GodsGrace
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Isn't he saying what I've been saying all along?
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Runmyramble
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Recall how the pharasees came to John to get Baptized by Him...
But John called them a brood of vipers, for maybe they thought because they were of Abraham's physical seed they had it made.
He told them to bring forth fruit of repentance....what is it that would show they had a change of heart..was how they lived. Therefore they needed to re think their thinking
Runmyramble
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GodsGrace
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I thought so.I was just ...putting in my 2 cents...
to add your wonderful words...
Just wanted to make sure.
What do you think about making up a brand new word to replace Repent.
And then use Repent to mean: sorry for
??
I feel like this is a losing battle !
GodsGrace
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It won't open.
What does it say?
I thought we met Cornelius with testimony of praise by Jewish friends, and describing the works of the law (the giving of alms and prayer).
eddif
GodsGrace
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Are you serious?
GodsGrace
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Yes. He was praised and doing what he believed to be right.
I don't believe giving and praying is the law.
Most certainly I am serious.
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GodsGrace
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Jesus is the message. Your signature.
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Good chance you are saying what he says without thinking or listening to any other people.
You are among a diverse group on this site. You should check us all out by reading the scriptures.
The Word became flesh (Jesus ) so what he says is the Word.
Jesus ( the second Adam) became a quickening spirit. You should hear that spirit in posters that have invited him into their lives.
While I do not promote wild theology ( you may think I do) I do at times hear truth in the strangest places.
Branch Davidian
Mormon
Sometimes just a small statement like the high priest talking about (one dying for sins).
Rat bait does have food to attract rats, but it is ultimately designed to kill. The letters to the churches are full of warnings, to some churches. Praise to others. Discernment of spirits is a gift of the Holy Spirit.
Was that English?
I thought Runmyramble did a fair job. We are trying to not be cruel and hopefully show love.
eddif
Actually turning from wicked ways and prayer. Under the law.
Is it a bad thing to know the law? No. The law is not for eternal life though, but had benefits as a type and shadow of
better things to come.
There is a new and better covenant.
Acts 10:6 kjv
6.
He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do
Now honestly all manuscripts do not contain ( he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do).
But the message of Peter IMHO tells of Jesus and is new covenant kingdom stuff.
John the Baptist taught repentance
And
Believe in the one who comes after me. I could post the scripture, but at some point you may need to search out this on your own.
eddif
I think the pre-water baptism giving of the Holy Ghost to Cornelius and his friends was a one-time event intended to convince the Jews that God had indeed accepted the Gentiles as well as the Jews.
The Jews had many washings as
ceremonies that we miss understanding. (Lavers)
More and more I believe that immersion in thoughts is really the ultimate reality or truth.
The tree planted on either side of the river clear as crystal sure looks like the cerebellum. Paul was glad he had not baptized a lot of people, but he sure taught a lot of information. That information immerses our thoughts in God. Does the Bible say that? No. Does our created anatomy made in the image of God seem to say this? I would say yes, but that is just a redneck.
Greek writings extend baptism to a lot of areas.
eddif
Paul was glad he had not baptised many, because people boasted they had been baptised by such and such a person in a snobbish attempt at one-upmanship. "My baptism was better than yours."
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I dont agree. You said this…
“I do agree that it makes being saved MUCH EASIER if someone has heard the gospel.
This is also true about Jesus.
But GOD FATHER can be known only from His creation, as is stated in Romans.”
You just sated above that people can be saved by “knowing God only from his creation”.
Just “knowing God from His creation” saves NOONE.
yes. But why would salvation be easier if someone has heard the gospel. If you can be saved without hearing It then what does it matter?
Thats not true. The Bible plainly says… they would ”hear words by which they would be saved”. Why be told to call for a preacher? Why be told that you will hear words for salvation if you are already saved?
I’m going to assume you are an adult female. If so then reading comprehension should not be that hard for you. If someone says….You will hear words by which you will be saved”. Does this mean they are already saved? OR does it mean they shall be saved after they hear the words of salvation? How can you say that Cornelius was “saved” and that this is common knowledge? Its only common knowledge to people who have know knowledge of what the Bible actually says.
Ok maybe reading comprehension is a problem for you. The angel tells Cornelius to send for a preacher who will tell them words for them to be saved (“shall be saved”) doesn’t sound like he’s saved, but according to you and common knowledge, Cornelius is already saved so this whole exercise is meaningless. Yes. I see your point. Im amazed at the power of the Bible to blind the most intelligent of people. But we know where that will end up…
Mat 15:13,14. But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
Thats a pretty shallow argument. Heres your reasoning……There was no Bible around for Abraham, even though God spoke directly to him, so therefore we dont need a Bible today to be pleasing to God even though God DOES NOT now speak directly to us. God now speaks to us through his word he has left us. If Abraham would have had a Bible he too would have been accountable to it. Were the Israelites accountable to their written law? Most definitely.
I will say you are thinking this all through. I believe there is a scripture that all must look at and decide what it is saying.
I have a 20 year agony with how to rate / deal with / understand / explain / reconcile / the statement and the author of this scripture. Only the last 5 years have I gotten IMHO close enough to start a conversation with others.
According to who or what is your base of understanding, causes agreement or opposition.
At the end of discussion, we still may have to say we partially still see through a glass darkly.
The scripture is:
Job 32:8. Kjv
8. But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.
I could lay a framework,
And try and dominate this discussion, and I may push pretty hard. This site wants us to value others statements, so if you have opinions we can begin.
The first word in the OP is Jesus.
To me this is the foundation area that allows discussion
Mississippi redneck
eddif