stay in your place. Do not go out to pick up food on the seventh day."
Exodus 16:29 New Living Translation(2007)

Yahweh's people the sons of God always knew about and kept the Sabbath from Adam and Eve on down Seth and Abel and Noah and Enoch and Abraham and Jacob and Joseph all kept the Sabbath who were on God's side. But the sons of man followers of Nimrod and his wife and his igelimate child and all the other pagans and idolater kept sunday but then Israel was enslaved and they weren't allowed to keep the Sabbath anymore for over 400 years so God had to teach them again.

The way you take Exodus 16:29 out of context makes me think that you have never heard of the Manna from heaven in Exodus 16:14-26 this was how Yahweh chose to teach the Israel people about the Sabbath saying they can gather this bread six day's a week and one the six a double portion was to be set out so that they should not go out of his place and go looking for bread on the Sabbath. But even though these people knew this some of them decided to go out anyway.

Moses said:
"And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none."
Exodus 16:27

And that verse you quoted was after this happened and Yahweh was telling Moses to remind the people of what had already been said earlier that the people should not go out one the Sabbath to do secular work whether it be looking for manna like Exodus 16:26 or going out to gather wood Numbers 15:32 but going out to take care of someone sick or go to pray for someone has never been against God's sabbath.

Glorydaz said:
Paul didn't keep the Sabbath here when he went out of the city...
Luke said:
And on the sabbath day we went outside the gate by the river, where it was the custom for prayer to be, and we sat down and spoke to the women who had assembled."
Acts 16:13 Darby Bible Translation

:nono You are way out of line for accusing Christ's apostle for Sabbath breaking. How better are you than the Pharisees who accused Jesus of doing the same thing? Even with all the Pharisees man made traditions and man made rules they wouldn't have accused Jesus for breaking the Sabbath just because he left his house or walked out of the city to pray for someone. Even they allowed someone to go a Sabbath day's journey. But you won't even let Paul do that before you accuse him of being a Sabbath breaker. The women that Paul went to see were Jews and there was appartently so few Jews there in Philipi that they did not even have a synagogue to go to but had worship by the river on the Sabbath. Check a bible commentary and now and then. why not?

Luke said:
"As his custom was, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures,"
Acts 17:2
Paul said:
"Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ."
1st Corinthians 11:1
Luke said:
"And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read."
Luke 4:16

Not only did Christ's apostle keep the Sabbath,he taught the gentiles like you and me to do the same thing.

Luke said:
"And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath""And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God"
Acts 13:42,44

Glorydaz said:
"He knew the sabbath was only a shadow of the Messiah and His rest.
It is only through Jesus that we can truly find rest for our souls.
"

Is He your Messiah? Do you love Him? Listen to Him


Messiah said:
"How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days."
Matthew 12:12

Jesus gave you permission to do well on God's seventh day Sabbath. He did not say It is lawful to abandon God's holy seventh day sabbath day and make unbiblical excuses like alot of 9 Commandment only Christians are doing.

Messiah said:
"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city"
Revelation 22:14
You can get as indignant as you like, it does not change the fact that I did, indeed, quote from the Law. What you fail to understand is that the Sabbath was a sign to Israel. I'm wresting nothing from Scripture...it's you that chooses to deny what the Word says...not me.

The Sabbath laws were given to the children of Israel as a sign of their release from bondage.
Deuteronomy 5:12-15 said:
Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee. Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou. And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
This is Moses...not me...saying to stone the man who was gathering sticks on the Sabbath.
Numbers 15:32-36 said:
And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation. And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him. And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.
All this lecturing and you do the very thing we're told not to do. So, I'll just rebuke you and say very plainly.....you are not to judge anyone respecting the Sabbath. If you want to keep the handwriting of ordinances that was against us...that's your business, but you will not be successful in inflicting your views on those who know that Jesus is our Sabbath rest.
Colossians 2:14-16 said:
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
It's an outright falsehood to claim anyone kept the Sabbath before it was given to Moses in Exodus.
"The Lord made NOT this covenant with our fathers."
Deuteronomy 5:2-4 said:
The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day. The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire,
You can deny it until you're blue in the face, but the Scripture is clear on this matter.
Ezekiel 20:10-12 said:
Wherefore I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt, and brought them into the wilderness. And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them. Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.
 
Adullam said:
The word sabbath means to stop! In the OT this was a purely physical ceasing from one's activity in order to show forth God as Creator as well as giving a break to both man and beast.

In the NT we have the Lord of the Sabbath, Jesus Christ taking sabbath to a new level. Where before, men interpreted laws through physical actions, Jesus clarified the law to the level of the mind and thoughts that men produce.

Even to look at a woman to lust after her was the same as having committing adultery with her. This narrowed the road significantly!

So it is with the sabbath. We are to cease from having our own thoughts outside of Christ. We are not to live independently but dependently on the mind of Christ. Jesus Christ wants to a live a perfect life through us!

How many have ceased from their own thoughts and ways? How many are controlled from heaven so that we only think and do as the Father thinks and does? How many have been to the cross and have ceased from their own lives? How many are true sabbath keepers?

OK: Surely! Now let me ask you the same question in bottom/line.. are YOU A TRUE CHRISTIAN?? The whole issure with God, is MATURITY one way or the other. Nah. 1:9 (compare 1 John 5:16-17 for Christian's only)
You know, from milk to matured Obedient Meat! Acts 5:32

All of the Provisions have been freely given (Phil. 4:13 + 2 Cor. 12:9) [[[IF]]], and anything else is a mature cop/out. Obad. 1:16

--Elijah
 
Glorydaz how are you doing? I hope you are having a great preperation day. Yahweh's holy 7th day Sabbath is approaching.
GLORYDAZ said:
"it does not change the fact that I did, indeed, quote from the Law."
You quoted Yahweh talking to Moses telling him that He was upset that the people disobeyed Him by going out and looking for manna on the Sabbath and asked Moses to remind them again.
And then you said I'm paraphrasing "See Paul didn't keep the Sabbath because he walked out the gates of the city to go pray for people by the river."
and I'll ask you again. How are you better than the Pharasies that accused Jesus of Sabbath breaking?
Deut.5:2-4W.E.B. said:
Yahweh our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.Yahweh didn't make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day. Yahweh spoke with you face to face on the mountain out of the midst of the fire
GLORYDAZ said:
"The Lord made NOT this covenant with our fathers."
It's an outright falsehood to claim anyone kept the Sabbath before it was given to Moses in Exodus.
Brother you're not thinking clearly because the Horeb covenant was not just Sabbath 4th commandment covenant. It was a ten commandment covenant as anyone can see if they just glance down to a couple of verses later than the ones you quoted. Using your reasoning a false prophet could say that Cain didn't know that murder was wrong and Yahweh was unfair because before Moses time no one knew about the 10 commandments. It surely is logical and reasonable to believe that Adam and Eve knew about the 10 commandments and passed the information down to their children from generation to generation until they were unable to keep them during their 400 year slavery and the same way the knowledge of the future Messiah was passed down because no one was ever saved by keeping the ten commandments but having faith in Christ."The Sabbath was made for man"
GLORYDAZ said:
"The Sabbath laws were given to the children of Israel as a sign of their release from bondage"
Deut.5:6 said:
"I am Yahweh your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage."You shall have no other gods before me"
Not just the 4th commandment but the whole entire ten commandments was given as a sign of their release from bondage but that doesn't invalidate them. Even more reason for us to keep them because we were release from a bondage of sin which is transgression of the law according to James. Christians are Israel and the world is Egypt and we are looking forward to the 2nd Exodus when Christ takes us to heaven the sleeping ones will rise first.Praise Yahweh.
GLORYDAZ said:
you are not to judge anyone respecting the Sabbath. If you want to keep the handwriting of ordinances that was against us...that's your business,
There is a diference between Christ's law 10commandments which He personally came down and wrote Himself with His own finger and personally spoke with His own mouth to the children of Israel and the other laws the civil laws and the ceremonial laws ceremonial sabbaths passover, Pentecost etc. that Paul is talking about in collosians. The handwritten ordinances are the ceremonial sabbath laws Christ told Moses to hand write. The ten commandments Christ personally wrote Himself. Please learn the difereace and get it straight.
GLORYDAZ said:
" but you will not be successful in inflicting your views on those who know that Jesus is our Sabbath rest."
Acts13:42 said:
"the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath"And the next sabbath day came almost the whole [Gentile] city together to hear the word of God"
Glorydaz possible yours and my ancestors were there.Possibly these were Pagan gentiles who worshiped the sun on sunday but they didn't tell Paul come to us tomorrow on our usual worship day. They said Paul we want to learn to worship the true God on His day of worship the one He created the day after He created man. Let's get this Christianity started right.
All Bible Christians Jews and Gentiles had Christ in their hearts or Jesus as their rest as you put it but they still kept Yahweh's holy 7th day sabbath.He might have been tent making and traveling long journeys on Sunday but never on God's holy Sabbath. Let's follow their Christian example. Sunday keeping Christians didn't even start till a hundred maybe even two hundred years after the last apostle died.
Glorydaz my brother and the rest of the 9commandment only Christians. I am not judging you.
Christ said in His great commision for us to teach everyone all the things which He commanded us so I am not judging you by fulfilling the great commission.
Not only did Jesus teach us to keep the Sabbath but He taught us how by His own example."it is lawful to do well on the sabbath."Matthew 12:12 Might I add "it is not lawful to ignore Christ's Sabbath that He created for you at the beginning of the world"
 
I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;
[4] And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

[5] Because that Abraham obeyed [[my voice]], and kept my charge, [[my commandments, my statutes, and my laws]].

This was Isaac & long before the Jews came on the scene! Abe was even a tithe payer.

--Elijah
 
The eternal law of God was written on the hearts of man...our conscience.

No holy men of god kept the Sabbath before it was given to Moses.

The Sabbath was given to the Children of Israel...plain and simple.

The children of the promise have found their rest in Jesus Christ.
Now every single day is our Sabbath rest. :amen
 
Elijah674 said:
I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;
[4] And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

[5] Because that Abraham obeyed [[my voice]], and kept my charge, [[my commandments, my statutes, and my laws]].

This was Isaac & long before the Jews came on the scene! Abe was even a tithe payer.

--Elijah

PS: I suggest that you go back to Gen. 1 & reread! Then this Gen. 26:5 here again for WHY GOD CALLED ABE in the first place!
 
I'm not going say one isn't saved if they don't follow the Sabbath as others may suggest nor am I going to say those that do feel the Sabbath should be followed to the letter follow some kind of works related belief system since it seems both have been pretty much debated already.
I do know that following "The Law" as the Pharisees did really didn't get them anywhere as Christ pointed out several times under no uncertain terms.
I would ask though what they missed and/or where did they go astray? Were they not condemning others for not doing as they did?
 
Rick W said:
I'm not going say one isn't saved if they don't follow the Sabbath as others may suggest nor am I going to say those that do feel the Sabbath should be followed to the letter follow some kind of works related belief system since it seems both have been pretty much debated already.
I do know that following "The Law" as the Pharisees did really didn't get them anywhere as Christ pointed out several times under no uncertain terms.
I would ask though what they missed and/or where did they go astray? Were they not condemning others for not doing as they did?

It does seem as though those who follow the law are the ones who are ever pointing fingers at those who have been freed from the bondage of the law. We're to walk in liberty...not bondage. God puts a desire in our hearts to hear His voice, and that's why we are free from all the regulations that came before. That's the point of the new and better Covenant. We each walk in the light given us by the Holy Spirit...we're of the free woman not the bond woman. :amen
 
Rick W said:
I'm not going say one isn't saved if they don't follow the Sabbath as others may suggest nor am I going to say those that do feel the Sabbath should be followed to the letter follow some kind of works related belief system since it seems both have been pretty much debated already.
I do know that following "The Law" as the Pharisees did really didn't get them anywhere as Christ pointed out several times under no uncertain terms.
I would ask though what they missed and/or where did they go astray? Were they not condemning others for not doing as they did?

Their problem was their [BORN AGAIN] Motive was missing. (or else went past Heb. 6:6) It takes both to be [IN CHRIST] Rom. 8:1 Christ comes FIRST & them ones LOVING WORKS BORN AGAIN WORKS OF OBEDIENCE. Acts 5:32

There is NO such thing of one Loving Christ without Obeying His Inspired Word. (Matt. 4:4.. ALL OF IT! 2 Tim. 3:16) And with the same understanding, there is NO OBEDIENCE without Christ being number one in ones life!

Tell me how one could love Christ, without keeping His REQUIRED 7th Day Sabbath, other than in just professing such?????????

--Elijah
 
Ok, so you're saying one isn't saved without strict observance of the Sabbath?
 
Elijah674 said:
Tell me how one could love Christ, without keeping His REQUIRED 7th Day Sabbath, other than in just professing such?????????

--Elijah

Well, I keep it every day by physically stepping away from situations where I normally could "sort it out" myself and then trusting that God will sort it out for me according to His promise. I am still learning how to walk in this, because its a rather new concept for me.But I slowly started to understand what God meant by His "Rest".
He wants us to rest from always running to others for help when we should be "weak in the flesh" and rather pray and ask Him to sort it out. The Bible says Php 4:19 And my God shall supply every need of yours according to his riches in glory in Christ Jesus. OK, so that is a promise !

I started going out on a limb on this and started trusting God for things, that I normally would have picked up the phone for. I could either call an electrician when I have a powercut (like this week) , or pray and receive. The latter is more difficult than the phone call. Sometimes I still make the call , but this week I prayed and kept on "resting" and lo and behold: The Lord came through for me and the power came back on. Then He showed me the problem (my one pump had a short) Ha. I was so blessed.

I must just tell you also. The other day I was SO blessed as well. I live out in the sticks far away from the city. So when the water-pipe to my house burst on a Saturday morning I was absolutely lost for help. No plumber would come out to me on a Saturday and at what price ! As I stood there in the road looking at the water pumping out of the ground, a car pulled up and a guy got out whom I have never seen before. He said : "Hi, I am a plumber and your neighbor sent me, because apparently you have a burst pipe" (LOL How did the neighbor.....whom I have never met......know about my problems ? ) well, he just happened to have the right pipe on him and he fixed it. Charged me $20 LOL and off he went. God is wonderful and we can REST in Him every day.

Since then He has been showing me how when I Sabbath in Him, He will come through for me every time. There is actually nothing that He cannot fix, or repair, or supply when we just rest and believe the promise. Ha, what fun it is to serve Him. Every day is like an adventure.
 
If I don't keep the Sabbath as some suggest then I don't love Christ?
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There's the difference between you and I Elijah674. I can't judge whether someone loves Christ or not. I don't have that power nor the authority to make such a claim. Who loves Christ and who doesn't is a relationship solely between the Savior and them. Christ only will judge whether He knows them or not... not you, not me or anyone drawing breathe for that matter.
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Rick W said:
If I don't keep the Sabbath as some suggest then I don't love Christ?
:chin

There's the difference between you and I Elijah674. I can't judge whether someone loves Christ or not. I don't have that power nor the authority to make such a claim. Who loves Christ and who doesn't is a relationship solely between the Savior and them. Christ only will judge whether He knows them or not... not you, not me or anyone drawing breathe for that matter.
:shrug


You are right :)

Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest the servant of another? to his own lord he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be made to stand; for the Lord hath power to make him stand.
 
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