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Eternal damnation

I lost my composure reading that, but that's ok.
My point is that there is no good or better way to view hell. Whether you believe it is a short-lived period as some do or an eternal conscious torment as others, it is unacceptable either way and to be avoided at all costs.
 
My point is that there is no good or better way to view hell. Whether you believe it is a short-lived period as some do or an eternal conscious torment as others, it is unacceptable either way and to be avoided at all costs.
K.
 
There is only one way to view hell and that is what the Holy Bible says about it.
Matthew 3:12
Matthew 25:41
2 Thessalonians 1:9
Revelation 20:10
 
please know this is not aimed at anyone,
our souls are like grapes sweet and juicy full of flavor and good for kicken back and wine, Other souls are like thistles or poison ivy only good for minor irritation hahaha. I love your child-like wondering Poet, its good. But remember what Paul says about "hell"? It is being disconnected from YHWH, so literally not being a part of life but a part of death. Those who are dead now are already a part of death, We who LIVE shall never die, There is no life but Yeshua, but what does that mean? Poet Im starting to get you I think, there are all these people scripturing at you saying this or that but not answering your hearts questions when darnet just a little TRUTH FROM THE HEART ay? So whether or no you call you self "Christian" DOES NOT MATTER AT ALL IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM AND WONT GET YOU INTO HEAVEN. I can call my self a Hippopataflow matrafilisine but what does that mean??? in the same way Most people HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT MEANS O BE "Christian" IT MEANS.... THE SPIRIT OF YHWH DWELLS WITHIN YOU MAKEING YOU HOLY (set apart for YAH) TO DO HIS WORK AND HIS WILL WHICH IS LOVE. "SCRIPTUAL DOCTRINE" MEANS NOTHING. If you could SEE in TRUTH you would all know that there is NO NEED for anything BUT YHWH's Almighty LOVE!!!! not some book a roemin emperor made, kay? not saying Holy Scripture (set apart for God) isn't good and awesome and the BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EATH arnt good but what about actually BEING SOMETHING HOLY? If you where truly Sons and Daughters of YHWH then we would long to IMATATE him not SPEW nonsense we actually don't understand. IF YOU ACTUALLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT SCRIPTURE WAS SAYNIG YOU WOULD DO. Faith without action IS DEAD. if you have faith then go LOVE somebody somewhere. INFACT HERE IS A CHALLANGE TO ANYONE.

Go out right NOW (if day) and bring some nice worm sup to the next homless people you see, you don't need to peach the word because YHWH is already in action. THIS IS A SPIRITUAL ministry not a "HEY YOU FAGS! GOD HATES YOU AND YOUR GOING TO HELL" infact if you KNOW WHAT SCRIPURE SAYS even having those words in your heart or as a belief IS JUST WRONG AND IS CONDEMING JUDGEMNET! Repent for any and all judgments aganst your fellows for it is the sin WITHEN the man that your spirit dislikes. I have gone through scripture and scripture noticing the difference in parts of PAULS letters and THE WORD OF YHWH YESHUA and although I LOVE PAUL we must be aware of his own progestin in Christ and His own faults as He does in his letters, Where does Yeshua say "follow Pauls teachings and not mine?" Again I LOVE PAUL AND YESHUA BUT be aware about being to entangled with "new Law" when we have just been freed from the power Law gave Sin. so don't give sin its power by condemning anyone or even worring about who or why, if or ifnot, because MOSES ACCUSES YOU and YHWH judges you, so be at peace and do what is good, DECERN.
 
I used to wonder why some christians would prefer to believe in eternal torment if there was a better alternative view in the bible.
I still wonder about that. The Bible says that the wages of sin is death. I don't know why people prefer to believe that the wages of sin is eternal torment.
 
I still wonder about that. The Bible says that the wages of sin is death. I don't know why people prefer to believe that the wages of sin is eternal torment.
As though believing God's truth is a matter of picking and choosing. If God says that there is a second death and a Lake of Fire, then God is the only one who knows for sure, and He has good reasons to reveal this to men. If there was no Hell, there would have been no need for the Cross. Did you consider that?
 
As though believing God's truth is a matter of picking and choosing. If God says that there is a second death and a Lake of Fire, then God is the only one who knows for sure, and He has good reasons to reveal this to men. If there was no Hell, there would have been no need for the Cross. Did you consider that?
I don't think that believing God's truth is a matter of picking and choosing. Since God says there is a second death, why on earth do you not believe that there really IS a second death? A death where the wicked die permanently after having been resurrected from their first death for judgment. Do you really think that if there is no ECT in Hell there would be no need for the cross? That isn't correct. There is still a need for the cross. God's Word says whoever believes in Him shall not PERISH but will have ETERNAL LIFE. The purpose of the cross is that is where Jesus Christ died to pay the penalty for sin that WE OWE. That penalty is death - For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. I still don't know why people prefer to believe that the wages of sin is eternal torment instead of death as the Bible says. As you say, it is not a matter of picking and choosing. Either you believe God's truth or you don't. Have you considered that?
 
Jesus didn't leave it out why do people prefer to believe he did?

tob

Oh? Where did Jesus say that there was to be eternal conscious torment in hell? Please be specific. Jesus said that the road is wide that leads to destruction. Do you know more that He knows?
 
please know this is not aimed at anyone,
our souls are like grapes sweet and juicy full of flavor and good for kicken back and wine, Other souls are like thistles or poison ivy only good for minor irritation hahaha. I love your child-like wondering Poet, its good. But remember what Paul says about "hell"? It is being disconnected from YHWH, so literally not being a part of life but a part of death. Those who are dead now are already a part of death, We who LIVE shall never die, There is no life but Yeshua, but what does that mean? Poet Im starting to get you I think, there are all these people scripturing at you saying this or that but not answering your hearts questions when darnet just a little TRUTH FROM THE HEART ay? So whether or no you call you self "Christian" DOES NOT MATTER AT ALL IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM AND WONT GET YOU INTO HEAVEN. I can call my self a Hippopataflow matrafilisine but what does that mean??? in the same way Most people HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT MEANS O BE "Christian" IT MEANS.... THE SPIRIT OF YHWH DWELLS WITHIN YOU MAKEING YOU HOLY (set apart for YAH) TO DO HIS WORK AND HIS WILL WHICH IS LOVE. "SCRIPTUAL DOCTRINE" MEANS NOTHING. If you could SEE in TRUTH you would all know that there is NO NEED for anything BUT YHWH's Almighty LOVE!!!! not some book a roemin emperor made, kay? not saying Holy Scripture (set apart for God) isn't good and awesome and the BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EATH arnt good but what about actually BEING SOMETHING HOLY? If you where truly Sons and Daughters of YHWH then we would long to IMATATE him not SPEW nonsense we actually don't understand. IF YOU ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT SCRIPTURE WAS SAYNIG YOU WOULD DO. Faith without action IS DEAD. if you have faith then go LOVE somebody somewhere. INFACT HERE IS A CHALLANGE TO ANYONE.

Go out right NOW (if day) and bring some nice worm sup to the next homless people you see, you don't need to peach the word because YHWH is already in action. THIS IS A SPIRITUAL ministry not a "HEY YOU SINNER! GOD HATES YOU AND YOUR GOING TO HELL UNLESS YOU REPENT AND TURN TO THE ONE WHO HATE YOU" like some people claiming to follow LOVE. Nah this is Gospel of peace that we love "Jesus loved us sinners who hurt and hated each other so much that He came down Here HIMSELF to SHOW US LOVE AND ACCEPTINCE guiding us and giving His own spirit for us to LIVE." and know infact if you KNOW WHAT SCRIPURE SAYS even having those words of hatrid in your heart as a belief then repent for any and all judgments against your fellows for it is the sin WITHEN the man that your HOLY Spirit dislikes. I have gone through scripture and scripture noticing the difference in parts of PAULS letters and THE WORD OF YHWH YESHUA and although I LOVE PAUL we must be aware of his own progestin in Christ and His own faults as He does in his letters, Where does Yeshua say "follow Pauls teachings and not mine?" Again I LOVE PAUL AND YESHUA GRATER, be aware about being to entangled with "new Law" when we have just been freed from the power Law gave Sin. Again Paul is the homie but what is the grater message of the Tarah and New Testament? don't give sin its power by condemning anyone or even worrying about who or why, if or ifnot, because in the end MOSES ACCUSES Us and YHWH judges us, so be at peace and do what is good, Love your Brothers and sisters as He has loved us. Shalom Emanuel
 
You know where those verses are Tim you've been in every thread on these forums having to do with this subject, no need to double post them..

tob
 
As though believing God's truth is a matter of picking and choosing. If God says that there is a second death and a Lake of Fire, then God is the only one who knows for sure, and He has good reasons to reveal this to men. If there was no Hell, there would have been no need for the Cross. Did you consider that?
yo in Exodus God opens the earth and swallows up X amount of people. look up "rebellion of kora"
 
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