I have given proof of my position. You need to give biblical proof that believers are referred to as "unjust." If people aren't justified, then by definition, they aren't believers.
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Does Demon Possession get confused with the Concurrent Resurrection of the Spirit Body within the Physical?
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I don't need to give you any proof. The proof is in the scripture. The Pharisees were believers too. They believed in God. They believed in the written manuscripts as do many who also call themselves Christian today.
I know you are familiar with the scripture in Romans, about those who seek their own righteousness under the law, but the righteousness of God they know not. They believe in the word of God, but they are not justified of God by faith, they remain unjust.
Yes, you do need to give proof. Your saying it is the case doesn't mean it is. I have provided proof from the Bible that when used in the appropriate context, where adikos,"unjust" or "unrighteous," is used, it refers to unbelievers, always (Mat 5:45, Luke 18:11, Acts 24:15, Rom 3:4, 1 Cor 6:9, for example). You know that by "believers" I mean those who are followers of Christ, those who are saved, as it is consistently used throughout the NT. So, saying that the Pharisees were believers too, is misleading. The Pharisees were not "believers" according to the NT. They thought they were righteous but they were not, since the law cannot make one righteous.
We hear the sound of the wind, but man cant tell where it comes from and were it goes to. 9 so is every one that is born of the Spirit/ cannot tell where it comes from, and where it goes to/ the Spirit.)
Jesus showed He was with us for a little while, and that the disciples would seek Him ( as He went away into heaven.) but Jesus old them, where He goes, they cannot come.
Next Jesus told the disciples, He went ( to heaven) to prepare a place for them, and would come again ( return from heaven) and receive the disciples unto Himself, that where He is ( in heaven) there ( in heaven) they may be also.
John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
John 13:33 Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you.
John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
Jesus tells the disciples they shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost soon. The disciples question if Christ shall return the kingdom to Israel, Jesus tells them it is not for them to know, but that they shall receive power after the Holy Ghost is come upon them, to be witnesses of Christ to the uttermost part of the earth.
Then Jesus was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight, and the disciples were seeking for Him ( as He said to them, and that they could not go where He goes, into heaven ( John 13:33.) The disciples had this confirmed, saying, why do the disciples gaze into heaven ? That this same Jesus which is taken up from them into heaven, shall so come in like manner as they have seen Him go into heaven.
Then suddenly there came a sound ( from heaven) of a mighty rushing wind ( the wind comes and goes, and man cannot tell where it comes and where it goes/ so is every one that is born of the Spirit. John 3:8.) and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost. ( Jesus went to heaven to prepare a place for them and came again to receive them, that where He was in heaven, they may be also. John 14:3-4.)
Acts 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Acts 2:2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Earthly things the ungodly mind, and their conversation is not in heaven, they do not look for the Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ in heaven ( they look for Him earthly, physically.) But Jesus changed our vile body to be like His glorious body, as He subdued all things unto Himself.( went to prepare a place and then came again to receive them, so they may be where He is, in heaven.)
Philippians 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
There are not three resurrections, there is one. It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.
It had a natural body ( physical/.flesh) it was raised a Spiritual body.
The first man is of the earth ( no longer man who minds earthly things) and the second man is the Lord from heaven. ( Jesus went to prepare a place, to receive us unto Him in heaven.)
We bare the image of the heavenly, ( Colossians 3;10.) and flesh and blood does not inherit, that is why we are not born of flesh nor of blood, but of God. ( John 1;13.)
1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
As for your three resurrection ideas, it is nonsense.
The resurrection is of the Spirit, not physical, as the scriptures have fully described.
There is no separate resurrection for the unjust, because they remain without the Spirit, so there's cannot be the resurrection of the dead ( of life) as they remain dead.
See there is simplicity in Christ, and confusion ( of man) cannot speak anything simple, or right.
The resurrection is of the Spirit, not physical, as the scriptures have fully described.
There is no separate resurrection for the unjust, because they remain without the Spirit, so there's cannot be the resurrection of the dead ( of life) as they remain dead.
See there is simplicity in Christ, and confusion ( of man) cannot speak anything simple, or right.
For 2 admins to take notice:
1 Corinthians 15, speaks of the resurrection of the dead...
1 Corinthians 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1 Corinthians 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
There shall be a resurrection of the dead, of both the just and the unjust...
Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
Christ was put to death, the just for the unjust ( the resurrection of the dead, both the just and the unjust, IS JESUS CHRIST THE JUST, FOR THE UNJUST, SO WE ARE ALL QUICKENED TOGETHER IN CHRIST, this is the RESURRECTION OF BOTH THE JUST AND THE UNJUST.)
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
The Apostles preach the resurrection of the dead, which is the resurrection of Jesus Christ, which we are to believe in, to be saved. ( Jesus Christ is the resurrection and the life, no other.)
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
Acts 4:2 Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead.
Acts 24:21 Except it be for this one voice, that I cried standing among them, Touching the resurrection of the dead I am called in question by you this day.
Acts 26:8 Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead?
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
1 Corinthians 15, speaks of the resurrection of the dead...
1 Corinthians 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1 Corinthians 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
There shall be a resurrection of the dead, of both the just and the unjust...
Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
Christ was put to death, the just for the unjust ( the resurrection of the dead, both the just and the unjust, IS JESUS CHRIST THE JUST, FOR THE UNJUST, SO WE ARE ALL QUICKENED TOGETHER IN CHRIST, this is the RESURRECTION OF BOTH THE JUST AND THE UNJUST.)
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
The Apostles preach the resurrection of the dead, which is the resurrection of Jesus Christ, which we are to believe in, to be saved. ( Jesus Christ is the resurrection and the life, no other.)
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
Acts 4:2 Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from the dead.
Acts 24:21 Except it be for this one voice, that I cried standing among them, Touching the resurrection of the dead I am called in question by you this day.
Acts 26:8 Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead?
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
It is relevant as to show that those who will be raised to damnation would have no knowledge of there being to types of resurrections, or even that of the concept of there being any resurrection is what I was saying. I think we are agreeing, but maybe saying the same thing in a different way. It's all good.
Flaming fire is the vengeance for the damnable, everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord ( they never come into the presence of the Lord and never see life.( John 3:36) NOT POSSIBLE TO BE RAISED TO DAMNATION.
2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Jesus Christ is the just, that is the resurrection of the just.
The just was sacrificed for the unjust.
That is why Jesus is the resurrection and the life. ( the just for the unjust.)
Christ therefore preached unto the spirits in prison, for that cause the gospel was preached to those who are dead,to be judged according to men in the flesh, but to live according to God in the Spirit. ( the spirits in prison.)
Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
1 Peter 4:5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
The ones who remain unjust ( not believing that Jesus Christ is the resurrection of the just, for the unjust to be resurrected in His resurrection.) are reserved unto the day of judgement to be punished ( with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, who never see life/ no resurrection of damnation, only no belief in the resurrection of life.)
2 Peter 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Jesus Christ is the just, that is the resurrection of the just.
The just was sacrificed for the unjust.
That is why Jesus is the resurrection and the life. ( the just for the unjust.)
Christ therefore preached unto the spirits in prison, for that cause the gospel was preached to those who are dead,to be judged according to men in the flesh, but to live according to God in the Spirit. ( the spirits in prison.)
Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
1 Peter 4:5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
The ones who remain unjust ( not believing that Jesus Christ is the resurrection of the just, for the unjust to be resurrected in His resurrection.) are reserved unto the day of judgement to be punished ( with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, who never see life/ no resurrection of damnation, only no belief in the resurrection of life.)
2 Peter 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
Two types of resurrection, one for life in Spirit, and one for damnation ( in the spirit of this world) and then a further third resurrection physically as Christs return.
No, there is one Lord, one faith, one baptism ( of the Holy Ghost) and there is one resurrection, Jesus Christ is the resurrection and the life. ( from the dead or they remain in the dead.)
Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
1 Corinthians 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
No, there is one Lord, one faith, one baptism ( of the Holy Ghost) and there is one resurrection, Jesus Christ is the resurrection and the life. ( from the dead or they remain in the dead.)
Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
1 Corinthians 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
ezrider I'm posting this to Free reply to add on to what he has already tried to show you.
Free Just wanted to add to what you already said.
First the Pharisees did not have the NT to read and did not believe Jesus was Messiah come and were the ones who had Him crucified. When we read Matthew 23:1-12 Jesus characterizes the Pharisees and from vs. 13-36 Jesus condemns them and this shows just how unjust they were.
Below describes the Pharisees as being unjust
2Tim3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Tim 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Tim 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Tim 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Nicodemus, Joseph of Aremathaea (Luke 23:50- 53), and Gamaliel (Acts 5:34- 39) were three Pharisees that believed in Christ and were just before Him, but had to hide it for fear of going against the sect. Paul also was a Pharisee that persecuted Christians to death for the sake of the sect even doing this in the name of God (Acts 22).
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Who is saying anything about three resurrections?
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1 Corinthians 10:11
Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
If you wish to try and judge who is a "true Christian" and to those you say never "really believed" in Christ because of the way you wish to see it "according" to the NT writings, then you have closed yourself off from learning from the examples of the Pharisees, who they themselves believed in and held in high esteem the manuscripts and the oracles of God. Those who call themselves Christian today are no different, they view the NT the same way the Pharisees viewed the old.
2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
for his glory: " Nicodemus, Joseph of Aremathaea (Luke 23:50- 53), and Gamaliel (Acts 5:34- 39) were three Pharisees that believed in Christ and were just before Him, but had to hide it for fear of going against the sect."
The just shall live by faith ( or none of them are justified, in the law as Pharisees) as the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith ( from just in the law, to just in faith.) as written, those just shall live by faith. God manifested all to us.
No man is justified in the law ( no Pharisee was justified in the law.) in the sight of God, as the just shall live by faith and the law is not of faith.
To God the judge of all, and to the spirits of just men, made perfect. ( by the faith of Christ.)
Habakkuk 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.
Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Galatians 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
Jesus Christ is the resurrection and the life, the resurrection of the dead ( for us) the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God. ( the resurrection of the unjust, through the resurrection of the just, the just for the unjust.)
Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
There is no resurrection of damnation, ( where they see light) as it is testified, they shall never see light.
Psalms 49:18 Though while he lived he blessed his soul: and men will praise thee, when thou doest well to thyself.
19 He shall go to the generation of his fathers; they shall never see light.
20 Man that is in honour, and understandeth not, is like the beasts that perish.
The just shall live by faith ( or none of them are justified, in the law as Pharisees) as the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith ( from just in the law, to just in faith.) as written, those just shall live by faith. God manifested all to us.
No man is justified in the law ( no Pharisee was justified in the law.) in the sight of God, as the just shall live by faith and the law is not of faith.
To God the judge of all, and to the spirits of just men, made perfect. ( by the faith of Christ.)
Habakkuk 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.
Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Galatians 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
Jesus Christ is the resurrection and the life, the resurrection of the dead ( for us) the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God. ( the resurrection of the unjust, through the resurrection of the just, the just for the unjust.)
Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
There is no resurrection of damnation, ( where they see light) as it is testified, they shall never see light.
Psalms 49:18 Though while he lived he blessed his soul: and men will praise thee, when thou doest well to thyself.
19 He shall go to the generation of his fathers; they shall never see light.
20 Man that is in honour, and understandeth not, is like the beasts that perish.
There is a difference, it is faith.
The Pharisees never believed through faith, they had the law ( which is not of faith) but the law was our school master to bring us TO FAITH.
Romans 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Hebrews 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Galatians 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Galatians 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
We have been saying that all along as per John 5:28-29 and 1 Corinthians 15:12-26; 50-58; 1Thessalonians 4:13-18.
When I read all the scriptures of Jesus sitting at the right hand of God and these scriptures that speak about the judgement of Christ, the Great White throne judgement where God is sitting on the throne and the books that are opened, Matthew 25:31-34; John 5:27-29; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Rev 11:18; Rev 20:4-6; Rev 20:11, 12, this makes me believe that at the Great White Throne judgement God will be sitting on His throne and Jesus is there seated at Gods right hand now on His throne of glory. All (saints and sinners) have been called from their graves (one resurrection) and the sheep are then separated from the goats as the sheep, being those of God and His Son Christ Jesus will stand before the judgement seat of Christ as they have been given their new glorified bodies and their names found in the book of life. They will then be judged for their good works they did as being the continued works of the Lord being in Gods will and receive their crown rewards and their inheritance of the Kingdom of God in the New Jerusalem. The goats being those who are not God's or Christ own will be judged out of the other books and their judgement is that of rejecting God and His Son and their punishment is being cast into the lake of fire.
Scripture never speaks of two resurrections, but only one resurrection, John 5:28, 29 and a second death (Those being Spiritually dead) being that of death and hell being cast into the lake of fire, Rev 20:14, 15. There are two separate judgements, but only one resurrection as all will occur at the same time at the Great White Throne Judgement then will God renew the heaven and earth and usher down the New Jerusalem.
John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
IMO, a 1000 years in Rev 20 is not literal years, but only symbolic of a certain period of time as nowhere else in scripture does it mention a literal 1000 year reign of Christ here on earth, but symbolic as in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8. I see all things coming to pass as being very quickly done when Christ returns done in God's timing, not our timing.
As I have stated, the term "believers" is used only of followers of Christ. The vast majority of Pharisees and others in the Jewish leadership rejected Christ, although there is some biblical evidence some did end up following him. If that is the case, then that is profitable for doctrine and correction, and I don't know why you would want to believe otherwise.
1 Thessalonians 4, is for we who believe in that resurrection of Jesus Christ.
God ( Jesus Christ) brings those who sleep in Christ, and we which are alive and remain meet them in the air ( not a physical resurrection) to be ever with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
John 5, he that hears the voice of the Son of man, has everlasting life, to pass from death to life ( Jesus Christ is the resurrection and the life.)
The hour is coming ( for Christ to be resurrected) and was already, when we hall hear His voice and live. ( after He rose again, as that is how we are saved, faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God, and we are to believe that God rose Christ form the dead. Romans 10:10.)
The Son has that life in Himself, and authority to execute judgement ( to be the judge of the quick and the dead. Acts 10:42.) and they in the graves hear His voice, the good to the resurrection of Christ ( in belief of Him rising) and they that have done evil ( in no belief of the rising of Christ( to the resurrection of damnation ( punished with everlasting destruction FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD. 2 Thessalonians 1:9.)
John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
There is a resurrection of the dead, it is Jesus Christ. ( no one else is risen, there is no other resurrection tht we can know about.)
1 Thessalonians 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
As for the resurrection of the just and unjust, there is only one just who was risen for us ( the unjust) to be resurrected/quickened together with Him.)
1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
Those three Pharisees I listed were justified by faith as they believed in Christ in whom they heard and accepted the teachings of Christ believing in Him.
And again I showed you how to tag a member into your reply as I would have not seen this if I wasn't already in here and it is confusing trying to figure out who you are replying to.
Why would God repeat the judgement that has already been declared to the wicked, into their ears a second time ?
Also why would the wicked repeat the same answers, that they never knew the Lord was hungry, or thirsty, and failed to minister to Him ?
But again, it is already answered to them now, how they go away into everlasting punishment ( everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord.
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Again this tells how we are persuaded in our conscience ( to believe in the rising of Christ from the dead.) to be accepted of the Lord. ( present to continue in the faith, and absent to begin in the faith.) for all must appear before the judgement seat of the Lord, to receive what we did ( believed or never believed) and what we receive is already told, everlasting life or everlasting destruction.)
2 Corinthians 5:9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.