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BELIEVE.....God's Prophets !

Well so far it has been pretty well established that Ellen G white, Joseph Smith, and the Whatchtower foundation is a FALSE PROPHET.
 
Gabbylittleangel said:
And how is that working out for you? :-D
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I haven't found anyone who truely wants to know.

They want to keep saying that I follow a 'false' prophet.
But, how can anyone know what a false prophet is, unless they understand what a true prophet is first, right ?
 
Jay T said:
I haven't found anyone who truely wants to know.

They want to keep saying that I follow a 'false' prophet.
But, how can anyone know what a false prophet is, unless they understand what a true prophet is first, right ?
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Good point!

Here is the job description of a true prophet.

Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

And I believe that this is one of the few examples of a prophet being called by the Lord.

Jer 1:4-5 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, [and] I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Jer 1:6 Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I [am] a child.

Jer 1:7 But the LORD said unto me, Say not, I [am] a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.

Jer 1:8 Be not afraid of their faces: for I [am] with thee to deliver thee, saith the LORD.

Jer 1:9 Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.

Jer 1:10 See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.


I believe that the problem that many people have is that people believe that prophets are perfect. When God tells them to speak, they simply speak. When people read about prophets, they believe that they have something extra from God that keeps them from being less than perfect. Hen the humanity of a prophet is seen, the gift of the Spirit is questioned.

I have this silly picture in my mind from "Monty Python and the Holy Grail". All of the peasants and servants were covered in mud, while King Author, who walked through the same places as the peasants, walked through without ever getting mud on him. It just does not happen that way.

Remember Elijah


Mat 10:41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

What do you suppose a prophet's reward is?


Here are a couple more verses that describe some characteristics of a prophet.

Jhn 4:44 For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country.

Luk 13:33 Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the [day] following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
 
mutzrein said:
Take your pick.

Acts 13:1 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.
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Which ones were the prophets and which ones were the teachers?
 
Little Angel
Had you not skimmed the surface of my post you will see that you are in error as to what I said.
 
mutzrein said:
That's why I said take your pick - both are obviously amongst them. Isn't that the point?
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Again my question was to "Name a prophet in the New Testament after Jesus ascended into heaven".

You can or cannot select which ones are prophets and which ones are teachers? If not, then prophets obviously do not hold the same role and position as the prophets did in the era of the Old Covenant.

Can you name one prophet in the New Testament after Jesus ascended?
 
jgredline said:
Little Angel
Had you not skimmed the surface of my post you will see that you are in error as to what I said.
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It sounds as if you were insulted. That was not my intention.

When I log on to 123 Christian Forums, and click on "View post since your last visit" just using today for an example, there are 41 different forums listed that I can choose from. When I choose this one, there could be several pages of reading. When the topic is not something that catches my attention, such as the way this one started out, then I 'skim' over them, and move on to one of the other 40 or so topics.
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Please feel free to pin point things for me that you feel are relevant to the turn that the discussion took. Or possibly you could tell me which one of the six pages I should look. The statement that "there are no prophets" followed by your agreement, seemed to stand alone to me. I apologize if I took it wrong.
 
jgredline said:
Little Angel
Had you not skimmed the surface of my post you will see that you are in error as to what I said.
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Mutz,
You read more gooder than me.

If you find what I missed, let me know. Apparently you also believe that in the 2000 years since Jesus walked the earth that there were, are, and will continue to be prophets. (As in more than the 2 referenced in Rev. 11)
 
Gabbylittleangel said:
Mutz,
You read more gooder than me.

If you find what I missed, let me know. Apparently you also believe that in the 2000 years since Jesus walked the earth that there were, are, and will continue to be prophets. (As in more than the 2 referenced in Rev. 11)
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Little angel
Can you prove that there have been prophets come from God since the book of revelation has been finished.....surely with nearly 2000 years since the book was written you can come up with one true prophet right?....
 
Is a prophet not also human with human failings ...? Just a question.
 
SputnikBoy said:
Is a prophet not also human with human failings ...? Just a question.
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Hi Sput
If the prophet is sent from God, the prophect will come to pass. In otherwords there will be no failed prophecies like Joseph Smith for example....
 
Ahh man! You got me on the 'name one' thing.

To be quiet honest, I could not prove here in this forum that postal carriers exist. I can't name a single one.

I was thinking that we were trying to establish with Scripture that there is such a thing as prophets. I posted some verses that say that they do. Somehow I see two different issues here. One: Is there such a thing as prophets; and two name them. I was addressing the first. I posted Scriptures that support that.

I gave a few examples of prophesies that I have heard in the past fifteen years or so (Without documentation) simply because I could remember hearing the prophesies and seeing them come to pass. I hate having to make this statement, but take it or leave it. That is all I got for ya.

I don't understand the seeking of a prophet. It is a bit like receiving a letter from the Mayor and asking for details about the postman.

My experience in forums is that posting the name of anyone for any reason is going to make a target out of them. It is to put them under a magnifying glass so that they can be dissected by anyone that wants to rip them apart. I can not in good conscience do that to those that I am unsure of. I certainly would not do that to anyone that I knew to be a true prophet. Typically it is God's own people that stone the prophets.

I'm not saying that you would pick up a hand full of rocks, but certainly someone would. In light of the following verses, I would not do that to anyone.

Mat 10:25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more [shall they call] them of his household?

Mat 26:67-68 Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote [him] with the palms of their hands, Saying, Prophesy unto us, thou Christ, Who is he that smote thee?
 
Is ‘prophesying’ all that a prophet does? Is a prophet supposed to be a ‘little unerring Jesus’ or are they still human beings with human failings? Was ANYTHING Ellen White stood for, for instance, of God? Or, do some of her human failings merely qualify her to the eternal scrapheap ...don't pass 'Go', don't collect $200.00?
 
SputnikBoy said:
Is a prophet not also human with human failings ...? Just a question.
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yep.

That is the sort of stuff that keeps them humble. God can pick up the scum of the earth, save them and make a prophet out of them. They can stutter like Moses, be sarcastic like Elijah, be a warrior/ King/ murder/ adulterer like David.

What makes a true prophet is that God tells them to say something and they say it.
 
Gabbylittleangel said:
yep.

That is the sort of stuff that keeps them humble. God can pick up the scum of the earth, save them and make a prophet out of them. They can stutter like Moses, be sarcastic like Elijah, be a warrior/ King/ murder/ adulterer like David.

What makes a true prophet is that God tells them to say something and they say it.
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Gabby
you have had AUDIABLE converstaions with God right? What does his voice sound like?
 
Gabbylittleangel said:
yep.

That is the sort of stuff that keeps them humble. God can pick up the scum of the earth, save them and make a prophet out of them. They can stutter like Moses, be sarcastic like Elijah, be a warrior/ King/ murder/ adulterer like David.

What makes a true prophet is that God tells them to say something and they say it.
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Gabby
you have had AUDIABLE converstaions with God right? What does his voice sound like?
 
jgredline said:
Hi Sput
If the prophet is sent from God, the prophect will come to pass. In otherwords there will be no failed prophecies like Joseph Smith for example....
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Do you consider yourself a prophet at times, jg? Isn't there more to being a prophet than (merely) 'prophesying' events and such? If so, would Ellen White be considered a prophet of God? If not, why not? Did she not preach Jesus and Him alone? Is this not the best prerequisite for determining who is and who is not a prophet?
 
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