Gap Theory

[jasonc]

You see, those years where people were migrating around the world aren't recorded in the Bible. They are what you might call the lost years. If we want to know the age of the earth, which we do, we need to go to extra Biblical sources. It is sad, but there we are.
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The problem with that ,the flood is global .
The words for age to come is not the word yom isn't used but the olam

And death is God plans .

 

[Cooper]

The problem with that ,the flood is global .
The words for age to come is not the word yom isn't used but the olam

And death is God plans .

People were living before the flood, so it is necessary to factor those years in, otherwise the earth will be even younger.
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[jasonc]

People were living before the flood, so it is necessary to factor those years in, otherwise the earth will be even younger.
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The problems you overlook

One ,the persons who aren't related to Adam God didn't care to save or let alone allow a chance ,mem were already evil by Adam .Adam was made evil.

If there was no Adam as the father of all men and the first audience as I do listen to jewry ,which reject the gap theory by their dating of the religious calender which is a count from Adam himself .

It's not tishlev 25 ,2023 in their calender.

Peter alludes the judgement of the earth and compared it to the whole earth not a partial judgement .all but 8 died ,other wise Noah could have simply steered his boat to dry land and would have seen it or found it as birds can migrate across the oceans .

 

[Cooper]

The problems you overlook

One ,the persons who aren't related to Adam God didn't care to save or let alone allow a chance ,mem were already evil by Adam .Adam was made evil.

If there was no Adam as the father of all men and the first audience as I do listen to jewry ,which reject the gap theory by their dating of the religious calender which is a count from Adam himself .

It's not tishlev 25 ,2023 in their calender.

Peter alludes the judgement of the earth and compared it to the whole earth not a partial judgement .all but 8 died ,other wise Noah could have simply steered his boat to dry land and would have seen it or found it as birds can migrate across the oceans .

To know the age of the earth it would be necessary to go back to the Garden of Eden.
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[Cooper]

To know the age of the earth it would be necessary to go back to the Garden of Eden.
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You know what, to go back to the Garden of Eden, it would be necessary to go back to the beginning of time and that would take us back to eternity.
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[jasonc]

To know the age of the earth it would be necessary to go back to the Garden of Eden.
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You are saying otherwise and yes by oral tradition the Jews do .science isn't able .history is seldom settled .

Who had the first Thanksgiving in the new world?
The puritans ?
Nope the Spanish in Florida .

The oldest attempt to settle let alone discovery of the new world was by the Chinese then the Vikings .yet we were taught Columbus for centuries and the puritan account.

Ever heard of the seventy nations and three of them are Jewish name sakes as Ashkenazi, Sephardic,and yeminite?
These were areas they settled to after ad 70 and each has its own flavor on Hebrew and the way they practice Judaism .

 

[jasonc]

Is Darwinian Evolution Compatible with Free Will and Personal Responsibility?

In The Descent of Man, Darwin explained human behavior largely as the function of pre-determined—and often anti-social—instincts. For all of Darwin’s praise of man’s sociability, he wrote that “it…

www.discovery.org

On free will .

 

[jasonc]

I will play along with you. How do you know their names?

The Puritans don't go back very far.

The puritans are known,they dated before American in the Netherlands.

Fine when you Know that the bbt is correct and why venus and neptune orbit in retrograde and can see or demonstrate dark matter which isn't able or point to a star evolution you have a case .

Origin science isn't .the creationist admit that .the naturalist won't .it's why I posted the article on free will.

Yet you literal add millions of years to Adam who died at 900 plus years .

Adam and eve had sons and daughters and also well the Bible only mentions the first murder by cain.

Yet the toe says well natural selection to include infanticide is quite deadly and normal .

Which is it ?
We have free will or not ?
The toe is not able to address that it can't .https://answersingenesis.org/geology/geologic-time-scale/unlocking-the-geologic-record/

 

[jasonc]

Strange one who despises the reformed literally argued that man evolved and the earth is old and both deny free will .

 

[JackrabbitSlim]

Well, this topic went off the rails quickly. I'm done.

 

[Cooper]

Well, this topic went off the rails quickly. I'm done.

Isn't that what moderators are for?
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[GodsGrace]

When someone tells us the earth is only ten thousand years old and then we remember what the Bible tells us about time and eternity, we find that the two do not sit well together.

From Everlasting to Everlasting
Psa 90:1 A Prayer of Moses the man of God. Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.
Psa 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
Psa 90:3 Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.
Psa 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
Psa 90:5 Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which groweth up.
Psa 90:6 In the morning it flourisheth, and groweth up; in the evening it is cut down, and withereth.
Psa 90:7 For we are consumed by thine anger, and by thy wrath are we troubled.
Psa 90:8 Thou hast set our iniquities before thee, our secret sins in the light of thy countenance.
Psa 90:9 For all our days are passed away in thy wrath: we spend our years as a tale that is told.
Psa 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
Psa 90:11 Who knoweth the power of thine anger? even according to thy fear, so is thy wrath.
Psa 90:12 So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.
Psa 90:13 Return, O LORD, how long? and let it repent thee concerning thy servants.
Psa 90:14 O satisfy us early with thy mercy; that we may rejoice and be glad all our days.
Psa 90:15 Make us glad according to the days wherein thou hast afflicted us, and the years wherein we have seen evil.
Psa 90:16 Let thy work appear unto thy servants, and thy glory unto their children.
Psa 90:17 And let the beauty of the LORD our God be upon us: and establish thou the work of our hands upon us; yea, the work of our hands establish thou it.

I try not to get my faith mixed up with scientific facts.
There are some that believe the earth is only 6 thousand years old.
It is their prerogative.
But cities (yes cities) have been found that date back more than that.
Maybe even more than 9,000 years.
To say nothing of animal fossils that are millions of years old.

 

[GodsGrace]

Well, this topic went off the rails quickly. I'm done.

You kind of should direct it back.
It's very easy to get off-topic.
You started an interesting thread...

 

[GodsGrace]

Big Bang theory says that the universe began, scientist believe, with every speck of its energy jammed into a very tiny point. This extremely dense point exploded with unimaginable force creating matter and propelling it outward to make billion of galaxies of our vast universe calling it the big bang theory. This is far from the creation of God in the time frame that He created all things.

The objects in the universe have been moving farther and farther apart.
What is causing this?
Why couldn't God create the universe with a bang?

 

[JackrabbitSlim]

Isn't that what moderators are for?
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Perhaps. However, of the 1,044 post you have made, not a single post was started by you. Might I suggest you start your own posts to share such things instead of highjacking the posts of other's?

 

[GodsGrace]

Proven true by whom? I reject the BBT for several reasons, the chief among them is, not only is it not supported by Scripture, Scripture fully rejects this idea of the creation account. It teaches- contrary to God's word-that, man evolved, instead of being created by a divine being. The BBT is nothing more than an assumption concocted by atheistic scientists who reject the divinity of creation, yet, wanting to "understand" the origins of the universe and everything in it. They begin with the presupposition of no divine creator, then set out to "prove" this hypothesis correct.

You're getting evolution mixed up with the beginning of life.
You're getting mixed up with the beginning of the universe and whether or not
it came about by intelligent design.

for_his_glory might be doing the same thing, although I've known her a long time
and I doubt it.

The BB is not some concoction invented by atheist scientists.
Even Christian scientists accept the BB.

 

[JackrabbitSlim]

You kind of should direct it back.
It's very easy to get off-topic.
You started an interesting thread...

Perhaps. Or, other's could just simply not highjack a post to share their beliefs that are not on topic, instead, start their own thread. But, I guess, it's because they feel they would not get any response, or, very few. No, I gather it is their desire to instigate, antagonize and exhibit their misguided biblical plumage.

 

[Cooper]

I try not to get my faith mixed up with scientific facts.
There are some that believe the earth is only 6 thousand years old.
It is their prerogative.
But cities (yes cities) have been found that date back more than that.
Maybe even more than 9,000 years.
To say nothing of animal fossils that are millions of years old.

Animal fossils that are millions of years old enhances my faith. It puts 10,000 years in the shade. I knew that anyway but thank you all the same.

 

[GodsGrace]

Perhaps. However, of the 1,044 post you have made, not a single post was started by you. Might I suggest you start your own posts to share such things instead of highjacking the posts of other's?

I went back a couple of pages and can't really see how your topic got changed.
Aren't we discussing the gap theory?
That would include the age of the earth and other ideas.

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[GodsGrace]

Perhaps. Or, other's could just simply not highjack a post to share their beliefs that are not on topic, instead, start their own thread. But, I guess, it's because they feel they would not get any response, or, very few. No, I gather it is their desire to instigate, antagonize and exhibit their misguided biblical plumage.

see post 79.
I really don't think it's to instigate.