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[Randy]

Thanks, but the OP'er already replied.
He thought John was wasting his time, just like you seem to think.
I can't agree.

Johns purpose BY Gods will as stated by his father

And you, my child, will be called a prophet of the Most High;
for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for him,
77 to give his people the knowledge of salvation
through the forgiveness of their sins,
78 because of the tender mercy of our God,
by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven
79 to shine on those living in darkness
and in the shadow of death,
to guide our feet into the path of peace.”

I see the baptism of repentance as prep work for the one who can remove sin -Christ Jesus (not a waste of time)

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[JLB]

Yes, if they will get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.
From there on, they are able to walk in the light.
Of course further sins reveal they didn't repent of sin at all, so the whole confession was a sham.

Unbelievers need to get baptized.

Here is the question I asked (emphasis added)

Question:

If a Christian (a born again baptized Christian) confesses his or her sin, will God forgive them and cleanse them of all unrighteousness?


If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
1 John 1:9-10


Yes?
No?
Don’t know?





JLB

 

[Hopeful]

This post requires a question.
But, Hopeful, you know I'm not going there.
But you know I respect that you are able to keep God's teachings 100%.

There is always P.M.ing.
Respect the God that made it possible, not me.

 

[Hopeful]

Johns purpose BY Gods will as stated by his father

And you, my child, will be called a prophet of the Most High;
for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for him,
77 to give his people the knowledge of salvation
through the forgiveness of their sins,
78 because of the tender mercy of our God,
by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven
79 to shine on those living in darkness
and in the shadow of death,
to guide our feet into the path of peace.”

I see the baptism of repentance as prep work for the one who can remove sin -Christ Jesus (not a waste of time)

As John's "audience" were those seeking remission/forgiveness of sins, verse 77 above, in order to serve God, (what other reason could there be but that?), the arrival of the Christ fulfilled his mission.
Certainly not a waste of time to me either.
But it was still a baptism where sins were remitted.

 

[Hopeful]

Unbelievers need to get baptized.

Are not all the disobedient "unbelievers"?
They obviously don't believe that God is going to send them to a fiery lake for eternity for their unbelief/disobedience.

Here is the question I asked (emphasis added)
Question:
If a Christian (a born again baptized Christian) confesses his or her sin, will God forgive them and cleanse them of all unrighteousness?

Can you show a biblical incident where that ever happened?

If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
1 John 1:9-10

Verses 6, 8, and 10 apply to those walking in sin, darkness. (Pro 4:19)
Verse 9 is an avenue of escape from the darkness and into the light...which is God.

 

[GodsGrace]

There is always P.M.ing.
Respect the God that made it possible, not me.

I respect you because I really don't know anyone that is perfect.

And I know a couple of really good Christian's.

 

[JLB]

Can you show a biblical incident where that ever happened?

Instruction to the Church from John —


If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9


From James —

Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin. James 4:17

Surely every Christian is guilty of this one throughout our life —

Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing psalms. Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. James 5:13-16


If he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.


Based on the above mentioned scriptures, do you believe If a Christian (a born again baptized Christian) confesses his or her sin, will God forgive them and cleanse them of all unrighteousness?


If you don’t know just say so?



JLB

 

[Hopeful]

I respect you because I really don't know anyone that is perfect.

And I know a couple of really good Christian's.

A "couple"?
Aren't we all to walk as Christ walked? (Rom 6:4, Eph 5:2, Col 2:6, 1 John 1:7)

 

[Dorothy Mae]

This post requires a question.
But, Hopeful, you know I'm not going there.
But you know I respect that you are able to keep God's teachings 100%.

Whether God thinks he keeps them 100% is an entirely different matter.

 

[Runmyramble]

In Col 1:20 it would be the person of the Father was pleased to reconcile to Himself through Jesus by the blood shed on the cross. Not John's baptism. John wasn't sent to forgive sin. He was sent to prepare the people for Jesus.

Agreed.
If someone believes in someone, they will tend to follow that person.
Even more so if that person is God.
Believe definitely means to intend to follow.
Matthew 16:24
24Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me.


This confuses me a little.
Man is justified when he comes to believe there is a God and that he wishes to serve that God.
Is this an intent, a motive?
I think it could be. Or maybe, it should be.

God is always faithful to us...we have a God that keeps His promises.
To say that God moves people to act is what I don't understand very well.
If by move, you mean inspires, then I agree.
If by move, you mean, that He CAUSES us to act, then I have a problem agreeing.
Why?
Because if we put on God the responsibility of CAUSING us to act...
then we have to also blame Him when we do not respond properly.
I do believe God inspires us and that it is on us to obey Him or not.



LOL
Yes. God sees the heart. This is why we can judge someone's behavior, but not their standing with God...
(some do like to judge others' souls).


Amen to that.

This confuses me a little.
Man is justified when he comes to believe there is a God and that he wishes to serve that God.
Is this an intent, a motive?
I think it could be. Or maybe, it should be.

God is always faithful to us...we have a God that keeps His promises.
To say that God moves people to act is what I don't understand very well.
If by move, you mean inspires, then I agree.

Read >Romans 3; 12-13
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.........

Why?
Because if we put on God the responsibility of CAUSING us to act...
then we have to also blame Him when we do not respond properly.
I do believe God inspires us and that it is on us to obey Him or not.

Romans 2:4
Or despisest thou the riches of His goodness and forbearance and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

Now...I'll add my 2 cents

It is God who introduces His son
God that sent His son to die
God that did miracles through His son
God that through the prophets spoke of His son.......

Can one be moved by those facts?

I do not think we are robots...but God can appeal to our senses He created. To appeal means He is behind it....Also He is the author and finisher of our faith.

When a man chases a woman and takes her out, shows that He is there for her in times of need, continues to respect her, is appealing to her eyes, treats her children as if they were her own.....whose behind her Love she has for Him?....she still has a choice to open herself up to allow this and receive Him...right?

So then too, you can reject His acts of kindness ........He is not the cause of your rejection.......You may like where you are in anothers eyes, and the position and immediate gratification you've been use too....

 

[Hopeful]

Whether God thinks he keeps them 100% is an entirely different matter.

That is why I watch my "P"s and "Q"s carefully.
Like Paul, "I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway." (1 Cor 9:27)
I take special solace in 1 Cor 10:13..."There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."
Thank you God for such comfort !!!

 

[Runmyramble]

If a Christian confess his or her sin, will God forgive them and cleanse them of all unrighteousness?


If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.
1 John 1:9-10



JLB

What is the diff between profession and confession

 

[jerry63935]

What is the diff between profession and confession

profession is who/what we are born again Christians /testimony confession depends on how we use it could be we say we are born again Christians imo

 

[Dorothy Mae]

That is why I watch my "P"s and "Q"s carefully.
Like Paul, "I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway." (1 Cor 9:27)
I take special solace in 1 Cor 10:13..."There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."
Thank you God for such comfort !!!

That’s still you evaluating (and thanking God for your moral perfection) you.

 

[Hopeful]

That’s still you evaluating (and thanking God for your moral perfection) you.

Yes, Paul and I thinking the same thoughts.
Is there something wrong with that?
Don't you thank God "for such comfort"?

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Yes, Paul and I thinking the same thoughts.

I see no match between you and Paul’s writings.

Is there something wrong with that?
Don't you thank God "for such comfort"?

It sounds too much like the man who prayed thanking God he wasn’t like the tax collector.

 

[Hopeful]

I see no match between you and Paul’s writings.

Even though Paul's and my own thoughts mirrored each other?
You seem to just not want to see it.

It sounds too much like the man who prayed thanking God he wasn’t like the tax collector.

I will repeat it here for your reconsideration...
"I take special solace in 1 Cor 10:13..."There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."
Thank you God for such comfort !!!"
If quoting a scripture and thanking God for it troubles you, I fail to understand your POV.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Even though Paul's and my own thoughts mirrored each other?
You seem to just not want to see it.

Where did Paul write that he is personally perfect and free from all
sins?

I will repeat it here for your reconsideration...
"I take special solace in 1 Cor 10:13..."There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."

That’s my dating you personally are therefore now sinless. It says He’s done his part. You need to do your part. “Escape” requires you to move, not have something removed.

Thank you God for such comfort !!!"
If quoting a scripture and thanking God for it troubles you, I fail to understand your POV.

Paul didn’t thank God that he was now sinless.

 

[Runmyramble]

profession is who/what we are born again Christians /testimony confession depends on how we use it could be we say we are born again Christians imo

Confession to own up to the condition of one's soul. DW

 

[jerry63935]

Confession to own up to the condition of one's soul. DW

yes