Divisions

[dwb001]

I believe it’s inspired of God and useful for teaching, correcting and training in righteousness.

Is that a quote from the NT... but how is that Scriptural? "All scripture is..." and because that book is included in the larger book... it also is scripture.
A dog that has caught it's own tail.

Like what?

Like the next question I asked.

Because what it says matches real life.

So you also worship a math text book?

Ah, you guessed wrong. I’m an unusual Christian in this generation.

But your first quote of your post refutes your assertion of being an unusual Christian, as it your own quote confirms my assessment.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Because that would mean that the question is not settled.

Only for you. You’ve set up your personal standard that the rest of christendom doesn’t recognize as a requirement. So for us, it’s settled. We needn’t live by your standard.

Frankly speaking, anyone actually setting out to do whatever parts of the Bible applicable to them KNOWS it’s settled that that bit is for them. Those not wanting to do any of it might see it differently.

 

[dwb001]

There are differences between mother and father in any family you name. Why should we expect groups to be different? Ask ten doctors questions on treatments and you won’t get one answer. Why should the church be different?

Thanks for agreeing with me.

 

[dwb001]

Only for you. You’ve set up your personal standard that the rest of christendom doesn’t recognize as a requirement. So for us, it’s settled. We needn’t live by your standard.

Frankly speaking, anyone actually setting out to do whatever parts of the Bible applicable to them KNOWS it’s settled that that bit is for them. Those not wanting to do any of it might see it differently.

How can it be my personal standard as the Catholics and the Prods disagree on the number of books?
That isn't my standard. I didn't cause the CC to adopt extra books.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Is that a quote from the NT... but how is that Scriptural? "All scripture is..." and because that book is included in the larger book... it also is scripture.
A dog that has caught its own tail.

One would have to live it to see how this is so.

Like the next question I asked.

So you also worship a math text book?

Huh? Math books don’t tell me to forgive others. Do you even know what’s in the Bible?

But your first quote of your post refutes your assertion of being an unusual Christian, as it your own quote confirms my assessment.

No it doesn’t. You guessed wrong.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Thanks for agreeing with me.

Because two people are different doesn’t mean there is no truth there.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

How can it be my personal standard as the Catholics and the Prods disagree on the number of books?
That isn't my standard. I didn't cause the CC to adopt extra books.

I’ve never heard any CC argue your point. Never. It is your standard alone.

 

[dwb001]

One would have to live it to see how this is so.

I don't understand your response.

Huh? Math books don’t tell me to forgive others. Do you even know what’s in the Bible?

You believe the Bible because it "matches real life"... much as a math textbook does. Math does tell you what 2+2 equals... and that matches the real world... and by your own logic you venerate the Bible because it matches the real world... so why would you not call a math book, scripture?

No it doesn’t. You guessed wrong.

Yes it does. You quoted from Timothy a passage that is written in a self glorifying way(if your theory is correct).

 

[dwb001]

I’ve never heard any CC argue your point. Never. It is your standard alone.

Then why do they have 74 books and not 66?
I am only pointing this out as others have questioned me about it.

 

[eddif]

FSo is it 66 books or 73 books?
Settled millennium ago?... But there is a discrepancy today. So clearly not settled.

The middle wall separating us is broken down in Christ Jesus.

The problem is all the rubble from the wall has not been completely leveled. We trip over certain things. The high minded gentiles have issues (I may can say this because I am not exactly a Jew). The larger stones are being broken into smaller pieces. We could just nuke the whole place, but the loss of life would be terrible. So we have ball-peen hammers and small chisels thinking we are making a lot of progress. Thank God the whole wall is not still standing. The oracles of God are needed by gentiles.

eddif

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I don't understand your response.

You fuss about scripture saying that all scripture is inspired and useful for....training in righteousness and that this is invalid. If one lives out the teachings of scripture as it presents itself to be lived out, then one understands the words. If one fusses over how many books are Bible instead of reading and living out any of them, one will not understand.

You believe the Bible because it "matches real life"... much as a math textbook does. Math does tell you what 2+2 equals... and that matches the real world... and by your own logic you venerate the Bible because it matches the real world... so why would you not call a math book, scripture?

Because it is not useful for training in righteous behavior towards God and man.

Yes it does. You quoted from Timothy a passage that is written in a self glorifying way(if your theory is correct).

The passage does not glorify the author. And the author did not claim any of his letters were scripture. You would have to know something of history to know the difference. The author was saying that of other scripture.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Then why do they have 74 books and not 66?
I am only pointing this out as others have questioned me about it.

Why is this important? Try to live out the teachings of one book and you will see that 66 is already enough.

 

[dwb001]

You fuss about scripture saying that all scripture is inspired and useful for....training in righteousness and that this is invalid. If one lives out the teachings of scripture as it presents itself to believe out, then one understands the words. If one fusses over how many books are Bible instead of reading and living out any of them, one will not understand.

Where did I say "invalid"?

Because it is not useful for training in righteous behavior towards God and man.

So math is not useful for training? Righteous behaviour would be behaviour which is right... but if 2+2=5... that would be unrighteous.

The passage does not glorify the author. And the author did not claim any of his letters were scripture. You would have to know something of history to know the difference. The author was saying that of other scripture.

So therefore Paul's letter to Timothy is not Scripture and should not be in the Bible. As per your logic.
And I didn't say the author was glorified. Please keep my arguments straight. Maybe the problem is that you are mixing up what I am saying.

 

[dwb001]

Why is this important? Try to live out the teachings of one book and you will see that 66 is already enough.

Divisions.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Divisions.

Not for me. Not for those who truly follow Jesus.

 

[dwb001]

Not for me. Not for those who truly follow Jesus.

The theme of this thread...

So are you saying I don't "truly follow Jesus"?

If the two biggest branches of the Christian Church can't agree on the number of books in the Bible... would that not qualify as a division? Would that division not be important?

 

[Dorothy Mae]

The theme of this thread...

So are you saying I don't "truly follow Jesus"?

Not at all. I did not mention you but was talking in general.

If the two biggest branches of the Christian Church can't agree on the number of books in the Bible... would that not qualify as a division? Would that division not be important?

I wouldn’t describe them as such and christian’s don’t agree on several doctrines. Why make a big deal out of one?

 

[dwb001]

Not at all. I did not mention you but was talking in general.

I wouldn’t describe them as such and christian’s don’t agree on several doctrines. Why make a big deal out of one?

Because this is the thread we are discussing at the moment.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Because this is the thread we are discussing at the moment.

The titles is “divisions” not catholic bibles.

 

[dwb001]

The titles is “divisions” not catholic bibles.

And this would be one of those divisions.