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That is your problem is you follow man and reject God's Word. It is the Holy Spirit job to lead and guide you into all truth not scholarly men; just ask the Jews they did the same pattern/thing. What man is better qualified then God's Spirit with in you?
NOTHING in that passage says a thing about God causing mans fall....which AGAIN is the actual topic here.
Everyones got it wrong but benoni...isnt that right
Again, the REAL scholars of Hebrew seem to agree where the second sentence ENDS and the third BEGINS;
Whatever the intent of that SENTENCE that starts in verse 3 it does NOT indicate any state PRIOR to the fall. YOU add that thought INTO the verse, as you do with EVERY verse you present.
Stop pretending as tho YOU are qualified to tell us where the sentence breaks occur. You arent.
NO ONE HAS SAID that man has the ABILITY to save himself. But your continually misrepresenting us makes it clear that you are getting desperate.
Man CANNOT save himself from the separation from God that now exists BECAUSE Adam chose to rebel...man can ONLY RESPOND to the Fathers drawing him either positively or negatively using the FREE WILL give to man by our Sovereign God.[/quote:2hpjr47j]
PUHlease...follower of Christ said:Im sorry but the TRANSLATORS...you know..the guys who actually KNOW Hebrew, says one belongs there.Benoni said:There is no sentence break in this statement;
You certainly DONT expect us to believe YOU over the men who are better qualified in the matter, do you ?
THESE ALL use the SAME puncuation indicating a sentence break at the END of verse 2
They are all wrong, arent they ? ;)Psa 90:2
(ASV) Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
(KJV) Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
(LITV) Before the mountains were born, or ever You had formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting You are God.
(MKJV) Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever You had formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting You are God.
(YLT) Before mountains were brought forth, And Thou dost form the earth and the world, Even from age unto age Thou art God.
Everyones wrong but benoni...all those translators who AGREE where the break belongs...right ? ;)
[quote:2hpjr47j] you are the one that cannot put all of the words down in this passage that were there, because it does not conform the way you see it.
NOTHING in that passage says a thing about God causing mans fall....which AGAIN is the actual topic here.
Right.I do not need to be a scholar of Greek or Hebrew to look at the context and content of the verse; all I need is eyes to see; eyes that do have a preconceived agenda.
Everyones got it wrong but benoni...isnt that right
Again, the REAL scholars of Hebrew seem to agree where the second sentence ENDS and the third BEGINS;
Psa 90:2
(ASV) Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
(KJV) Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
(LITV) Before the mountains were born, or ever You had formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting You are God.
(MKJV) Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever You had formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting You are God.
(YLT) Before mountains were brought forth, And Thou dost form the earth and the world, Even from age unto age Thou art God.
Non-sequitur nonsense.This verse declares "Thou turnest man to destruction" if that is not the fall then there is no fall.
Whatever the intent of that SENTENCE that starts in verse 3 it does NOT indicate any state PRIOR to the fall. YOU add that thought INTO the verse, as you do with EVERY verse you present.
Again...thats a different sentence.Before the mountains were brought forth; it does not say “not after the earth was formed†before Adam's fall.
Stop pretending as tho YOU are qualified to tell us where the sentence breaks occur. You arent.
Apparently not as blind as you wish to make yourself seeing that *I* accept the ACTUAL scholars of Hebrews understanding of where the sentence breaks occur.Then it takes the content and context even more back in time before the fall " or ever thou hadst formed the earth" after all this thencomes to the fall" Thou turnest man to destruction" how deliberately blind can you get?
Please...stop with the Red Herrings and straw men here.You take all of this then you add to the fact you have never presented one verse is scripture that declares man cause the fall or man has a freewill to save himself.
NO ONE HAS SAID that man has the ABILITY to save himself. But your continually misrepresenting us makes it clear that you are getting desperate.
Man CANNOT save himself from the separation from God that now exists BECAUSE Adam chose to rebel...man can ONLY RESPOND to the Fathers drawing him either positively or negatively using the FREE WILL give to man by our Sovereign God.[/quote:2hpjr47j]