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Fave verses defending the Divinity of Christ

An eternal father requires an eternal son
A son has the same nature as his father

Matt 17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,

2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.

Glory of God!
 
The Godhead (Trinity):

The Bible teaches that there is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4) (1 Timothy 2:5) (Isaiah 45:5).

Yet, the Bible also teaches that there are distinctions within the Godhead or that there is a plural nature to God.

#1. The word Elohim (אֱלֹהִ֔ים) is both a singular and a plural noun.
#2. God refers to Himself in plural form (Genesis 1:26) (Genesis 3:22) (Genesis 11:7) (Isaiah 6:8).
#3. Plurality of God in New Testament (Matthew 28:19) (2 Corinthians 13:14) (John 14:16-20).
#4. Introductions to both the Son & Holy Spirit (Daniel 7:9-10, Daniel 7:13-14) (John 14:16)
#5. Different persons of Godhead appear at one time (Luke 3:21-22)
#6. Distinctions of Wills (Luke 22:42).
#7. Conversations Between the Godhead (Psalms 2:1-12) (Psalms 45:6-7) (Psalms 110:1) (Matthew 11:27) (John 17:24).

The most clearest verse in Scripture that describes the Trinity is 1 John 5:7.

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” (1 John 5:7).

This verse appears in the King James Version but it is wrongfully removed from many Modern Translations.

Now, there are two wrong extremes people have made involving the Trinity.

#1. Modalism
(Which is a belief held by United Pentecostals).

This says that there are no distinctive persons within the Godhead. That God the Father just puts on a mask and pretends to be the Son; Others believe it says all three persons are smashed together whereby the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost do not have any kind of distinctiveness anymore. But the Bible makes it clear that the Father sent the Son to die for our sins (And it was not the Son sending the Father) (1 John 4:14). The Bible makes it clear that one cannot be forgiven if they speak a word against the Holy Spirit but yet, this is not the case if one speaks a word against the Son, though (Matthew 12:32).

#2. Tritheism
(Which is a belief held by Mormons).

This says that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three separate and distinct gods. This is polytheism or the worship of more than one God. But the Bible makes it clear that the Lord our God is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4).

Then there is the correct view of the Trinity:

The Lord our God exists as one God, but He exists as three distinct persons (i.e. The Father, the Word (Christ), and the Holy Ghost). All three persons co-existed as one God for all eternity. Also, in the Trinity, the Father and the Son can dwell within one another despite their distinctiveness as persons within the Godhead, too. For Jesus said He dwells in the Father and the Father dwells in Him (John 14:10) (John 17:21).

Romans 1:20 says,

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"

Jesus had power as God.

#1. Jesus said He has power to raise the dead to life just as the Father had power to raise the dead (John 5:21).
#2. Hebrews 1:3 talks about how Christ held all things together by the word of His power when He purged us of our sins.
#3. Jesus said, He would raise up this Temple (His body) three days later (John 2:19).
#4. Jesus had the power to forgive sins and give eternal life (Mark 2:7) (Luke 7:44-50) (John 14:6).
#5 Jesus had the power to take away the sins of the entire world (John 1:29).
#6. Jesus Christ said wherever two or three are gathered in my name, there I am among them (Matthew 18:20). This was said to the people he was around and not to just us today.
#7. Jesus knew men's thoughts (Matthew 9:4) (Matthew 12:25) (Mark 2:8) (Luke 5:22) (Luke 6:8) (Luke 9:47) (Luke 24:38).
#8. Jesus knew about the lives of others (John 2:24) (John 4:17-18) (John 4:29) (John 6:64).

God purchased us with His own blood:

“Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.” (Acts of the Apostles 20:28).

There is no Savior beside or next to God:

“I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.” (Isaiah 43:11).

“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.” (Matthew 16:19).

The Holy Spirit is called God:

“Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.” (Acts of the Apostles 5:3-4).

The Holy Spirit is on equal level with being God:

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” (Matthew 28:19).

The Holy Spirit is eternal:

“How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?” (Hebrews 9:14).

The Holy Spirit is a person:

“And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever;” (John 14:16).

The Holy Spirit can be grieved:

“And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.” (Ephesians 4:30).

The Holy Spirit can be blasphemed:

“And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.” (Matthew 12:32).

Important Note: Only God can be blasphemed.
 
Lk 1:30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,

31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;

32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.

33 And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him.

34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;

35 (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.

Matthew 27:54
Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

A son has the same nature as His father!
 
I gather from these replies about their favourite verses about the divinity of Christ, is that people believe this divinity that Christ has proves him to be God. I agree Jesus is divine or have divinity, but that doesn't mean I believe him to be God. Like I said, I believe Jesus to be divine, but that divinity that Jesus has, I believe him to be a god. I believe the person who God sent from Heaven, the person who came from heaven, was and is the only begotten Son of God. I truly believe that God sent his only begotten Son to the world of mankind to save mankind.(John 3:16) I'm certain all of you believe that, or at least I'm thinking you do.
 
I gather from these replies about their favourite verses about the divinity of Christ, is that people believe this divinity that Christ has proves him to be God. I agree Jesus is divine or have divinity, but that doesn't mean I believe him to be God. Like I said, I believe Jesus to be divine, but that divinity that Jesus has, I believe him to be a god. I believe the person who God sent from Heaven, the person who came from heaven, was and is the only begotten Son of God.
The divinity of Jesus proves him to be God simply because there is no other God or god. The entire Bible is strictly monotheistic, which rules out the existence of any living god other than the one true God. That is why Thomas could say "My Lord and my God!" without being accused of blasphemy, or why Jesus accepted such a claim without being accused of blasphemy. He was the Son of God, but that also means he was truly God, in addition to being truly man.

I truly believe that God sent his only begotten Son to the world of mankind to save mankind.(John 3:16) I'm certain all of you believe that, or at least I'm thinking you do.
Yes.
 
1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
 
Trinity at the burning bush? Ex 3

God the father
The word
And the burning bush represents the Holy Spirit the fire of divine love.

Btw God calls men father?
 
1 cor 13:13 three things are eternal
Faith, hope, and charity.

Faith in the God of our fathers: lk 1:68
Hope in the blood and redemption of Christ: Jn 1:29
Love of God poured out by the Holy Spirit: rom 5:5
 
A tribute of thanksgiving to the holy Trinity:

Thanksgiving to the eternal father who created me:

Thanksgiving to the Son who redeemed me in His blood:

Thanksgiving to Holy Spirit who sanctified me in the waters of baptismal regeneration:

Blessed be the most holy Trinity, undivided unity!
 
1 jn 2: 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

God is immutable / unchangeable /
Eternal.

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
 
Micah 5:2

AND THOU, BETHLEHEM Ephrata, art a little one among the thousands of Juda: out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be the ruler in Israel: and his going forth is from the beginning, from the days of eternity.

Micheas (Micah) 5:2
Likewise, the prophet, Micah, told us that the Messiah shall be born in Bethlehem, and that He was with God the Father from the beginning of Eternity.

This prophecy was fulfilled in Luke 2:4-15.
 
Rom 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
 
Jesus is worshipped!
Only God may be worshipped! <<
>>>Q: Did Jesus did or said anything on his own or he was told to say and do what God (the father) told him to say and do?
In my opinion, if Jesus was God, then he was a little God depend on higher authority!!
 
Right from the words of Jesus himself (and not others who have been misinterpreted) -

John 20:17- Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
 
>>>Q: Did Jesus did or said anything on his own or he was told to say and do what God (the father) told him to say and do?
In my opinion, if Jesus was God, then he was a little God depend on higher authority!!
Fully God fully man
But He free submitted to the wil of the eternal father
Do you believe in the eternal father?
 
Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Micah 5:2

AND THOU, BETHLEHEM Ephrata, art a little one among the thousands of Juda: out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be the ruler in Israel: and his going forth is from the beginning, from the days of eternity.

Micheas (Micah) 5:2
Likewise, the prophet, Micah, told us that the Messiah shall be born in Bethlehem, and that He was with God the Father from the beginning of Eternity.

This prophecy was fulfilled in Luke 2:4-15.
Thanks
 
Right from the words of Jesus himself (and not others who have been misinterpreted) -

John 20:17- Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
 
Right from the words of Jesus himself (and not others who have been misinterpreted) -

John 20:17- Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
Why did you laugh at my post #10 as there was nothing funny within it.
 
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