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Gap Theory

wondering said:
You're getting evolution mixed up with the beginning of life.
You're getting mixed up with the beginning of the universe and whether or not
it came about by intelligent design.

for_his_glory might be doing the same thing, although I've known her a long time
and I doubt it.

The BB is not some concoction invented by atheist scientists.
Even Christian scientists accept the BB.
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I'm just curious, who are the BB please?
 
The earth is as old as the hills, and when we consider hills grow about 5 millimeters a year, and then look at some of the highest mountains, I would hate to calculate the age of the earth but it is way, way over ten thousand years old.
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Hills are formed by oceanic activity but not all cases.

Florida ,yes .any hill that isn't man made is made by the ocean . My county and state have three ridges outside of the of the lake Wales ridge mine that goes north to Ocala .the three ridges are one mile ,five mile and ten mile .

If you take the trains along the coast ,and or us 1 it's the one mile ridge ,95 is on the five mile and parts of the turn pike as well .the five mile ridge in my county was high ground for farmers and used that way .
 
wondering said:
The objects in the universe have been moving farther and farther apart.
What is causing this?
Why couldn't God create the universe with a bang?
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God could have probably created everything with a big bang, but we can clearly see in the creation account in Genesis that He did not. Many speculations or theories are just that when there is no actual proof. It's the same with evolution as we did not evolve, but were created in the image of God as being a human being.
 
for_his_glory said:
God could have probably created everything with a big bang, but we can clearly see in the creation account in Genesis that He did not. Many speculations or theories are just that when there is no actual proof. It's the same with evolution as we did not evolve, but were created in the image of God as being a human being.
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I agree with you about evolution.
But the theory of how everything in the universe got started is accepted science.
Like that H2° is water.

When God said: Let There Be Light....
That's when the Big Bang occurred.

Science always had believed that the universe always existed.
I think it's very interesting that, instead, it agrees with the bible account of creation.
 
for_his_glory said:
God could have probably created everything with a big bang, but we can clearly see in the creation account in Genesis that He did not. Many speculations or theories are just that when there is no actual proof. It's the same with evolution as we did not evolve, but were created in the image of God as being a human being.
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I don't take the Bible as a history book in that it lists every event .

Our own public schools don't even do that they skim over events that are big locally .

Ie the school district wouldn't mention Indian river colony or why ft.pierce was named that or the Seminole or the ais.yet there are local markers .

I get why but that said .the biggest problem with the toe is that it can't be guided ,if it is then it makes God using
illness and wanting it ,death and suffering and doing that before sin entered .yes I get the reformed view but I can't see a strong objection to limited free will by those theistic evo types as well the evolutionary psychologists say we don't have freewill genes drive us to act and we can't stop it .

That well negates laws .yet most don't see that that are theistic evolutionists
 
wondering said:
I agree with you about evolution.
But the theory of how everything in the universe got started is accepted science.
Like that H2° is water.

When God said: Let There Be Light....
That's when the Big Bang occurred.

Science always had believed that the universe always existed.
I think it's very interesting that, instead, it agrees with the bible account of creation.
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The Bible doesnt say that but that it had a beginning .only God is eternal.we nor his creation aren't .eternal life is granted by him ,where we spend it is based on his will.

I didn't prexist before Feb 1,1973 or rather my conception .

Thus I'm not eternal .I had a begining .God doesn't .
 
for_his_glory said:
God could have probably created everything with a big bang, but we can clearly see in the creation account in Genesis that He did not. Many speculations or theories are just that when there is no actual proof. It's the same with evolution as we did not evolve, but were created in the image of God as being a human being.
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I have never believed order comes out of chaos, it needs a creator.

By the way, my post has gone missing. I spent about two hours writing that, and now it is gone for ever.
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jasonc said:
I don't take the Bible as a history book in that it lists every event .

Our own public schools don't even do that they skim over events that are big locally .

Ie the school district wouldn't mention Indian river colony or why ft.pierce was named that or the Seminole or the ais.yet there are local markers .

I get why but that said .the biggest problem with the toe is that it can't be guided ,if it is then it makes God using
illness and wanting it ,death and suffering and doing that before sin entered .yes I get the reformed view but I can't see a strong objection to limited free will by those theistic evo types as well the evolutionary psychologists say we don't have freewill genes drive us to act and we can't stop it .

That well negates laws .yet most don't see that that are theistic evolutionists
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There are theistic evolutionists, this is true.

I think the problem is that they aren't finding the fossils of one type of creature evolving into another.
Some scientists are abandoning the theory of evolution. (for this reason and some others).
 
wondering said:
I agree with you about evolution.
But the theory of how everything in the universe got started is accepted science.
Like that H2° is water.

When God said: Let There Be Light....
That's when the Big Bang occurred.

Science always had believed that the universe always existed.
I think it's very interesting that, instead, it agrees with the bible account of creation.
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I guess we are seeing the big bang maybe in two different ways as I am seeing it through the theory of evolution and you are seeing it as God spoke it and it happened instantly maybe like a blink of an eye as it could have very well of happened that way. We have to remember that God's instant may not be as we see as an instant, I don't know. All I know is that God spoke His creation into existence.

As far as the gap theory, which this thread is all about, I don't know how anyone could possibly know how long it took God to create Adam after everything else was finished.
 
jasonc said:
I don't take the Bible as a history book in that it lists every event .
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I agree, but yet there is much history and culture within it for the various events from beginning to end that we learn of in what God gives us to learn.
 
JackrabbitSlim I apologize for allowing replies to be off topic as I too got caught up in it.

Everyone we have taken this thread off topic as it's about the gap theory, not about evolution and how old the earth is. Let's respect that of the OP and keep our replies to your thoughts on the gap theory. everything else will be deleted as being of topic from here on out.

Thank you
 
wondering said:
You're getting evolution mixed up with the beginning of life.
You're getting mixed up with the beginning of the universe and whether or not
it came about by intelligent design.

for_his_glory might be doing the same thing, although I've known her a long time
and I doubt it.

The BB is not some concoction invented by atheist scientists.
Even Christian scientists accept the BB.
Click to expand...

for_his_glory said:
JackrabbitSlim I apologize for allowing replies to be off topic as I too got caught up in it.

Everyone we have taken this thread off topic as it's about the gap theory, not about evolution and how old the earth is. Let's respect that of the OP and keep our replies to your thoughts on the gap theory. everything else will be deleted as being of topic from here on out.

Thank you
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No worries. Thank you for your input and work in your administrative duties.
 
JackrabbitSlim said:
It goes by different names, Ruin Restoration, Ruin Recreation, etc. The Gap Theory-even though I believe it not to be a theory-is the most commonly used. It deals with the belief, that during the creation account mentioned in Gen. 1:1, that time lapsed between the creation of the heavens and the earth. So, Gen. 1:1 could be viewed as "In the beginning, God created the heavens..."and all it's host. "And" then, after a period of time, "the earth."
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Ok I have read the stay on gap theory.
Your post #8 is above, and I hope I am referring to an important issue in gap therory.

Time did not exist till day four. The first three days do not fall under time as we know it.
(Evening and morning were the first day).

Time will end:
Revelation 10:6 kjv
6. And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

When sun and moon and stars were created time began (day four).
When the end comes the clock is destroyed, and time will be no more.

IMHO there was no time in days 1 through 3.
There were days defined by periods of darkness followed by periods of light.

Eternity is not defined by time.

That said I can not comprehend pre time, but I just see that time did not exist till day four.

Am I just trying to cause trouble? I hope not. Time has for years been a concern of mine. Gap theory seems to be outside time.

The first three days are not defined by days and years / time.

Help me out here.

Mississippi redneck
eddif
 
eddif said:
Ok I have read the stay on gap theory.
Your post #8 is above, and I hope I am referring to an important issue in gap therory.

Time did not exist till day four. The first three days do not fall under time as we know it.
(Evening and morning were the first day).

Time will end:
Revelation 10:6 kjv
6. And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

When sun and moon and stars were created time began (day four).
When the end comes the clock is destroyed, and time will be no more.

IMHO there was no time in days 1 through 3.
There were days defined by periods of darkness followed by periods of light.

Eternity is not defined by time.

That said I can not comprehend pre time, but I just see that time did not exist till day four.

Am I just trying to cause trouble? I hope not. Time has for years been a concern of mine. Gap theory seems to be outside time.

The first three days are not defined by days and years / time.

Help me out here.

Mississippi redneck
eddif
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We-as in myself and members of my church-refer to this as eternity past and eternity future. Pre-Adam is considered eternity past and the time after the Bema Seat judgement and the Great White Throne judgement, New Heaven and New earth is considered eternity future. How that helps.
 
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