elect lady??

[Ahuli]

Awaken,

John was writing to a real woman who hosted a house church, who possibly allowed some false teachers in. It doesn't say who she was specifically. I think anything beyond that may put us in danger adding to the word. The Lord bless you.

I was seeing it as a real woman too. Because it mentions her children and a sister. The word Elect(chosen) is where it led me to Mary the mother of Jesus.

FYI .. Mary was chosen among women, not above them.

John was intrusted to care for her at the cross (John 19)
Mary had a sister that was at the cross with her. (her sister is mentioned in 13)
Also, it said she heard from the beginning..and I take it that she was with them from the beginning.

The biblical Mary could call anyone close to her, any family member, her sister.

It could have been any woman...but again the chosen or elect is what through me off.
MM mentioned that is was allagory to the church. But again it mentions her sisters children in verse 13. So I would like to know who the churches sister is if it is allagory to the church.

It mentions HER children. .... To the chosen lady and her children, Cannot be Mary. The children of your chosen sister ... what does "chosen sister" mean?

Still studing...but I came across this and threw it out there to see if someone else had studied it out to shed some light on it.

I do hope you find that light so strong it will illuminate all your corners. God bless.

 

[awaken]

Hi Awaken:

Please read Genesis chapter 24 and then get back too me.

Bless

ok, I read it!
This is the story of Abraham sending after Issac's wife Rebekah.

 

[Mysteryman]

Hi Awaken:

Please read Genesis chapter 24 and then get back too me.

Bless

ok, I read it!
This is the story of Abraham sending after Issac's wife Rebekah.

Hi awaken


Yes, and much more. I had you read this chapter, in order to establish a foundation. Verses 59 and 60 should be read again. This will help in understanding I John chapter 2.

I John 2:1 - "elect" = chosen, by revelation = predestined, As Rebekah became the wife of the promised seed Isaac, the body of Christ became the wife of the promised seed Christ. She became the mother of many, as did Rebekah became the mother of many children. And she is the sister .

When a man of God who is an apostle or prophet, comes unto the body of Christ, ( which John was an Apostle ) those from the foundation of truth come forth to the body of Christ ( their sister ) so that they will not be blown about with every wind of doctrine.

I John 2:1 and verse 13 are the same woman. In verse one, mother and in verse 13 - sister

And as you know, Genesis chapter 24 is long. Many others things within there are important to a more full understanding. One thing to notice in chapter 24 is -- twice established. God always establishes.

 

[Vic C.]

Awaken,

John was writing to a real woman who hosted a house church, who possibly allowed some false teachers in. It doesn't say who she was specifically. I think anything beyond that may put us in danger adding to the word. The Lord bless you.

It seems both myself and Adam Clarke, along with watchman and a few others, agree with you, Tina. :yes Thanks for doing the research, Lovely. I see no metaphor or reason for one here. No need to spiritualize.

http://www.studylight.org/com/acc/view. ... hapter=001

 

[Mysteryman]

Awaken,

John was writing to a real woman who hosted a house church, who possibly allowed some false teachers in. It doesn't say who she was specifically. I think anything beyond that may put us in danger adding to the word. The Lord bless you.

It seems both myself and Adam Clarke, along with watchman and a few others, agree with you, Tina. :yes Thanks for doing the research, Lovely. I see no metaphor or reason for one here. No need to spiritualize.

http://www.studylight.org/com/acc/view. ... hapter=001

Hi Vic and Tina

If this was a real woman, then that would be adding to the scirptures.

Verse two is the clarifier -- "For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever" = The Spirit of truth -- The Spirit of his Son --- Christ in you. The anointed of I John 2:27 and 28 - "little children"

A back up verse to the clarifier is verse 8 - "Look to yourselves, that we lose not those thing which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward"

The "Lady" in verse 5 and the "elect Lady" in verse 1 and the --- children of thy elect sister are all the same woman. The "elect" body of Christ.

Bless

 

[Vic C.]

Sorry, I just don't see it. I see you and others trying to pull cryptic meanings out of the otherwise straight forward text. I don't feel we are the ones adding anything to the passage.

But then again, maybe we're not as spiritual as you learned folks. ;)

 

[Mysteryman]

Sorry, I just don't see it. I see you and others trying to pull cryptic meanings out of the otherwise straight forward text. I don't feel we are the ones adding anything to the passage.

But then again, maybe we're not as spiritual as you learned folks. ;)

Hi Vic

Either way, these few (13) verses do speak volumes , and not only to one paticular person and their paticular family.

Bless