Whenever we make anything a must do prior to God saving us, and God saves us because of that we must do ir have done, we automatically forfeit salvation by Grace and come under the opposing view of salvation by works.
If a person says that they were saved after they obeyed, or after they believed, this person is in essence saying, salvation is of myself, of my work, and whether they admit it or not, they have something to boast of. Yet Gods word insists that salvation is the Gift of God, not of man, its not of works lest any man boast Eph 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
It is by grace. But we need to open the door.
Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice
and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.
Jesus waited for Paul to accept even after appointing him.
In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a vision, “Ananias!”
“Yes, Lord,” he answered.
11The Lord told him, “Go to the house of Judas on Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul,
for he is praying. 12In a vision he has seen a man named Ananias come and place his hands on him to restore his sight.”
He
asked and received by grace not works.
Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.
Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
They came to the Lord.
They made a hole in the roof over where Jesus stood. Then they let the bed with the sick man on it down before Jesus. 20 When Jesus
saw their faith, He said to the man, “Friend, your sins are forgiven.”
A choice is made.
When Jesus saw him lying there and learned that he had been in this condition for a long time, he asked him, “
Do you want to get well?
The forgiveness of sins is not by works. But those who listen and learn from the Father choose to go to Jesus.