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No your doctrine of “faith alone” is the lie

What Does “Sola Fide” Mean?

In 1571, Queen Elizabeth I’s Reformed Church of England adopted its Thirty-Nine Articles of Religion. Article 11 made its Protestant credentials clear on the doctrine of justification:
We are accounted righteous before God, only for the merit of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ by faith, and not for our own works or deservings. Wherefore that we are justified by faith only is a most wholesome doctrine, and very full of comfort; as more largely is expressed in the Homily of Justification.

What does that phrase “faith alone,” or, sola fide, mean? To understand this is “wholesome” or beneficial to our spiritual health and well-being. It’s also “very full of comfort” to us in our spiritual struggles.

How Can Sinners be Righteous?​

First, we’re speaking of “faith alone” in relation to the doctrine of justification, which is that “we are accounted righteous before God.” How can we—sinners—be righteous before God, who is sinless and holy? This is one of the most ancient questions: “Can mortal man be in the right before God? Can a man be pure before his Maker?” (Job 4:17). After all, the Apostle Paul later declared this universal truth: “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Rom. 3:23). The way sinners like you and me can be righteous before God is “imputation,” meaning, “we are accounted righteous before God” by God Himself!

The Merit of Jesus Christ​

Second, how is it possible for a holy and righteous God to “account” us sinners as righteous? He can’t just sweep our sins under the rug and forget that they’re there, like a child cleans his or her room. He’s holy, just, and righteous; sin must be punished. The basis upon which God can make such a declaration is “only for [because of] the merit of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.” He fulfilled for us the law that we have broken; He shed His most precious blood to make a sacrifice and satisfaction for us; He turned away God’s wrath and indignation against us. In His infinite wisdom, God’s justice and mercy met on the cross of Christ. There, His justice condemned His own Son so that He won’t condemn us. There, His mercy delivered us from His wrath.

Thus we have been “justified by his grace as a gift” because “through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus . . . God put [him] forward as a propitiation by his blood . . . to show God’s righteousness . . . that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus” (Rom. 3:23–26). To state in the negative how our holy and righteous God can “account” us sinners as righteous, it is “not for [because of] our own works or deservings.” We cannot be justified by our own works (Gal. 2:16). In the words of the homily mentioned above, “although this justification be free unto us, yet it cometh not so freely unto us, that there is no ransom paid therefore at all.”

Confidence and Comfort​

Third, it is “by faith,” or more precisely, “by faith only,” that we receive God’s declaration about us on the basis of Christ’s righteousness. Faith receives Christ. It is the means by which we are justified; it’s not the reason why: Jesus is. Thus true, justifying faith not only believes Holy Scripture and all its doctrines, but even more, it is “also to have a sure trust and confidence in God’s merciful promises.” (Thomas Cranmer) In other words, faith is not merely knowledge nor even assent to that knowledge. The demons have this “faith” (James 2:19). This kind of “faith” allows you to still wallow in your sins:
For how can a man have this true faith, this sure trust and confidence in God, that by the merits of Christ, his sins be forgiven, and be reconciled to the favor of God, and to be partaker of the kingdom of heaven by Christ, when he lives ungodly, and denieth Christ in his deeds?”
- Thomas Cranmer, “A Sermon of the Salvation of Mankind by Only Christ Our Saviour, From Sin and Death Everlasting,”

This is why we as Protestants always need to assert that justification by faith alone doesn’t mean that this justifying faith lives alone in us without true repentance, hope, love, and the fear of God. Yet, as far as our being accounted righteous before God by God, sola fide means God graciously justified us apart from our works.

The “what” of sola fide leads to “why” it matters. Remember, it is “wholesome” and “very full of comfort.” The profit of this doctrine “advances and sets forth the true glory of Christ, and beats down the vain glory of man.” When you and I consider the infinite gifts that God gives, though we are undeserving, we are led to drop to our knees in humble adoration! Justification sola fide does not lead the true believer into spiritual slothfulness, but
to render ourselves unto God wholly with all our will, hearts, might, and power; to serve him in all good deeds, obeying his commandments during our lives; to seek in all things his glory and honour, not our sensual pleasures and vainglory; evermore dreading willingly to offend such a merciful God and loving Redeemer in word, thought, or deed . . . [to] move us for his sake also to be ever ready to give ourselves to our neighbours, and, as much as lieth in us, to study with all our endeavor, to do good to every man. These be the fruits of true faith: to do good, as much as lieth in us, to every man; and, above all things and in all things, to advance the glory of God, of whom only we have our sanctification, justification, salvation, and redemption. To whom be ever glory, praise, and honour world without end. Amen.
- Thomas Cranmer, “A Sermon of the Salvation of Mankind by Only Christ Our Saviour, From Sin and Death Everlasting,”
 

What Does “Sola Fide” Mean?

In 1571, Queen Elizabeth I’s Reformed Church of England adopted its Thirty-Nine Articles of Religion. Article 11 made its Protestant credentials clear on the doctrine of justification:


What does that phrase “faith alone,” or, sola fide, mean? To understand this is “wholesome” or beneficial to our spiritual health and well-being. It’s also “very full of comfort” to us in our spiritual struggles.

How Can Sinners be Righteous?​

First, we’re speaking of “faith alone” in relation to the doctrine of justification, which is that “we are accounted righteous before God.” How can we—sinners—be righteous before God, who is sinless and holy? This is one of the most ancient questions: “Can mortal man be in the right before God? Can a man be pure before his Maker?” (Job 4:17). After all, the Apostle Paul later declared this universal truth: “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Rom. 3:23). The way sinners like you and me can be righteous before God is “imputation,” meaning, “we are accounted righteous before God” by God Himself!

The Merit of Jesus Christ​

Second, how is it possible for a holy and righteous God to “account” us sinners as righteous? He can’t just sweep our sins under the rug and forget that they’re there, like a child cleans his or her room. He’s holy, just, and righteous; sin must be punished. The basis upon which God can make such a declaration is “only for [because of] the merit of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.” He fulfilled for us the law that we have broken; He shed His most precious blood to make a sacrifice and satisfaction for us; He turned away God’s wrath and indignation against us. In His infinite wisdom, God’s justice and mercy met on the cross of Christ. There, His justice condemned His own Son so that He won’t condemn us. There, His mercy delivered us from His wrath.

Thus we have been “justified by his grace as a gift” because “through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus . . . God put [him] forward as a propitiation by his blood . . . to show God’s righteousness . . . that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus” (Rom. 3:23–26). To state in the negative how our holy and righteous God can “account” us sinners as righteous, it is “not for [because of] our own works or deservings.” We cannot be justified by our own works (Gal. 2:16). In the words of the homily mentioned above, “although this justification be free unto us, yet it cometh not so freely unto us, that there is no ransom paid therefore at all.”

Confidence and Comfort​

Third, it is “by faith,” or more precisely, “by faith only,” that we receive God’s declaration about us on the basis of Christ’s righteousness. Faith receives Christ. It is the means by which we are justified; it’s not the reason why: Jesus is. Thus true, justifying faith not only believes Holy Scripture and all its doctrines, but even more, it is “also to have a sure trust and confidence in God’s merciful promises.” (Thomas Cranmer) In other words, faith is not merely knowledge nor even assent to that knowledge. The demons have this “faith” (James 2:19). This kind of “faith” allows you to still wallow in your sins:


This is why we as Protestants always need to assert that justification by faith alone doesn’t mean that this justifying faith lives alone in us without true repentance, hope, love, and the fear of God. Yet, as far as our being accounted righteous before God by God, sola fide means God graciously justified us apart from our works.

The “what” of sola fide leads to “why” it matters. Remember, it is “wholesome” and “very full of comfort.” The profit of this doctrine “advances and sets forth the true glory of Christ, and beats down the vain glory of man.” When you and I consider the infinite gifts that God gives, though we are undeserving, we are led to drop to our knees in humble adoration! Justification sola fide does not lead the true believer into spiritual slothfulness, but
Then your not really holy or righteous that make God a party to a lie or injustice
 
Then your not really holy or righteous that make God a party to a lie or injustice
It comes as a surprise to you that human beings are not innately "holy or righteous" based on our actions or innate merit? (Have you ever met another person?)
  • [Mark 10:18 NASB20] 18 But Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.
  • [Luke 18:19 NASB20] 19 But Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.
    • What was the point Jesus was making?

  • [Romans 3:9-12 NASB20] 9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin; 10 as it is written: "THERE IS NO RIGHTEOUS PERSON, NOT EVEN ONE; 11 THERE IS NO ONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NO ONE WHO SEEKS OUT GOD; 12 THEY HAVE ALL TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME CORRUPT; THERE IS NO ONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE."
    • What was the point Paul was making?

  • [1 John 1:5-10 NASB20] 5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and [yet] walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; 7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous, so that He will forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.
    • What was the point John was making?

They were all making THIS point ...

Ephesians 2:1-10 [NLT]
Once you were dead because of your disobedience and your many sins. You used to live in sin, just like the rest of the world, obeying the devil—the commander of the powers in the unseen world. He is the spirit at work in the hearts of those who refuse to obey God. All of us used to live that way, following the passionate desires and inclinations of our sinful nature. By our very nature we were subject to God’s anger, just like everyone else.
But God is so rich in mercy, and he loved us so much, that even though we were dead because of our sins, he gave us life when he raised Christ from the dead. (It is only by God’s grace that you have been saved!) For he raised us from the dead along with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms because we are united with Christ Jesus. So God can point to us in all future ages as examples of the incredible wealth of his grace and kindness toward us, as shown in all he has done for us who are united with Christ Jesus.
God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it. For we are God’s masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so we can do the good things he planned for us long ago.

Not Popes, not Sacraments, not Magestrums, not Clergy vs Laity, not Masses ... it is all about JESUS!

Soli Deo Gloria!​

(All Glory to God Alone!)
 
Scripture Verses that contradict “sola scriptura”!

Matt 5:14
Matt 18:17
Matt 28:19
Lk 1:4
Lk 10:16
Jn 8:32
Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21
Acts 1:8
Acts 2:42
Acts 8:26
Acts 8:31
Acts 18:25
Rom 10:15
1 cor 11:23
1 thes 2:23
2 thes 2:15
Col 2:7
Eph 4:5
Heb 13:7
Heb 13:17
1 Tim 3:15
1 Jn 1:3-5
2 Jn 1:12
Jude 1:3

How can it be said scripture is “sole authority” or the only source of truth or the rule of faith when scripture says we must hear the church Matt 18:17 the apostles are the light of the world Matt 5:14 we must hold the doctrine of the apostles acts 2:42 the church is the pillar and ground of truth 1 Tim 3:15



The doctrine of the “Bible alone” or the “Bible is the only source of authority” excludes the authority of God, Christ, and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, the teaching authority of Christ in his apostolic church and the ministry of Angels!
Acts 8:26
 
Scripture Verses that contradict “sola scriptura”!
No they don't.

The doctrine of the “Bible alone” or the “Bible is the only source of authority” excludes the authority of God, Christ, and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, the teaching authority of Christ in his apostolic church and the ministry of Angels!
Acts 8:26
How long have you been hearing from angels? Have you "tested" these "spirits"? [1 John 4:1]

Any other Solas you want to discuss before I move on to another topic?
 
No they don't.


How long have you been hearing from angels? Have you "tested" these "spirits"? [1 John 4:1]

Any other Solas you want to discuss before I move on to another topic?
What does sola mean if not alone?
 
What does sola mean if not alone?
Are you REALLY ignorant of what was going on in the Protestant Reformation and what the reformers meant by each of the 5 Solas? Here is a hint, THERE ARE 5 SOLAS, so "alone" cannot be talking about what you are attempting to redefine it as.

("ALONE" stands in opposition to our works.)
  • Scripture Alone = God's Words without man's words added.
  • Faith Alone = God given Faith without our righteous works added to save us.
  • Christ Alone = Christ's atonement without our "filthy rags" added to earn forgiveness.
  • Grace Alone = God's gift is unearned, or it is a wage and not a gift.
  • To the Glory of God Alone = We have no cause to BOAST in our salvation, it is from God and by God anf to the glory of God.

Ephesians 2:1-10 is how a Protestant claims to be saved.
How does a Catholic claim to be saved?
 
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Are you REALLY ignorant of what was going on in the Protestant Reformation and what the reformers meant by each of the 5 Solas? Here is a hint, THERE ARE 5 SOLAS, so "alone" cannot be talking about what you are attempting to redefine it as.

("ALONE" stands in opposition to our works.)
  • Scripture Alone = God's Words without man's words added.
  • Faith Alone = God given Faith without our righteous works added to save us.
  • Christ Alone = Christ's atonement without our "filthy rags" added to earn forgiveness.
  • Grace Alone = God's gift is unearned, or it is a wage and not a gift.
  • To the Glory of God Alone = We have no cause to BOAST in our salvation, it is from God and by God anf to the glory of God.

Ephesians 2:1-10 is how a Protestant claims to be saved.
How does a Catholic claim to be saved?
From scripture alone show me the authority to have a reformation?

How can truth or the church be reformed? They are from God and immutable

Why call it a reformation when you abandoned Christ and his one true church to start new ones with new doctrine?

Is The church necessary for salvation?
 
From scripture alone show me the authority to have a reformation?
From the teaching of Scripture and the Early Church Fathers, show me the authority to become an apostate church (selling indulgences) that needs reforming back to what the Apostles commanded?
 
Are you REALLY ignorant of what was going on in the Protestant Reformation and what the reformers meant by each of the 5 Solas? Here is a hint, THERE ARE 5 SOLAS, so "alone" cannot be talking about what you are attempting to redefine it as.

("ALONE" stands in opposition to our works.)
  • Scripture Alone = God's Words without man's words added.
  • Faith Alone = God given Faith without our righteous works added to save us.
  • Christ Alone = Christ's atonement without our "filthy rags" added to earn forgiveness.
  • Grace Alone = God's gift is unearned, or it is a wage and not a gift.
  • To the Glory of God Alone = We have no cause to BOAST in our salvation, it is from God and by God anf to the glory of God.

Ephesians 2:1-10 is how a Protestant claims to be saved.
How does a Catholic claim to be saved?
Greatest is charity 1 cor 13:13
No room in your precious tradition (sola’s) for love of God!

Christ alone is the most useless sola
What other is there
No other savior or sacrifice or source of grace Jn 1:16-17 Jn 1:29

Scripture only authority?
Matt 18:17
Acts 2:42
1 Tim 3:15

Authority other than scripture alone so scripture alone is false doctrine
 
From the teaching of Scripture and the Early Church Fathers, show me the authority to become an apostate church (selling indulgences) that needs reforming back to what the Apostles commanded?
First you would have to have evidence that indulgences have been sold?

The church found by Christ on Peter cannot be apostate Matt 16:18-19 shall not prevail
 
I am sorry you find Christ useless without your works. :shrug
I did not say so and you know it, I said the sola is useless
Our works like faith are in Christ, union with grace members of Christ in the new creation new covenant church
 
Really, a "history is fake" argument?
Then here is something YOU will believe ... QANON told me. :hysterical
Show me this history? Hardly does an anti-Christian statement like “salvation by the shilling” equate to history?
And indulgences have nothing to do with salvation
 
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