GALATIANS- warning to the Church

[George Muller]

Ga 1:1 ¶ Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

I think it is interesting, that Paul establishes his authority above even the angels of heaven?
I think if anyone considers these few passages, they would have to admit that the gospel of Paul is the "gospel of grace" Now knowing the book of Romans, one should understand that grace and law are the issue to which Paul is speaking.

 

[gr8grace]

Yes, and Grace comes first!(always does) If one does not have a firm Grasp on Grace, one will always try to mix Grace and the Law. They are mutually exclusive.

Gal 1:1 Is in stark contrast to what Peter did in Acts 1:23 isn't it? God chooses Apostles, not legalistic men.

Your right, Paul was chosen to reveal the mystery of the Church.....Eph 3:9. Grace, which defeats all of Satan and his schemes and counterfeits. And Saves mankind from Sin.

Our purpose is to reveal Gods unending Grace to a lost and dying world.

We are not here to try to clean up this world and make it a better place and rid it of the evil. We are here to reveal grace to lost souls.

Gal 1:9~~ another gospel? This is what I hear from most of the churches and church people I am Around:

1. music is the major part of our ministry.
2. we have to get rid of porn.
3.we have to have a church potluck.
4. we have to plan a fundraiser.
5. we have to picket the abortion clinic.
6. we have to picket the adult video store.
7. we have to Keep ourselves saved.
8. Faith alone in Christ alone is not enough to save a soul.

A teacher that teaches true Godly Grace is a commodity that IS out there. But I believe that God WANTS us to seek it out and willingly leave the religious churches. Because one does have to seek and Hunt down a teacher that teaches Grace nowadays.

 

[George Muller]

A teacher that teaches true Godly Grace is a commodity that IS out there. But I believe that God WANTS us to seek it out and willingly leave the religious churches. Because one does have to seek and Hunt down a teacher that teaches Grace nowadays.

Yes I thank my God that they are here and growing, to the praise of His grace

 

[smaller]

A teacher that teaches true Godly Grace is a commodity that IS out there. But I believe that God WANTS us to seek it out and willingly leave the religious churches. Because one does have to seek and Hunt down a teacher that teaches Grace nowadays.

Some Grace doctrines can be every bit as blind and condemning as any other given slants.

Expression of moral stance is not a problem for believers either by the way, as in the list you don't like. If I recall it cost John the Baptist his head and Jesus His Life in flesh.

The 'sin' that Jesus decried and cost Jesus His life was calling down HYPOCRISY in religious leaders.

s

 

[gr8grace]

A teacher that teaches true Godly Grace is a commodity that IS out there. But I believe that God WANTS us to seek it out and willingly leave the religious churches. Because one does have to seek and Hunt down a teacher that teaches Grace nowadays.

Some Grace doctrines can be every bit as blind and condemning as any other given slants.

Expression of moral stance is not a problem for believers either by the way, as in the list you don't like. If I recall it cost John the Baptist his head and Jesus His Life in flesh.

The 'sin' that Jesus decried and cost Jesus His life was calling down HYPOCRISY in religious leaders.

s

I agree smaller. that moral list is not bad in and of itself. But if that is the focus, that is not the church for a believer.

And when it comes to grace and a grace centered church, I agree with you, some can be blind. That is why I said "true Godly Grace." Some hide behind their own definition of "grace"

 

[smaller]

A teacher that teaches true Godly Grace is a commodity that IS out there. But I believe that God WANTS us to seek it out and willingly leave the religious churches. Because one does have to seek and Hunt down a teacher that teaches Grace nowadays.

Some Grace doctrines can be every bit as blind and condemning as any other given slants.

Expression of moral stance is not a problem for believers either by the way, as in the list you don't like. If I recall it cost John the Baptist his head and Jesus His Life in flesh.

The 'sin' that Jesus decried and cost Jesus His life was calling down HYPOCRISY in religious leaders.

s

I agree smaller. that moral list is not bad in and of itself. But if that is the focus, that is not the church for a believer.

And when it comes to grace and a grace centered church, I agree with you, some can be blind. That is why I said "true Godly Grace." Some hide behind their own definition of "grace"

God will continue to 'divide' and 'conquer' liars wherever they are found.

s

 

[George Muller]

God will continue to 'divide' and 'conquer' liars wherever they are found.

1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jo 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Yes, and Grace comes first!(always does)...

What do you mean by this?

I have to ask because actually death by law comes first...then the grace of the resurrected life. I'd be surprised if you disagreed, so you prolly mean something else by what you said.

Natural man first...spiritual man second.

7. we have to Keep ourselves saved.
8. Faith alone in Christ alone is not enough to save a soul.

Well, I'm glad you're not hammering an agenda here, lol!

You have to continue to believe to the very end.

James says that the 'faith' that does not act is a faith that can not save. This in no way means the actions of faith make a person righteous and earn them salvation. It means you are deceived if you think you can receive God's grace and it not change you into the ever increasing obedience to the Spirit. But that is what many in the church believe...that God's grace is so powerful you don't even have to continue to trust in Christ to expect salvation on the Day of Wrath, and that your faith doesn't have to result in obedience for that faith to save you.

THAT is what is being taught in our 'religious' churches today, along with, ironically, a false works religion with lots of emphasis on service, but little to none on obedience. But it is obedience that signifies whether we are truly continuing in the faith we had at first and will thus be saved on the Day of Wrath. The great hunt in the church should be for the teacher of these truths. But it is not. Itching ears...itching ears...

I say all this not to divert the topic, but to show that actually the grace church that is so sure it isn't like the Galatians has it's own false gospel beliefs, and sense of 'law' that diverts it from the truth, while it loudly proclaims it's freedom from the law and the false gospel of justification by law.

 

[gr8grace]

Yes, and Grace comes first!(always does)...

What do you mean by this?

I have to ask because actually death by law comes first...then the grace of the resurrected life. I'd be surprised if you disagreed, so you prolly mean something else by what you said.

Natural man first...spiritual man second.

7. we have to Keep ourselves saved.
8. Faith alone in Christ alone is not enough to save a soul.

Well, I'm glad you're not hammering an agenda here, lol!

You have to continue to believe to the very end.

James says that the 'faith' that does not act is a faith that can not save. This in no way means the actions of faith make a person righteous and earn them salvation. It means you are deceived if you think you can receive God's grace and it not change you into the ever increasing obedience to the Spirit. But that is what many in the church believe...that God's grace is so powerful you don't even have to continue to trust in Christ to expect salvation on the Day of Wrath, and that your faith doesn't have to result in obedience for that faith to save you.

THAT is what is being taught in our 'religious' churches today, along with, ironically, a false works religion with lots of emphasis on service, but little to none on obedience. But it is obedience that signifies whether we are truly continuing in the faith we had at first and will thus be saved on the Day of Wrath. The great hunt in the church should be for the teacher of these truths. But it is not. Itching ears...itching ears...

I say all this not to divert the topic, but to show that actually the grace church that is so sure it isn't like the Galatians has it's own false gospel beliefs, and sense of 'law' that diverts it from the truth, while it loudly proclaims it's freedom from the law and the false gospel of justification by law.

Hi Jethro.

I did mean the opening of Pauls letters, Grace First.

I do see your point with natural man first then spiritual. However i contend that it was actually Gods Grace that condemned all men. His Justice demanded it but His Grace kept mankind going, He could of just killed us all.

Condemnation to ALL mankind is actually a gift. He made ALL objects of salvation in doing it this way.(instead of just calling it quits for mankind) Rom 11:32

Letting me live, even as a natural man is Gods Grace.

Hammering an Agenda? Just a couple of 'notes' in my post.

I do see an agenda being hammered away in your post though.

You have a great Day Jethro. Remember I had to go check my front tire on my home because of you! That possum Grease was starting to spill out on the left side of the pan!

 

[George Muller]

Ga 1:1 ¶ Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

I think it is interesting, that Paul establishes his authority above even the angels of heaven?
I think if anyone considers these few passages, they would have to admit that the gospel of Paul is the "gospel of grace" Now knowing the book of Romans, one should understand that grace and law are the issue to which Paul is speaking.

It is interesting to look at the word another that is used in verse 6, to describe the false gospel which Paul was speaking.

heteros
het'-er-os
Of uncertain affinity; (an-, the) other or different: - altered, else, next (day), one, (an-) other, some, strange.

Now all heresy of scripture, is a turning from grace.

 

[George Muller]

6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

It seems almost every false group has some encounter with an angel or some message from heaven that in some way seeks to add works of mans religion or to bring back the yoke of the law in some way. Some claim encounters with angels, some claim to be prophets and speak of dreams and visions and how God is telling them this and that. Some even bypass all that and say that they themselves are Christ or set in the place of Christ. We who have the epistles and the Word of God, need not look to men in robes, or in buildings made with hands of men. We need not to hear the prophet or prphetess, who mutters and peeps their nonsense. We need not to worry about those who claim to have seen angels or that God is giving them new revelation.
Here we have the Great Apostle Paul, telling us that what he has given us, cannot be challenged even by an angel from heaven. That he received his gospel direct from the Lord Jesus and the Father. That if anyone dares to teach contrary to his doctrine that God will curse that man.

 

[John 8:32]

6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

It seems almost every false group has some encounter with an angel or some message from heaven that in some way seeks to add works of mans religion or to bring back the yoke of the law in some way. Some claim encounters with angels, some claim to be prophets and speak of dreams and visions and how God is telling them this and that. Some even bypass all that and say that they themselves are Christ or set in the place of Christ. We who have the epistles and the Word of God, need not look to men in robes, or in buildings made with hands of men. We need not to hear the prophet or prphetess, who mutters and peeps their nonsense. We need not to worry about those who claim to have seen angels or that God is giving them new revelation.
Here we have the Great Apostle Paul, telling us that what he has given us, cannot be challenged even by an angel from heaven. That he received his gospel direct from the Lord Jesus and the Father. That if anyone dares to teach contrary to his doctrine that God will curse that man.

The great Apostle Paul said this...

1Co 9:6 Or I only and Barnabas, have not we power to forbear working?

Shouldn't we be paid for the work of preaching?

1Co 9:7 Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?
1Co 9:8 Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also?

Oh my, what law is he referring to?

1Co 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
1Co 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

For whose sakes was this Law of Moses written? Paul says here for our sakes.

 

[George Muller]

6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

It seems almost every false group has some encounter with an angel or some message from heaven that in some way seeks to add works of mans religion or to bring back the yoke of the law in some way. Some claim encounters with angels, some claim to be prophets and speak of dreams and visions and how God is telling them this and that. Some even bypass all that and say that they themselves are Christ or set in the place of Christ. We who have the epistles and the Word of God, need not look to men in robes, or in buildings made with hands of men. We need not to hear the prophet or prphetess, who mutters and peeps their nonsense. We need not to worry about those who claim to have seen angels or that God is giving them new revelation.
Here we have the Great Apostle Paul, telling us that what he has given us, cannot be challenged even by an angel from heaven. That he received his gospel direct from the Lord Jesus and the Father. That if anyone dares to teach contrary to his doctrine that God will curse that man.

The great Apostle Paul said this...

1Co 9:6 Or I only and Barnabas, have not we power to forbear working?

Shouldn't we be paid for the work of preaching?

1Co 9:7 Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?
1Co 9:8 Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also?

Oh my, what law is he referring to?

1Co 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
1Co 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

For whose sakes was this Law of Moses written? Paul says here for our sakes.

What is your point? Is the law not a witness?
Ro 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

 

[John 8:32]

6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

It seems almost every false group has some encounter with an angel or some message from heaven that in some way seeks to add works of mans religion or to bring back the yoke of the law in some way. Some claim encounters with angels, some claim to be prophets and speak of dreams and visions and how God is telling them this and that. Some even bypass all that and say that they themselves are Christ or set in the place of Christ. We who have the epistles and the Word of God, need not look to men in robes, or in buildings made with hands of men. We need not to hear the prophet or prphetess, who mutters and peeps their nonsense. We need not to worry about those who claim to have seen angels or that God is giving them new revelation.
Here we have the Great Apostle Paul, telling us that what he has given us, cannot be challenged even by an angel from heaven. That he received his gospel direct from the Lord Jesus and the Father. That if anyone dares to teach contrary to his doctrine that God will curse that man.

The great Apostle Paul said this...

1Co 9:6 Or I only and Barnabas, have not we power to forbear working?

Shouldn't we be paid for the work of preaching?

1Co 9:7 Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?
1Co 9:8 Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also?

Oh my, what law is he referring to?

1Co 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
1Co 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

For whose sakes was this Law of Moses written? Paul says here for our sakes.

What is your point? Is the law not a witness?
Ro 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Point is, you keep hammering away that the Law is done away and here Paul says that the Law of Moses was written for us. That is what it says, regardless of what you might wish to believe.

 

[JLB]

The great Apostle Paul said this...

1Co 9:6 Or I only and Barnabas, have not we power to forbear working?

Shouldn't we be paid for the work of preaching?

1Co 9:7 Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?
1Co 9:8 Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also?

Oh my, what law is he referring to?

1Co 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
1Co 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

For whose sakes was this Law of Moses written? Paul says here for our sakes.

What is your point? Is the law not a witness?
Ro 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Point is, you keep hammering away that the Law is done away and here Paul says that the Law of Moses was written for us. That is what it says, regardless of what you might wish to believe.

Amen, In fact the whole word of God is for us who believe, for All scripture is profitable...

In just a few verses later Paul writes -

1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness. 6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play." 8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9 nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come. 1 Corinthians 10:1-11

Are we to be baptized into Moses?

Are we to be Baptized into the Red Sea?

Are we to be Baptized in a cloud?


Since you seem to think that we are to keep the Law, have you partaken of the three different Baptisms that this scripture speaks to us to do by these example?

Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

The very people who are constantly pushing others to abide by the law of Moses are usually are the ones who violate the law the most, as Paul wrote -


21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal? 22 You who say, "Do not commit adultery," do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? 23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law? Romans 2:21-23


Have you been Baptized into Christ, in water and in the Holy Spirit?


JLB

 

[George Muller]

The great Apostle Paul said this...

1Co 9:6 Or I only and Barnabas, have not we power to forbear working?

Shouldn't we be paid for the work of preaching?

1Co 9:7 Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?
1Co 9:8 Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also? (SOUNDS LIKE A WITNESS)

Oh my, what law is he referring to?

1Co 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
1Co 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

For whose sakes was this Law of Moses written? Paul says here for our sakes.

What is your point? Is the law not a witness?
Ro 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Point is, you keep hammering away that the Law is done away and here Paul says that the Law of Moses was written for us. That is what it says, regardless of what you might wish to believe.

lets post a little more of the context?
1Co 9:8 Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also? - a WITNESS
9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.
11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; ( DOES THIS SOUND LIKE A COMMAND OF THE LAW?) but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

So after all that Paul has written in clear words concerning the law, one would take this scripture to mean that Paul is putting the believer back under the law?

How about the scriptures before and after in the law? are any of you suggesting we are under these scriptures;

De 25:2 And it shall be, if the wicked man be worthy to be beaten, that the judge shall cause him to lie down, and to be beaten before his face, according to his fault, by a certain number.
3 Forty stripes he may give him, and not exceed: lest, if he should exceed, and beat him above these with many stripes, then thy brother should seem vile unto thee.
4 Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the corn.
5 ¶ If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her

Paul wrote about those who will desire to be teachers of the law, that they will not know what they are saying or trying to affirm.
Do you just pick out the parts of the law that you like? HOW IS VERSE 4 VALID TO BE LAID UPON A BELIEVER BUT VERSE 3 AND 5, ARE NOT?

 

[George Muller]

6 ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

It seems almost every false group has some encounter with an angel or some message from heaven that in some way seeks to add works of mans religion or to bring back the yoke of the law in some way. Some claim encounters with angels, some claim to be prophets and speak of dreams and visions and how God is telling them this and that. Some even bypass all that and say that they themselves are Christ or set in the place of Christ. We who have the epistles and the Word of God, need not look to men in robes, or in buildings made with hands of men. We need not to hear the prophet or prphetess, who mutters and peeps their nonsense. We need not to worry about those who claim to have seen angels or that God is giving them new revelation.
Here we have the Great Apostle Paul, telling us that what he has given us, cannot be challenged even by an angel from heaven. That he received his gospel direct from the Lord Jesus and the Father. That if anyone dares to teach contrary to his doctrine that God will curse that man.

:amen

 

[JLB]

Paul wrote about those who will desire to be teachers of the law, that they will not know what they are saying or trying to affirm. Do you just pick out the parts of the law that you like? HOW IS VERSE 4 VALID TO BE LAID UPON A BELIEVER BUT VERSE 3 AND 5, ARE NOT?

Come on with it brother! :amen

JLB

 

[George Muller]

Ac 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord

They covered their ears from hearing the truth? "THERE IS NONE GOOD, NO NOT ONE"

Those who had spent their whole lives seeking to establish their own righteousness by the law, could not bear the message of Christ. That all men must cast away their own attempts at self-righteousness by the law. It is the flesh of man that seeks to cover itself with fig leaves, but every man is naked and God will not accept the righteousness of man. Those of you who think God accepts your law-keeping, are deceived and you have covered your ears from hearing the truth.

Php 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 ¶ Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
7 But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by fait

 

[George Muller]

Jesus did not come to make bad people good, He came to make dead people alive? For we all ''ALL MEN'' where dead in our sins. Only through His death and through His life can any man have righteousness and life.

Eph 2:1 ¶ And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 ¶ But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Ro 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.