stovebolts
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I understand, and I agree.Stove, I think you’re looking at this theologically. I’m looking at it practically. I see an incongruence with a man becoming a christian and making a living by being a criminal. (I do take the description as is, he was a thief, and he even admitted that he deserved his punishment.) There is a difference between not being sinless (the general population if not all
of us) and making a living through criminal activity (not the general population.) That’s all I meant. It’s hard to imagine him being a part of a group of believers and when the men exchange their job titles he casually mentions that he’s a thief. (Of course thieves don’t admit publicly their professional pursuits but it means they add lying to their list of affronts to God and man.)
What I wish to highlight is this. Sometimes titles in our Bibles can be misleading. Nowhere in scripture itself is this man labeled a thief other than what has been added as a title which has been preached from the pulpit.
I know you’ve done some research on crucifixion, so I will assume your aware that it was used primarily for slaves and Enemies of the State. Many Jewish zealots were crucified and these crucifixions increased to 70 ad. Don’t forget that Jesus picked a zealot among his 12.
So this idea that the criminal was a thief who makes a living out of stealing comes from a larger distorted theological view which derives more from the shallow doctrines of men than it does historical evidence. These shallow doctrines want us to believe the man on the cross was a vile thief of the most wretched type who suddenly sees the light and has some sort of death bed confession. Balderdash I say. Balderdash.
Zealots knew the penalty for their destructive actions against Rome. They knew they “deserved” their punishment.
Quick question for you Dorthy. Are YOU willing to pick up your cross and follow Jesus? Or is that hyperbole?
Bottom line, I do not believe the criminal made a living stealing for a living. These types of criminals were punished in other ways such as flogging or jail time. Again, crucifixion was primarily used on slaves and enemies of the state, not a common thief.