DOES GOD LOVE EVERYONE?

[eddif]

Context proves you wrong. First, "respect" is a poor translation, "regard" is better:

08159 שָׁעָה sha`ah {shaw-aw'}
Meaning: 1) to look at or to, regard, gaze at or about 1a) (Qal) to gaze at, regard, behold, look about 1b) (Hiphil) to look away, cause gaze to turn away 1c) (Hithpael) to look in dismay, gaze about (in anxiety)

God "looked" at the hearts of Cain and Abel, and something was "not right" with Cain's heart:

I know, my God, that You test the heart and that You are pleased with what is right. I have willingly given all these things with an upright heart, and now I have seen Your people who are present here giving joyfully and willingly to You. (1 Chr. 29:17 CSB)

Context reveals Cain went on a killing spree after this. From the principle of "Scripture interprets scripture" we can deduce Cain's heart did not love God:

If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? (1 Jn. 4:20 NKJ)

Now, reading God's warning to Cain reveals why God didn't regard his sacrifice. No love there, only hate ready to explode.

Cain was just paying his dues, hoping to keep God off his back. That is implied by the description of the sacrifices:

Notice the difference in the offering, Cain offered "some of the lands' produce" = nothing special, or even valuable. Abel the "firstborn" and "their fat portions" which are considered the best, valuable.

3 In the course of time Cain presented some of the land's produce as an offering to the LORD.
4 And Abel also presented an offering-- some of the firstborn of his flock and their fat portions. The LORD had regard (08159 שָׁעָה sha`ah) for Abel and his offering,
5 but He did not have regard (08159 שָׁעָה sha`ah) for Cain and his offering. Cain was furious, and he looked despondent.
6 Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you furious? And why do you look despondent?
7 If you do what is right, won't you be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is for you, but you must rule over it."
8 Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out to the field." And while they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.(Gen. 4:3-8 CSB)


Scripture is always 100% correct, never contradicting itself. If you believe it contradicts, there is a fallacy in your thinking:

This is true:
For there is no partiality with God. (Rom. 2:11 NKJ)

What you taught is not true:

My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment. (Jas. 3:1 NKJ)

Good post about the inner man.

I am still sorry about post 26. Just takes putting the phone down with fingers in the screen.
Any way.
At the time of Cain and Able man was not a meat eater. (?)

The meat offering was way out of place for that time period. I suppose there is som symbolic statement attached to what Cain did. After the flood meat appeared in human diet by statement of God.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[Alfred Persson]

Good post about the inner man.

I am still sorry about post 26. Just takes putting the phone down with fingers in the screen.
Any way.
At the time of Cain and Able man was not a meat eater. (?)

The meat offering was way out of place for that time period. I suppose there is som symbolic statement attached to what Cain did. After the flood meat appeared in human diet by statement of God.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

Notice the difference in the offering, Cain offered "some of the lands' produce" = nothing special, or even valuable. Abel the "firstborn" and "their fat portions" which are considered the best, valuable.

God looks at sacrifice from the inside out. How the sacrifice reflects the heart's love for God. Cain didn't love God, its evident in his sacrifice.

3 And He said, "Truly I say to you, this poor widow put in more than all of them;
4 for they all out of their surplus put into the offering; but she out of her poverty put in all that she had to live on." (Lk. 21:3-4 NAS)

Some commentators also remark on it being an animal sacrifice. Almost before its time. But I don't think that explains why God regarded Abel's sacrifice.

 

[eddif]

There must be an app for that, even in Swamp-water Mississippi.

The trick for early post touch is. Press enter 10 times to give space to put post reply button a little more distant.

The app is read the whole post. I am in the habit of looking for the line defining the post quote. I seldom do two references together.

eddif

 

[Alfred Persson]

The trick for early post touch is. Press enter 10 times to give space to put post reply button a little more distant.

The app is read the whole post. I am in the habit of looking for the line defining the post quote. I seldom do two references together.

eddif

I deleted my stupid joke, evidently too late. But you redeemed it with good advice I otherwise wouldn't have gotten.

 

[jeremiah1five]

With my conversion that is what I think I am. A wild branch grafted into the root/vine.

eddif

You also belong to one of the spiritual twelve tribes.
And remember, the natural twelve tribes were scattered to the 'four-corners' of the then-known world due to conquest by Assyrians and Babylonians.
You could have "Jewish" blood in you through "Jewish" intermarriage with Gentiles in the past (over 1500 years of history.)

 

[jeremiah1five]

Context reveals Cain went on a killing spree after this. From the principle of "Scripture interprets scripture" we can deduce Cain's heart did not love God:

Killing spree is not found in Scripture but is only in the vanity of your mind. In other words, making things up.

Now, reading God's warning to Cain reveals why God didn't regard his sacrifice. No love there, only hate ready to explode.
Cain was just paying his dues, hoping to keep God off his back. That is implied by the description of the sacrifices:
Notice the difference in the offering, Cain offered "some of the lands' produce" = nothing special, or even valuable. Abel the "firstborn" and "their fat portions" which are considered the best, valuable.

The problem with Cain's offering was first it was not what was prescribed by God and the prescription is found in Genesis 3:21.
Second, God cursed the ground. No sacrifice from this medium can ever be accepted by God.

Scripture is always 100% correct, never contradicting itself. If you believe it contradicts, there is a fallacy in your thinking:
This is true:
For there is no partiality with God. (Rom. 2:11 NKJ)
What you taught is not true:
My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment. (Jas. 3:1 NKJ)

God wrote names of the souls He predestined to save in a Book of Life.
This choosing is merely upon the good pleasure of His will.

Making Covenant with Abraham instead of his brother or anyone else is preference.
For God's own purposes He chose one over the other.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Eph 1:3–5.

7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: 8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt. Dt 7:7–8.

He had respect or regard for one over the other.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Killing spree is not found in Scripture but is only in the vanity of your mind. In other words, making things up.

The problem with Cain's offering was first it was not what was prescribed by God and the prescription is found in Genesis 3:21.
Second, God cursed the ground. No sacrifice from this medium can ever be accepted by God.

God wrote names of the souls He predestined to save in a Book of Life.
This choosing is merely upon the good pleasure of His will.

Making Covenant with Abraham instead of his brother or anyone else is preference.
For God's own purposes He chose one over the other.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Eph 1:3–5.

7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: 8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt. Dt 7:7–8.

He had respect or regard for one over the other.

You believe in Restrictivism which denies universal opportunity exists. The Bible teaches otherwise:

16 "For God so loved the world (2889 κόσμος kosmos) that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
17 "For God did not send His Son into the world (2889 κόσμος kosmos) to condemn the world (2889 κόσμος kosmos) , but that the world (2889 κόσμος kosmos) through Him might be saved.
18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:16-18 NKJ)

The Greek κόσμος (kosmos) appears four times, denoting the entire realm of man, which includes those in the Afterlife. Salvation opportunity is extended to all who believe (Jn. 1:9, 29; 4:42; Rm. 5:10; 8:32; 2 Cor. 5:19) whether living or dead (Jn. 5:24-25, 28-29; Heb. 9:27-28; 1 Pt. 4:6). That the Opportunity is Universal and not dependent upon time or place is clearly taught in the following Scriptures (Col. 1:20; Heb. 9:24-26; 1 Jn. 2:2; 4:9-10; 8:32).

Acceptance or rejection of the Gospel of Christ is the ONLY ground for Judgment (Mt. 21:42; Mk. 12:10; Jo. 3:16-18; 5:24; 14:6; 20:31; Acts 4:11-12; Rom. 10:9; 1 Tim. 2:5-6; 1 Peter 2:6-8; 1 Jo. 5:11-12).. Therefore, only after a definite and formal presentment of the Gospel of Christ is made to a soul fully capable of making an informed and free judgment; will God judge the conscious and deliberate acceptance or rejection of Christ.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Killing spree is not found in Scripture but is only in the vanity of your mind. In other words, making things up.

The problem with Cain's offering was first it was not what was prescribed by God and the prescription is found in Genesis 3:21.
Second, God cursed the ground. No sacrifice from this medium can ever be accepted by God.

God wrote names of the souls He predestined to save in a Book of Life.
This choosing is merely upon the good pleasure of His will.

Making Covenant with Abraham instead of his brother or anyone else is preference.
For God's own purposes He chose one over the other.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Eph 1:3–5.

7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people: 8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt. Dt 7:7–8.

He had respect or regard for one over the other.

Yes, killing spree was exaggeration. But another one of your conclusions bite the dusk. Just couldn't wait to share the good news:

You claimed God cursed the ground, therefore "no sacrifice from this medium can ever be accepted by God"

That's a bold statement, really puts you out there to full exposure. Just how thorough is the research?

1. Grain Offering (Leviticus 2): This consisted of fine flour, oil, and frankincense. It was to be free of yeast and honey and was often baked into unleavened bread.
2. Drink Offering (Numbers 15:1-12): This offering was typically wine and was poured out on the altar alongside other offerings. It was meant to be a "pleasing aroma" to God.
3. Firstfruits Offering (Leviticus 23:10): This was the offering of the first harvest of crops to God. It served as a reminder that all good things come from God and that the Israelites owed their livelihoods to Him.
4. Incense Offering (Exodus 30:1-10): This offering consisted of burning special incense on the altar of incense inside the Tabernacle. The ingredients of this incense were to be used for no other purpose.
5. Heave Offering (Numbers 15:20): This involved a portion of the dough from bread that the Israelites baked. It was to be set aside and given to the Lord as a "heave offering".
6. Tithes (Leviticus 27:30-32): While not technically a "sacrifice", the tithe was a form of offering in which the Israelites gave a tenth of their crops and livestock to the Levites, who were the priestly tribe and did not have their own land for producing food.

A critical thinker might deduce huge gaps exist in your grasp of the data of scripture. Therefore, its likely other errors exist, especially when an apostle is contradicted and God is declared to be "partial." Perhaps knowledge of scripture proving Paul is right is also absent in your synthesis.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You believe in Restrictivism which denies universal opportunity exists. The Bible teaches otherwise:

16 "For God so loved the world (2889 κόσμος kosmos) that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
17 "For God did not send His Son into the world (2889 κόσμος kosmos) to condemn the world (2889 κόσμος kosmos) , but that the world (2889 κόσμος kosmos) through Him might be saved.
18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:16-18 NKJ)

The Greek κόσμος (kosmos) appears four times, denoting the entire realm of man, which includes those in the Afterlife. Salvation opportunity is extended to all who believe (Jn. 1:9, 29; 4:42; Rm. 5:10; 8:32; 2 Cor. 5:19) whether living or dead (Jn. 5:24-25, 28-29; Heb. 9:27-28; 1 Pt. 4:6). That the Opportunity is Universal and not dependent upon time or place is clearly taught in the following Scriptures (Col. 1:20; Heb. 9:24-26; 1 Jn. 2:2; 4:9-10; 8:32).

Acceptance or rejection of the Gospel of Christ is the ONLY ground for Judgment (Mt. 21:42; Mk. 12:10; Jo. 3:16-18; 5:24; 14:6; 20:31; Acts 4:11-12; Rom. 10:9; 1 Tim. 2:5-6; 1 Peter 2:6-8; 1 Jo. 5:11-12).. Therefore, only after a definite and formal presentment of the Gospel of Christ is made to a soul fully capable of making an informed and free judgment; will God judge the conscious and deliberate acceptance or rejection of Christ.

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Rom. 3:9–11.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light [CHRIST] is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light [CHRIST], because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light [CHRIST], neither cometh to the light [CHRIST], lest his deeds should be reproved. Jn 3:18–20.

So, the Holy Spirit in Romans says NO ONE SEEKS GOD.

Christ Himself says MEN LOVED DARKNESS RATHER THAN HIM,
and,
That men HATE CHRIST,
and,
They DO NOT COME TO CHRIST.

So, with the above Scripture truth no man becomes saved through their own volition because the HATE GOD, DO NOT SEEK HIM, and DO NOT COME TO CHRIST.

So, all that love you think God has for the world of everybody is meaningless since men do not come to Christ, hate Christ, and don't even seek Christ.
Men are bound in sin and cannot break free.
A Stronger one [Christ] has to come and bind the strong man [sin] before he can pilfer his goodies.

'Nuff said.

 

[eddif]

I wonder how much I over process thoughts?

Foods kept simple seem to be healthy.

I wonder how far to go with KISS? You probably all know:
Keep It Simple Stupid

I seem to enjoy processing. But too much dextrose is not good?

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[Alfred Persson]

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Rom. 3:9–11.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light [CHRIST] is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light [CHRIST], because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light [CHRIST], neither cometh to the light [CHRIST], lest his deeds should be reproved. Jn 3:18–20.

So, the Holy Spirit in Romans says NO ONE SEEKS GOD.

Christ Himself says MEN LOVED DARKNESS RATHER THAN HIM,
and,
That men HATE CHRIST,
and,
They DO NOT COME TO CHRIST.

So, with the above Scripture truth no man becomes saved through their own volition because the HATE GOD, DO NOT SEEK HIM, and DO NOT COME TO CHRIST.

So, all that love you think God has for the world of everybody is meaningless since men do not come to Christ, hate Christ, and don't even seek Christ.
Men are bound in sin and cannot break free.
A Stronger one [Christ] has to come and bind the strong man [sin] before he can pilfer his goodies.

'Nuff said.

That eisegesis ignores the context. Everything said in verses 10 on are Paul's "proof sin is universal":

For we have previously charged both Jews and Greeks that they are all under sin. (Rom. 3:9 NKJ)

We all fail God's PERFECT SINLESS HOLY standard, as is proved by every organ, our mouths, eyes, heart and brain.

So Paul proves with OT quotes no one is good but God alone. It does not mean they are all doomed, it only means God has to help them find Him:

"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. (Jn. 6:44 NKJ)

The question then is, does God call all or just some. If only some, you are right. If all, then you are wrong:

And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself." (Jn. 12:32 NKJ)

But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone. (Heb. 2:9 NKJ)


He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? (Rom. 8:32 NKJ)

And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. (1 Jn. 2:2 NKJ)

The last verse completely rejects your restrictivism, limiting Christ's ransom to only a few. Everyone has equal chance to be saved, they must go to Christ and receive Him as LORD.

Not even the elect are saved apart from faith in Christ:

For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, (Eph. 2:8 NKJ)

Limited atonement etc., proposes a dark view of God that simply is not in the Bible.

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time, (1 Tim. 2:3-6 NKJ)

Only those who choose to be lost, are lost.

Paul's writings have always presented a challenge to interpret correctly, Peter himself says so:

15 ...as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you,
16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. (2 Pet. 3:15-16 NKJ)

If you think Paul taught a dark vengeful God who saves only a few, then wait till you read this:

26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins."
28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers.
29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
30 For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience,
31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.
33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!
34 "For who has known the mind of the LORD? Or who has become His counselor?"
35 "Or who has first given to Him And it shall be repaid to him?"
36 For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen. (Rom. 11:26-36 NKJ)

Side note: Once the length depth and breath of God's eternal Judgments are made "manifest" (revealed), then all creation will break out in praise because we will be in awe of the wisdom and knowledge of God:


Who shall not fear You, O Lord, and glorify Your name? For You alone are holy. For all nations shall come and worship before You, For Your judgments have been manifested." (Rev. 15:4 NKJ)

 

[Robert Pate]

Or is His love particular to one group of people?
And ONLY that group of people.

"God so loved the world" John 3:16.

Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. However, nothing is ours until it is received by faith, Ephesians 2:10.

 

[jeremiah1five]

"God so loved the world" John 3:16.

Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9. However, nothing is ours until it is received by faith, Ephesians 2:10.

19 And this is the condemnation, that light [CHRIST] is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light [CHRIST], because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light [CHRIST], neither cometh to the light [CHRIST], lest his deeds should be reproved. Jn 3:18–20.

Christ came into the world.
Men love darkness rather than Christ.
Everyone hates Christ.
They don't come to Christ.
So, how will they become saved if all the above is true?

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Ro 3:10–11.

There is NONE that seek God.

So, how do they become saved?

 

[Robert Pate]

19 And this is the condemnation, that light [CHRIST] is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light [CHRIST], because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light [CHRIST], neither cometh to the light [CHRIST], lest his deeds should be reproved. Jn 3:18–20.

Christ came into the world.
Men love darkness rather than Christ.
Everyone hates Christ.
They don't come to Christ.
So, how will they become saved if all the above is true?

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Ro 3:10–11.

There is NONE that seek God.

So, how do they become saved?

The Holy Spirit is in the world calling all to come to Christ. Some repent and call on Christ to save them. I happen to be one of them. Those that have repentant hearts are the ones that come to Christ, they have remorse for their sins. Others do not have repentant hearts, nor are they remorseful of their sins. They are spiritually dead. Not many are going to be saved, I estimate about 10% percent of the population will be saved.

 

[jeremiah1five]

The Holy Spirit is in the world calling all to come to Christ. Some repent and call on Christ to save them. I happen to be one of them. Those that have repentant hearts are the ones that come to Christ, they have remorse for their sins. Others do not have repentant hearts, nor are they remorseful of their sins. They are spiritually dead. Not many are going to be saved, I estimate about 10% percent of the population will be saved.

Scripture says they don't come.
So, how do they become saved?
Like Lazarus dead people cannot come.
So, how do they become saved?

 

[Robert Pate]

Scripture says they don't come.
So, how do they become saved?
Like Lazarus dead people cannot come.
So, how do they become saved?

Salvation has always been by grace through faith even in the Old Testament, Romans 4:1-5. Old Testament saints were justified by faith in God's promise of a savior. They looked for to the arrival of their Messiah. We look back to when he was here. All are justified by faith because they are justified by Christ, Romans 3:26.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Salvation has always been by grace through faith even in the Old Testament, Romans 4:1-5. Old Testament saints were justified by faith in God's promise of a savior. They looked for to the arrival of their Messiah. We look back to when he was here. All are justified by faith because they are justified by Christ, Romans 3:26.

Scripture says they don't come.
So, how do they become saved?
Like Lazarus dead people cannot come.
So, how do they become saved?

 

[eddif]

Salvation has always been by grace through faith even in the Old Testament, Romans 4:1-5. Old Testament saints were justified by faith in God's promise of a savior. They looked for to the arrival of their Messiah. We look back to when he was here. All are justified by faith because they are justified by Christ, Romans 3:26.

First off I am enjoying your posts. So do not think I am in attack mode. Some comments are about the other thread you are on.

Romans 3:30 kjv
30. Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

This suggests a subtitle difference between by and through. The only thing is there are passages about by faith, and passages about through faith and…….

The different groups line up with their way, and very few study to see what is really going on (regretfully includes me).

Salvation vs saved:
Now slow down. I may be asking a question here, but I will present it as a statement.
Saved from the physical is a type and shadow of the spiritual yet to come (which is Salvation).

The Jews lived in a more physical symbolism world. Hidden in the Law of Moses are things relating to a salvation hinted of, but yet to come.

Faith is about things hoped for. I know assurance.
2 Peter 1:5 kjv
5. And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
6. And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7. And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

Bringing faith to full life has steps? Now are the steps by or through? We just run to our groups list and block out what others think.

Eternal life for eternity only comes through Jesus Christ.

Repentance gets us lost enough to cry out for a solution to our list condition.

Ok
If anyone wants to discuss. Have at it.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[eddif]

Scripture says they don't come.
So, how do they become saved?
Like Lazarus dead people cannot come.
So, how do they become saved?

Philippians 2:13
13. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure

Acts 17:30 kjv
30. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
31. Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Acts 2:38 kjv
38. Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

eddif

 

[jeremiah1five]

Philippians 2:13
13. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure

Acts 17:30 kjv
30. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
31. Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Acts 2:38 kjv
38. Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

eddif

Philippians and Acts God is speaking to a people ALREADY saved.

But in John 3:19-20 and Romans 3:10-1...

Scripture says they don't come.
So, how do they become saved?
Like Lazarus dead people cannot come.
So, how do they become saved?