Coronavirus

[daninthelionsden]

There is a reason the US threatened India with severe economic repercussions if it withheld a massive shipment of Hydroxychloroquine ordered recently. There is also a reason India withheld it on their end. It works and it is an immensely effective tool to not only stop COVID-19 in its track, but to prevent it in the first place. The biggest reason it seems to not work in some patients is either it was given way too late, There were underlying health conditions or the patient couldn't tolerate the drug itself. There are tests and risk factor guides used to determine which candidates will benefit from its use. If anyone wants the real low down on Hydroxychloroquine the go to youtube and type in Hydroxychloroquine or type in the following doctors
Dr. Anthony Cordillo
Dr. Schuelt
Dr. Paul Marik
Dr. Chris Martenson
Dr Oz
Dr. John Campbell
Dr. Shruti
Dr Chiragmadaan
Hydroxychloroquine is in widespread use throughout the world and will soon be in widespread use in America. Once it becomes the primary protocol for treatment here instead of the last ditch "hope it's not too late" drug it is now, then you will see the curve we've all been praying for. Used under a doctor's supervision and early in COVID-19, it can be highly effective. It can cut the disease to 4-5 days.
Educate yourselves people. There are no experts on this forum.
Also watch videos of COVID-19 survivors who credit Hydroxychloroquine for saving their lives.
If you test to be a viable candidate for this drug under a doctor's supervision, then for God's sake, don't turn it down because of rumor. It could save your life or a loved one.

 

[JohnDB]

hey lockdown might be starting to affect my mental health...especially since yesterday...lights went out..electrician says we need new main switch, whole new power board?? gave us a quote 3300 bucks!! second quote 3200 third quote 800 bucks. I suspect the the last quote must be risky and second rate.....
this is going to drain our savings..... Lord I'm not fond of poverty. Dont take us there...

The third quote is just a labor rate if you supply ALL appropriate materials...or could be a scam. Probably a scam. The $3,300 is an appropriate price including materials. But still not the premium board.
Silver coated copper bus bars are too expensive for most homeowners. I've put them in my places for good reasons when I needed to. (Usually extreme temperature changes and moisture)
Bolt on breakers too...
Then a good amount of dielectric grease to cover bus bars and both breaker contacts.

Then because you are looking at a main board change...you are also looking at an inspection.
It's easy to get them to pull the meter but really difficult to get it put back... making sure you now comply with current codes instead of when your place was first constructed.
Interconnected smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors... usually some more grounding wire...it's more than what you are really wanting to do. Upgraded Electrical does nothing for house value.

 

[JohnDB]

There is a reason the US threatened India with severe economic repercussions if it withheld a massive shipment of Hydroxychloroquine ordered recently. There is also a reason India withheld it on their end. It works and it is an immensely effective tool to not only stop COVID-19 in its track, but to prevent it in the first place. The biggest reason it seems to not work in some patients is either it was given way too late, There were underlying health conditions or the patient couldn't tolerate the drug itself. There are tests and risk factor guides used to determine which candidates will benefit from its use. If anyone wants the real low down on Hydroxychloroquine the go to youtube and type in Hydroxychloroquine or type in the following doctors
Dr. Anthony Cordillo
Dr. Schuelt
Dr. Paul Marik
Dr. Chris Martenson
Dr Oz
Dr. John Campbell
Dr. Shruti
Dr Chiragmadaan
Hydroxychloroquine is in widespread use throughout the world and will soon be in widespread use in America. Once it becomes the primary protocol for treatment here instead of the last ditch "hope it's not too late" drug it is now, then you will see the curve we've all been praying for. Used under a doctor's supervision and early in COVID-19, it can be highly effective. It can cut the disease to 4-5 days.
Educate yourselves people. There are no experts on this forum.
Also watch videos of COVID-19 survivors who credit Hydroxychloroquine for saving their lives.
If you test to be a viable candidate for this drug under a doctor's supervision, then for God's sake, don't turn it down because of rumor. It could save your life or a loved one.

People with certain genetic racial backgrounds cannot tolerate this drug. It will never become a standard treatment because of this issue. Some people are clueless about their backgrounds...an Uncle-in-law found out a huge surprise when getting his DNA results.

And this will continue to be a huge problem.

So where it's obvious that you and some other people like this drug and are promoting it...for others they might as well take cyanide.
This reaction was discovered in the '60s during the Korean war when some of the troops were getting malaria in the tropical forests and rice patties. The negro soldiers and Mediterranean soldiers and I can't remember the third ethnic group showed a severe allergic reaction to the quinine.

So this is why they are continuing to search for other cures.
I should look at the current double blind study and see exactly which ethnic groups are excluded from participating in the study. (They have been issuing this stuff to tens of thousands of people already) this study is double blind... neither doctor or patient knows who is getting what.
But the article is true about black people dying disproportionately with other ethnic groups...and mostly it's because they can't take the only known medicine.

 

[jasonc]

Its not fear ,I,have taken malaria pills for a year ,blood ban for six months because if the exposure to malaria ,and others having reactions .

Can't just assume a pill will work for everyone .

 

[daninthelionsden]

Its not fear ,I,have taken malaria pills for a year ,blood ban for six months because if the exposure to malaria ,and others having reactions .

Can't just assume a pill will work for everyone .

Nobody is saying take this "magic" pill and all will be well. What I'm saying is IF one shows to be a viable candidate AND if taken early enough UNDER a doctor's supervision......then don't turn it down due to rumor. If one educates themselves and still doesn't want to trust it then fine....there are alternatives beginning to appear. Make educated decisions is what I promote. You can't make a proper decision based on this forum. Go get information yourself.

 

[JohnDB]

Nobody is saying take this "magic" pill and all will be well. What I'm saying is IF one shows to be a viable candidate AND if taken early enough UNDER a doctor's supervision......then don't turn it down due to rumor. If one educates themselves and still doesn't want to trust it then fine....there are alternatives beginning to appear. Make educated decisions is what I promote. You can't make a proper decision based on this forum. Go get information yourself.

Well of course...
That's a "duh".

Or maybe just stay home and isolate yourself, take appropriate precautions with gloves, masks, and handwashing when you go out.

Maybe that would be better.

Ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

And second stage trials for a real cure that EVERYONE can take will be out this late Summer to early Fall... maybe that will help too. (Vanderbilt University is on this)

 

[jasonc]

Nobody is saying take this "magic" pill and all will be well. What I'm saying is IF one shows to be a viable candidate AND if taken early enough UNDER a doctor's supervision......then don't turn it down due to rumor. If one educates themselves and still doesn't want to trust it then fine....there are alternatives beginning to appear. Make educated decisions is what I promote. You can't make a proper decision based on this forum. Go get information yourself.

Excuse me ,its under your assumption that I wouldn't ,lariam etc are always prescription ,You said to prevent you would pop it

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I did take it weekly to Prevent malaria,and yet soldiers died,had mental health from it .

No,doctor ,would after that just give it out to prevent vivid without a medical history tests.or just to,prevent if there is no probable reason for exposure .

I had hajis who tested posituve for malaria in the area.I,might know about the bad side of it .notice I said ,I didn't have a reaction, bit others did .

 

[Corn Pop]

I wonder if freedom of assembly will be allowed again in the name of health and safety. I mean organised concerts and sports events will because they have security at the door, cannot say the same for protests, big parties, and religious gatherings. It's all about preventing the spread of diseases now, so rights, I mean privelleges because rights dont exist, might have to be limited all in the name of health and safety of course.

 

[daninthelionsden]

Excuse me ,its under your assumption that I wouldn't ,lariam etc are always prescription ,You said to prevent you would pop it

.

I did take it weekly to Prevent malaria,and yet soldiers died,had mental health from it .

No,doctor ,would after that just give it out to prevent vivid without a medical history tests.or just to,prevent if there is no probable reason for exposure .

I had hajis who tested posituve for malaria in the area.I,might know about the bad side of it .notice I said ,I didn't have a reaction, bit others did .

Yes. If I am a viable candidate for Hydroxychloroquine then I would take it as a preventative measure against COVID-19 in a heartbeat. That does not mean I recommend it for anyone else. I say make grounded decisions. In my case, I have a wife undergoing chemo. I would gladly risk Hydroxychloroquine side-effects to keep her well. To others. Go get info. It's out there.

 

[JohnDB]

I wonder if freedom of assembly will be allowed again in the name of health and safety. I mean organised concerts and sports events will because they have security at the door, cannot say the same for protests and religious gatherings. It's all about preventing the spread of diseases now, so rights, I mean privelleges because rights dont exist, might have to be limited.

NHA...as in National Hospitality Association and then every Convention center, Concert venue, movie star, and sports team out there is going to scream bloody murder to get back to work.
MGM Grand hotels are losing millions. Casinos and Churches are both closed currently...
When Heaven and Hell both agree on something like closing for a while is a good idea.... maybe you should pay attention.

 

[Corn Pop]

I wonder how many small private businesses will go bust while the big corps are still open and creaming it. I drive past the big shopping centres and they are always packed with cars loads of people, meanwhile the local small grocery down the road is shut.

 

[jasonc]

I wonder how many small private businesses will go bust while the big corps are still open and creaming it. I drive past the big shopping centres and they are always packed with cars loads of people, meanwhile the local small grocery down the road is shut.

He has a point .many small business if this continues won't come back.

Even churches because giving is down will close

 

[Corn Pop]

He has a point .many small business if this continues won't come back.

Even churches because giving is down will close

They are shut in the name of safety and security don't want to spread 19 and people should isolate, so everyone must pile into the same big corp giants and purchase there to get there essentials.

As for struggling churches that's true, they got no funding unless they sent a message to there congregation to help out during lockdown and help pay the rent.

 

[JohnDB]

He has a point .many small business if this continues won't come back.

Even churches because giving is down will close

One airline has already closed its doors and filed for bankruptcy protection. It had about 30-50 jets. My FIL is a mechanic on these things and they cancelled their contract with his company.

Nashville BNA airport used to have around 65,000 traveling each day. Now we have an average of 4,000.
Lots of cargo too flying in and out...
Not anymore.

 

[jasonc]

Yes. If I am a viable candidate for Hydroxychloroquine then I would take it as a preventative measure against COVID-19 in a heartbeat. That does not mean I recommend it for anyone else. I say make grounded decisions. In my case, I have a wife undergoing chemo. I would gladly risk Hydroxychloroquine side-effects to keep her well. To others. Go get info. It's out there.

Those side effects can include a worse condition then the disease .

88 year old admitted locally asymptomatic.sent home .the pa who told me that says its blown out of proportion,its bad but just because you are 65 plus doesn't mean you will die .


That said ,I have not stopped working ,I don't wear a mask ,not gloves because unless I deco water meters and every place the public could spread it ,it won't matter I would merely take it onto my truck and simoly contaminante that .then when I don't have the items since work won't supply it ,what then?

 

[Corn Pop]

All those small private businesses and churches that go bust and shut down should just remember going bust and closing church doors saves lives.

 

[JohnDB]

Those side effects can include a worse condition then the disease .

88 year old admitted locally asymptomatic.sent home .the pa who told me that says its blown out of proportion,its bad but just because you are 65 plus doesn't mean you will die .


That said ,I have not stopped working ,I don't wear a mask ,not gloves because unless I deco water meters and every place the public could spread it ,it won't matter I would merely take it onto my truck and simoly contaminante that .then when I don't have the items since work won't supply it ,what then?

They are researching why some get really sick and others are asymptomatic.
DNA profiling is probably going to be a part of this.

 

[Michael74]

If you test to be a viable candidate for this drug under a doctor's supervision...

You are right to tell people to only take it with a doctor's supervision. People must be tested first to make sure they don't have a condition such as glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency (G6PDD), which is prevalent in some populations (an estimated 400 million people have it globally). You shouldn't take the med if you have that condition, and people should be screened for it before prescribing.

Doctor's supervision only.

 

[Michael74]

All those small private businesses that go bust should just remember going bust saved lives.

Doesn't have to happen. Just build factories to produce needed tests and medical supplies. South Korea and Singapore are getting by just fine without lockdown. They test people to find the infected, and just lock down the infected.

Build some factories already. We need meds and supplies now. Many US businesses can't wait until we can import stuff from China and India again. A few government run med factories can rescue thousands of private businesses.

 

[JohnDB]

You are right to tell people to only take it with a doctor's supervision. People must be tested first to make sure they don't have a condition such as glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency (G6PDD), which is prevalent in some populations (an estimated 400 million people have it globally). You shouldn't take the med if you have that condition, and people should be screened for it before prescribing.

Doctor's supervision only.

But a gin and tonic should only be consumed under a bartender's supervision.