Deborah13
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The Lord Who is 'able to save' (Hebrews 7.25) is 'able to keep' (Jude 24).
Good scriptures, thanks farouk.
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The Lord Who is 'able to save' (Hebrews 7.25) is 'able to keep' (Jude 24).
You say: The Lord says if you even lust in your heart you have broken the law!
When did He say that? (in your own bible?)
What He said is, you had already committed adultery in your heart - This is a direct teaching of Christ according to the new covenant, what Christ wants.
(Deuteronomy 18:18) 'I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.
(Deuteronomy 18:19) 'And it shall be [that] whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require [it] of him.
You ignoring Christ's teachings just like that? The Father will require anyone who does not hear Him.
Good scriptures, thanks farouk.
The first two you know are covered in the big 10. Jesus was covering every jot and tittle of His own to say that you can't be good enough.
It's not about you it's all about Him. If you can do it, you don't need Him. Right?
Thou shall not murder.
Thou shall not commit adultry.
Thou shall not swear falsely. Lev 19:12
Do not take revenge. Lev 19:8
Love all human being that are of the convenant Lev 19:18
http://www.jewfaq.org/613.htm
The Lord Who is 'able to save' (Hebrews 7.25) is 'able to keep' (Jude 24).
Deborah: YW
And He does it all! He does all the saving, and He does all the keeping!
Blessings.
Lust in your heart = commited adultery in your heart = thou shall not commit adultery = breaking the Law
Yes, He does all saving and all keeping only to those who obey Him.
(Hebrews 5:9) And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,
He is also an advocate only those who follow His commandments.
(1 John 2:1) My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
(1 John 2:2) And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
(1 John 2:3) Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
How ironic, obeying and keeping His commandments which the Bible speaks about are conveniently ignored.
We must remember, too, that Paul speaks of the believer's obedience in terms of the power of God: 'it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure' (Philippians 2.13). So it's because of human merit that the believer can even obey. It's all of God, Who does all the saving and all the keeping.
(Philippians 2:12) Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
(Philippians 2:13) for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for [His] good pleasure.
(Philippians 2:14) Do all things without complaining and disputing,
(Philippians 2:15) that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world,
(Philippians 2:16) holding fast the word of life, so that I may rejoice in the day of Christ that I have not run in vain or labored in vain.
Why is Paul asking to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling if it is God who does the saving and keeping?
Why is Paul afraid if his labor is in vain, when all are already saved and all the saving and keeping is from God?
The verse,
(Philippians 2:13) for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for [His] good pleasure.
It is the regeneration/cleansing process which is the work of Holy Spirit. This has nothing to do with God saving and keeping.
The word SOTERIA can mean deliverance in its fullest sense.
But it remains the case that God does work in the believer 'both to will and to do of His good pleasure'.
We can't boast of obedience. It's all of God.
Who is boasting about anything? Is being obedient to God which He expects have anything to do with boasting?
Are you going to say?... Oh Lord, I don't have to keep your commandments and be obedient to you because, that will be boasting of my obedience for Salvation.
How unbiblical?
(1 John 2:4) He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
...but when the believer even obeys His Lord at all, it's by the power of God, assured to those whose redemption is already utterly secure, as God works in them 'both to will and to do of His good pleasure' (Philippians 2.13).
Ephesians 2.9 is also relevant.
Good works (as in Ephesians 2.10) are the natural characteristic of true believers, but they are not done to earn salvation or to try to achieve eternal security. God does all the saving and all the keeping.
You have mentioned the law, over and over. The commandments of God unto the believer is Faith in His Son and love as He loves us. FAITH WORKING BY LOVE. Now either you know this like many claim to do, but yet you present scripture to suggest a believer is judged by the law of moses?Who is speaking anything about the law? did I mention anything from the law?
Inspite of Christ warning people to live holy, some are never WILLING TO SEE the truth.
Nothing is earned because, nothing is given at the first place. Salvation is through Christ who dwells in us. If Salvation is given as a separate package, why care about Christ then?
Salvation is ONLY in Christ. If we have Christ, we have Eternal life. If we reject Him by bearing no fruit and/or practicing lawlessness, so does Salvation is no more in us, because Christ who has Salvation is no more in us.
(Hebrews 12:14) Pursue peace with all [people,] and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
(Hebrews 12:15) looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled;
How sure are you that the Word spoken by God will return to Him void?
(Isaiah 55:11) So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, But it shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper [in the thing] for which I sent it.
How sure are you that the curse of death will never happen?
(Genesis 2:16) And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat;
(Genesis 2:17) "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die."
Which is why, we are dead and there is no salvation in us. Salvation and Eternal life is only in Christ Jesus which are "hidden". It is NEVER given to anyone.
(Colossians 3:3) For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
(1 Peter 1:5) who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
The hidden life and our salvation which is in Christ Jesus will be revealed when He appears in the clouds.
How sure are you Ananias and Sapphira are non believers without the Holy Spirit?
(Acts 5:3) But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back [part] of the price of the land for yourself?
(Acts 5:9) Then Peter said to her, "How is it that you have agreed together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look, the feet of those who have buried your husband [are] at the door, and they will carry you out."
(Acts 5:10) Then immediately she fell down at his feet and breathed her last. And the young men came in and found her dead, and carrying [her] out, buried [her] by her husband.
If they are just lying, they just do to Peter. Isn't they filled their heart to lie to Holy Spirit who is in their heart?
Nothing is earned because, nothing is given at the first place. Salvation is through Christ who dwells in us. If Salvation is given as a separate package, why care about Christ then?
Salvation is ONLY in Christ. If we have Christ, we have Eternal life. If we reject Him by bearing no fruit and/or practicing lawlessness, so does Salvation is no more in us, because Christ who has Salvation is no more in us.