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[JLB]

Was Judas Iscariot, who was in Christ for more then 3 years, ever saved?

Please again, for the third time, post the scripture that says Judas Iscariot was “in Christ”.


JLB

 

[JLB]

Many were following Jesus...but didn't believe. They never believed. I have given you that answer several times now.

Answer to what?

 

[JLB]

To believe that Jesus is God.

The demons believe that but continue to serve Satan.

 

[Cygnus]

Believe the Gospel.

Believe the way Jesus means believe.

Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. Luke 8:12

• lest they should believe and be saved.

Do you agree or disagree?


JLB

John 3:16 also says believers are saved and will not perish. They receive eternal life.

 

[Cygnus]

The demons believe that but continue to serve Satan.

Long sigh.....Jesus didn't die for the demons. Why do people still use that old tired worn out answer?

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Please quote the scripture that you are referring to.


How many times do I have to ask?


JLB

I don't know.
You tell me.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

More Satanic music.

Doesn’t help your cause.

Now there's a new thread, satanic music.
I'll work on putting it together.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Please again, for the third time, post the scripture that says Judas Iscariot was “in Christ”.


JLB

No!
If you don't know the verses already, then that's your problem, not mine.

 

[JLB]

John 3:16 also says believers are saved and will not perish. They receive eternal life.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16


It says whosoever believes should not perish...


Is this what you believe?


What must one do to be saved?



JLB

 

[JLB]

Long sigh.....Jesus didn't die for the demons. Why do people still use that old tired worn out answer?

Because it’s a biblical.

You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! James 2:19


JLB

 

[JLB]

No!
If you don't know the verses already, then that's your problem, not mine.

You are the one who made the claim, so now it’s time for you to back it up with scripture.

Rollo Tamasi said:
Was Judas Iscariot, who was in Christ for more then 3 years, ever saved?

Please provide the scripture that says Judas was “in Christ“.



JLB

 

[JLB]

Now there's a new thread, satanic music.
I'll work on putting it together.

That seems to be your niche.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

You are the one who made the claim, so now it’s time for you to back it up with scripture.





Please provide the scripture that says Judas was “in Christ“.



JLB

If Judas wasn't in Christ, then none of the apostles were or it would say so.
So what does that prove?

That seems to be your niche.

No, you provoked it my insulting the music I put on there.
It seems to be another one of your niches.

 

[Cygnus]

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16


It says whosoever believes should not perish...


Is this what you believe?


What must one do to be saved?



JLB

Eternal life is attached to believing. If you believe you have eternal life. Eternal life is just that...eternal. By definition. It's what the word means. If you are given eternal life you can't lose it..Why? It wouldn't be eternal if you can lose it.

 

[Cygnus]

Because it’s a biblical.

You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! James 2:19


JLB

Let me say it again...Jesus didn't die for the demons.

 

[JLB]

If Judas wasn't in Christ, then none of the apostles were or it would say so.
So what does that prove?

It proves you have an opinion.

 

[JLB]

Let me say it again...Jesus didn't die for the demons.

Let me quote the scripture again.

You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! James 2:19

 

[JLB]

Eternal life is attached to believing. If you believe you have eternal life. Eternal life is just that...eternal. By definition. It's what the word means. If you are given eternal life you can't lose it..Why? It wouldn't be eternal if you can lose it.

Eternal life is knowing Him.

And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. John 17:3

If you have eternal life, it’s because you are “in Christ”, joined to Him and are one spirit with Him.

But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
1 Corinthians 6:17

The Spirit of Life in Christ is eternal, and not dependent upon the actions of man or angel or devil.

He is eternal.

He was eternal long before man was created.

He will continue to be eternal long after this age.


He continues to be eternal if someone is removed from Him.


“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit.
John 15:1-2

• Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away;

Do you believe a person who was in Christ, then removed from Christ, still has eternal life?



JLB

 

[Cygnus]

Let me quote the scripture again.

You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! James 2:19

So what??????

 

[Cygnus]

Do you believe a person who was in Christ, then removed from Christ, still has eternal life?



JLB

I've already explained to you the meaning...even gave you a biblical example. Post 385