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Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 time gap?

Sinthesis said:
It all sounds very 'new-aged' and self-satisfying. The danger here is the temptation to define any other Christian who doesn't agree with one's own special revelation of truth as some lesser type of Christian or worse. The simple fact is that Christians can have differences of opinion amongst themselves regarding unessential aspects of the faith. Claiming a hotline to the truth of all things via the Holy Spirit is simply a vanity we should not entertain if we are to love others as ourselves.
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I would agree that it does kind of sound "new age" whatever that really is. I don't know about "self-satisfying" as I have nothing personally to gain. I want to believe the biggest and most glorious thing that scripture supports and the Spirit confirms that gives God the greatest amount of glory. I try to go to the Word each time in humility with a completely OPEN slate expecting HUGE things and wherever the Lord takes me I let him have his way. Everything I have learned is on the table for him to rewrite if he wants to. This is very freeing and he has taken me on some wild and deep rides that are very humbling and glorious while revealing some very deep and profound things. Personally, I believe a BIG change is coming in the world of Christianity in the near future and it will be very good!

God bless you.

Kicked.
 
Scripture supports scripture..... When i add my 'what ifs' and the other 6000 members here do the same we can get a lot of nonsense.
 
I used to believe in the time gap because that's what I was taught when I was a young Christian. Never really thought about it for years until I started studying it.
IMO , v1 is a total synopsis of creation. v2-2:3 deals with the details of creation, and 2:4-25 deals with the details of man and women's creation. 3:1 onwards, starts the chronological/historical perspective.
Just as man and woman were created as mature adults, and just as all the plants, animals and fish were also created as mature, God created the earth and universe as mature. Not over the span of billions of years, but just as Genesis 1:1 indicates, in an instant.
If it requires that a fully mature universe has to be a billion years old as it requires that a fully mature man or woman have to be 16 - 18 years old or more, then that is what God did.
 
reba said:
The simple fact is that Christians can have differences of opinion amongst themselves regarding unessential aspects of the faith. :thumbsup
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Yup. Unfortunately some Christians have different lists of essentials :D
 
Very good input and thoughts on this. I like it when we explore the possibilities of how BIG and amazing God is instead of putting the focus on each other and what we believe. I am sorry to report that I do that too and am guilty of it at times.

Can you imagine the very thought of Jesus when he said "anything is possible for those that believe"? Mark 9:23 Also, the words of Paul when he said: "Now to Him who is able to do far more abundantly beyond all that we ask or think, according to the power that works within us" in Ephesians 3:20

Wow! That is a God so big and awesome that I can't hardly begin to imagine him.

I have found these are some awesome verses to think about each day as I know I often put God into a box that I have created. These verses remind me that he can not be contained or limited by my own self-imposed ideas or preconceptions in any way. I want to know him as personally and truthfully as he feels I can handle as revealed via written and personal spoken Word (Rhema) from within. He has not let me down on this and my prayer is that you will experience the same.

Hope you have a blessed Monday.
 
Stan1953 said:
Just as man and woman were created as mature adults, and just as all the plants, animals and fish were also created as mature, God created the earth and universe as mature. Not over the span of billions of years, but just as Genesis 1:1 indicates, in an instant.
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Genesis 1:1 makes no such indication.

Stan1953 said:
If it requires that a fully mature universe has to be a billion years old as it requires that a fully mature man or woman have to be 16 - 18 years old or more, then that is what God did.
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It seems as though you are contradicting what you just said above. Are you saying the universe could be billions of years old?
 
Free said:
Genesis 1:1 makes no such indication.
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Sorry what doesn't scripture indicate?
Free said:
It seems as though you are contradicting what you just said above. Are you saying the universe could be billions of years old?
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No, I said God made it mature as He did all of His creation. If that means a day old Adam & Eve looked to be 20 years old and the universe looked to be a billions years old, so be it. Only God know for sure what that entailed, being the creator.
 
Stan1953 said:
I agree, it was a day. I don't understand why God did it in days but they were days, very similar to our current days. One lunar cycle.
The creation of all the parts shown in verse 1-5 do not say how long each took, but the end result of day one was what was there.
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I'm not sure what you're agreeing with. My previous post which I linked to shows that it is quite likely that day one of creation didn't start until verse 3. That would mean the earth could very well be billions of years old.
 
Free said:
I'm not sure what you're agreeing with. My previous post which I linked to shows that it is quite likely that day one of creation didn't start until verse 3. That would mean the earth could very well be billions of years old.
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Day one is v1-5. V2 picks up the creation of light, immediately after the geological and cosmic creation in v1.
v3 starts with AND, which makes it part of he process begun in v1 and continued in v2.
 
Stan1953 said:
Day one is v1-5. V2 picks up the creation of light, immediately after the geological and cosmic creation in v1.
v3 starts with AND, which makes it part of he process begun in v1 and continued in v2.
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Sure, "And" can mean that verse 3 is a continuation of the creation process begun in verses 1 and 2, but does not necessarily mean that verses 1 and 2 belong to the first day.
 
Well there is no indication other wise, and it would be inconsistent with how all of Genesis is written to view it otherwise.
I really have nothing more to say on this issue.
 
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