Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 time gap?

[TOG]

TOG, read that verse again, it says God planted a Garden, in the east, and there he put the man after He created him. The garden was already there before Adam was created and nowhere does it say how long it was between the time God planted the garden up to the time God created Adam.

I certainly don't want to start an argument about it, but it seems obvious to me that a straightforward reading of the text gives the order...

1. then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.
2. And the Lord God planted a garden in Eden, in the east,
3. and there he put the man whom he had formed. (Gen. 2:7-8 ESV)

I'm not fluent in ancient Hebrew, and maybe there's some grammar there that indicated something I don't see, but from my understanding of the English translation, it looks like it's telling the story in the order it happened.

The TOG​

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

Yes, God is Right. God created everything simply, and mankind corrupted everything (and complicated it) with bad stories.
Believe God. (He holds our lives in His Hands.)

 

[for_his_glory]

I certainly don't want to start an argument about it, but it seems obvious to me that a straightforward reading of the text gives the order...

1. then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.
2. And the Lord God planted a garden in Eden, in the east,
3. and there he put the man whom he had formed. (Gen. 2:7-8 ESV)

I'm not fluent in ancient Hebrew, and maybe there's some grammar there that indicated something I don't see, but from my understanding of the English translation, it looks like it's telling the story in the order it happened.

The TOG​

Me either TOG as I will never argue as I hate arguing as it gets no one anywhere. I'm not fluent in ancient Hebrew either, but not every verse is chronologically in order as I see in these verses that the garden was created first. If you go back to Genesis 2:4, 5 it says the creation of man came next after that of the creation of heaven and earth for there was no man to till the ground and on the sixth day God created man. I only wanted to point that out as there are no other intentions involved.

 

[TOG]

Me either TOG as I will never argue as I hate arguing as it gets no one anywhere. I'm not fluent in ancient Hebrew either, but not every verse is chronologically in order as I see in these verses that the garden was created first. If you go back to Genesis 2:4, 5 it says the creation of man came next after that of the creation of heaven and earth for there was no man to till the ground and on the sixth day God created man. I only wanted to point that out as there are no other intentions involved.

I used to believe in the gap theory, so I understand the logic behind what you're saying. But there were a few things that made me change my mind. According to the gap theory, Satan was thrown down to earth before the (re) creation we read about in Genesis chapter 1, and this is what made the world become "without form and void". But if Satan was there, how could God look at the world and say "it is very good" (Gen. 1:31)? Surely Satan, in his fallen state, was not "very good".

The TOG​

 

[ironmonk]

Well the gap theory is not a real theory.

Theory[ thee-uh-ree, theer-ee ]
noun [plural the·o·ries.]
1. a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity.
2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.
3. a body of principles, theorems, or the like, belonging to one subject: number theory.

 

[for_his_glory]

TOG, I can only go by that of Isaiah 14:12-14; Ezekiel 28:12-18; Job 38:4-7; Genesis 3:1-14; Job 1:6, 7, Ezekiel Chapter 31; Genesis 1:28; 9:1. I wouldn't call it a gap theory as much as I would call it trying to understand why God said to replenish the earth as in replenishing the people once again. From the time of God creating the heavens and the earth as earth was without form and void of waters, vegetation animals and humans we see there is no accurate timing of days as we see them to be a 24 hour period as Gods timing is not as our timing. We only read that of the creation of Adam mentioned in Genesis, but what about who might have been here before him remains a certain mystery that can be found within the OT if we dig deeper into the word of God.

 

[TOG]

Well the gap theory is not a real theory.

Theory[ thee-uh-ree, theer-ee ]
noun [plural the·o·ries.]
1. a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity.
2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.
3. a body of principles, theorems, or the like, belonging to one subject: number theory.

That's the definnition of a scientific theory. Nobody is saying that the gap theory is scientific.

The TOG​

 

[ironmonk]

That's the definnition of a scientific theory. Nobody is saying that the gap theory is scientific.

The TOG​

In appropriate language edited by reba

 

[Michael74]

This is something that is very intriguing to my scientific mind and amazingly enough there is a lot of scripture to support a time gap of unknown years (possibly millions or even BILLIONS) between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. It would explain scientific fossil age testing and the dinosaurs as well as "pre-adam" forms of man like homo-erectus, etc.

Thoughts?

Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. Genesis 1:2 NIV

This exactly what physics says about conditions on the early earth. From the point of view of someone hovering over the surface, the early earth would be formless and empty, and thick cloud cover would produce darkness.

The events in Genesis happen in exactly the order that physics says they happened, from the point of view of someone hovering over the surface of the earth. Physics only disagrees with people interpreting Yom as 24 hours (the word Yom had multiple meaning in OT times).

I will let you interpret the word day (Yom) for yourself. I just find it interesting that physics and the Bible agree on the specific order of creation events. The more science learns, the more science proves that the Bible is correct.

 

[agua.]

I used to believe in the gap theory, so I understand the logic behind what you're saying. But there were a few things that made me change my mind. According to the gap theory, Satan was thrown down to earth before the (re) creation we read about in Genesis chapter 1, and this is what made the world become "without form and void". But if Satan was there, how could God look at the world and say "it is very good" (Gen. 1:31)? Surely Satan, in his fallen state, was not "very good".

The TOG​

But if Satan was there, how could God look at the world and say "it is very good" (Gen. 1:31)? Surely Satan, in his fallen state, was not "very good".

Is it possible "very good" refers to the things that were created from Gen 1:2 onwards ? ie. The Earth and contents made for the habitation of man made in Yahweh's likeness ?.

 

[kickedoutofchurch]

I see a few problems with that theory. Quite a few, in fact. Your article says...



Or maybe He was like a potter, who starts out with a formless lump of clay, which he uses to make a thing of beauty.



That's not what "after" means in this context. It means "according to their kind".

Then there are a number of other points to consider. For example the sun, moon and stars were not created until the 4th day. Was there just the earth and nothing else for all those millions of years between the first two verses? And then there's the problem of death. Death, according to the Bible, is a result of sin. Sin entered the world through Adam, but there was, presumably death during the ages between the first two verses.

The gap theory is intended to reconcile two irreconcilable theories - that the world was created in 6 days and that it evolved over billions of years - but it fits neither theory. There are serious problems with it, both scientific and theological.

The TOG​

Hi TOG,

Those are all very good valid points. I'd like to address each of them, but allow me to shift to verse 2 if I may. I want to show you that there is compelling scriptural evidence of the following:

1. There was a judgment that occurred before Genesis 1:2 that caused the Earth to become "formless and void".
2. Many of the things that already exist in Genesis 1:2 were created before this verse.

Let's review both verses:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. Genesis 1:1-2 NASB

1. Please notice a couple things I have highlighted. First, the earth was formless and void. These are the same description of the Earth after judgment. Please compare those words to the future judgment that Jeremiah predicted would happen.

I looked on the earth, and behold, it was formless and void; And to the heavens, and they had no light Jeremiah 4:23

Sure looks like the same type of post judgment destruction, doesn't it? Could Jeremiah be possibly predicting what the realm of Earth will look like after the present world system of Babylon is destroyed? I think so. Thus, it sure looks like the Earth in Genesis 2 had a similar judgment prior.

2. Next, please notice that darkness already existed in verse 2 and so did the deep. There is no account of either of these being created or formed. However, God does tell us in other areas that he himself created these things. "Lady wisdom" in Proverbs 8 tells us she was already there with God when they were created.

“When He established the heavens, I was there,
When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep Proverbs 8:27

So, we can see there was a time when God did establish the Heavens. She also says below there was a time before dust was created. Yet we see no dust being created in Genesis 1:2. "Dust" already existed. (I have found in other scripture that this is not yet physical "dust" but it is spiritual dust.)

While He had not yet made the earth and the fields,
Nor the first dust of the world. Proverbs 8:26

3. Again, in verse 2, darkness already was present. However, God tells us in Isaiah 45:7 that he is the one who creates light and forms darkness. Darkness already existed in verse 2. It had to have been created before this time.

This is only a small sample. There is a LOT of further evidence that many things had to have been already created prior to Genesis 1:2.

Kicked

 

[Sinthesis]

It seems to me these kinds of speculation tell more about the desires of the interpreter than any reality of creation. Once one claims the existence of a gap in scripture, who defines what can and cannot be asserted into the gap?

 

[Deborah13]

The Hebrew word that means 'fill' is translated as 'replenish'.
The problem is that in our modern English we always think that a word the begins with 're' means to do something again. But the word replenish is not a modern English word or even a Very old word but the old English did not mean to redo something.
Origin of REPLENISH
Middle English replenisshen, from Anglo-French repleniss-, stem of replenir to fill, from re- + plein full, from Latin plenus — more at full
First Known Use: 14th century
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/replenish

In old English the word replenish just means 'to fill'.

Take a look at the Hebrew and transliteration in,

1
ְ ר
phru
be-
fruitful-you
(p)
!
רְ ב
u·rbu
and·increase-you
(p)
!
מִ לְ א
u·mlau
and·fill-you
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/gen9.pdf

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

Replenish the earth
Were Adam and Eve supposed to fill the planet with their descendants—or to refill it?

by Carl Wieland

Were Adam and Eve supposed to fill the planet with their descendants—or to refill it?

“And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth … .” (Genesis 1:28a, KJV)
CMI’s speakers have noticed of late that in spite of the overwhelming array of biblical facts against it, the hoary old ‘gap theory’ (or one of its many variants) still occasionally rears its head in unexpected places. It basically involves the belief that the recent six-day creation in Genesis is really only a re-creation. This allegedly ‘second’ creation is supposed to have taken place upon an Earth that became empty, having once been filled.....
People reading the KJV in earlier times would have likely understood replenish to mean exactly what the Hebrew word means, i.e. fill.

By seeing the word ‘replenish’, people think (not surprisingly), “Isn’t God telling us that he wants Adam and Eve to refill the world? And doesn’t that mean that it had previously been filled, then emptied?”

But as any Hebrew interlinear Bible or Bible dictionary will tell you, the word translated as ‘replenish’ in Genesis 1:28 is the Hebrew verb מלאו (mil’û), which simply means fill. Not refill. Which is why most modern versions translate the word in Genesis 1:28 as fill. But this does not necessarily mean that the King James translators made a mistake here. They seem to have known what the Hebrew word meant, as shown by the fact that in most other places it appears in the OT, they simply translated it as ‘fill’.

 

[Butch5]

This is something that is very intriguing to my scientific mind and amazingly enough there is a lot of scripture to support a time gap of unknown years (possibly millions or even BILLIONS) between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. It would explain scientific fossil age testing and the dinosaurs as well as "pre-adam" forms of man like homo-erectus, etc.

I wrote about it in a post at this link.

http://wp.me/p4zT1X-fL

Thoughts?

Kicked

In my opinion this passage puts that theory to rest.

8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work,
10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.
11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it. (Exo 20:8-11 NKJ)

The context of verse 9 is clearly six 24 hour days, I believe verse 11 has to be the same or there is no comparison

 

[TOG]

Hi TOG,

Those are all very good valid points. I'd like to address each of them,

Please do, as you didn't in this post.

but allow me to shift to verse 2 if I may. I want to show you that there is compelling scriptural evidence of the following:

1. There was a judgment that occurred before Genesis 1:2 that caused the Earth to become "formless and void".
2. Many of the things that already exist in Genesis 1:2 were created before this verse.

Let's review both verses:

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. Genesis 1:1-2 NASB

1. Please notice a couple things I have highlighted. First, the earth was formless and void. These are the same description of the Earth after judgment. Please compare those words to the future judgment that Jeremiah predicted would happen.

I looked on the earth, and behold, it was formless and void; And to the heavens, and they had no light Jeremiah 4:23

Sure looks like the same type of post judgment destruction, doesn't it? Could Jeremiah be possibly predicting what the realm of Earth will look like after the present world system of Babylon is destroyed? I think so. Thus, it sure looks like the Earth in Genesis 2 had a similar judgment prior.

You're reading things into the verse that aren't there. There is no mention of judgment or anything else causing the earth to become formless, but only a statement that it was formless.

2. Next, please notice that darkness already existed in verse 2 and so did the deep. There is no account of either of these being created or formed.

Darkness didn't have to be created. Darkness is the absence of light, so before God created light, everything was dark. There was no need to create darkness separately. And please notice when God created light and dispelled the darkness.

And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. (Gen. 1:3 ESV)​

God created light after verse two. Are we to believe that the earth had existed for millions or billions of years and that animals and plants (which need light for photosynthesis) lived and died during all that time in complete darkness? The word translated as "the deep" is derived from a word that implies chaos, and refers to the formless and void earth. That doesn't mean there had to be a gap, but that, before God started working on it and creating mountains, valleys, rivers, life and so on, the earth didn't yet have any form or organization to it.

So, we can see there was a time when God did establish the Heavens.

Nobody is denying that.

She also says below there was a time before dust was created. Yet we see no dust being created in Genesis 1:2. "Dust" already existed. (I have found in other scripture that this is not yet physical "dust" but it is spiritual dust.)

The dust refers to the soil. It was created at the same time as the earth. How does that prove a gap?

3. Again, in verse 2, darkness already was present. However, God tells us in Isaiah 45:7 that he is the one who creates light and forms darkness. Darkness already existed in verse 2. It had to have been created before this time.

See above.

This is only a small sample. There is a LOT of further evidence that many things had to have been already created prior to Genesis 1:2.

Kicked[/quote]

A small sample of what? None of this supports the gap theory, and none of it addresses my points, which you said you were going to address.

The TOG​

 

[veryberry]

2 Samuel 22 : 8-16

8. Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth.
9. There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
10. He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet.
11. And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind.
12. And he made darkness pavilions round about him, dark waters, and thick clouds of the skies.
13. Through the brightness before him were coals of fire kindled.
14. The LORD thundered from heaven, and the most High uttered his voice.
15. And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and discomfited them.
16. And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils

 

[kickedoutofchurch]

Here is the one we trust. We don't trust anyone external teaching us anything and NOT even ourselves.

It seems to me these kinds of speculation tell more about the desires of the interpreter than any reality of creation. Once one claims the existence of a gap in scripture, who defines what can and cannot be asserted into the gap?

What a beautiful question! Here is what I have personally learned and it has profoundly changed my walk with the Lord and my entire life in ways I can't begin to describe.

Who defines what goes into the possible "gap" and what doesn't? Isn't the question we are really asking is "Who defines what is truth and what isn't"?

Ponder these verses for a while before reading what I shared below them.

You have an anointing from the Holy One and know all things 1 John 2:20 ISV (some translations will say "you all know", but after careful study of Greek language I have personally concluded it should say "you know all things")

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him 1 John 2:27 KJV

I hope you will spend some time meditating or pondering or thinking about the above very powerful verses. They are truth just as they are stated. They are true 100% of the time.

Thus, from these powerful scriptures, I have derived this answer.

We trust the one who is our very teacher who is inside us and one with our inner man and true self our spirit man - Jesus himself. 1 Corinthians 6:17 We do not trust anything else that is external via any human including ourselves without a confirmation from both the written Word of God and most-importantly the very Living Word of God who lives inside us.

My friends, this is one of the most powerful things a believer can have God reveal to them! Unfortunately, there are so many carnal Christians who NEVER verify internally anything they are taught. Many don't even know the external version of the written Word. Look at the strong words of Paul in Galatians 3:3.

Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?

It's sad as they simply believe what they are told and blindly follow the things they are taught they should believe. Jesus called these "traditions of man" that are perpetuated via man-made, external religion which is the flesh or external man. Mark 7:13 Often, it makes you even wonder if they even have the Spirit inside.

Contrary to the entire religious system that works via external teachings and regulations, we don't need any human teachers. We have the ONE master teacher (or pastor) living inside us and everything he tells us is truth and not a lie. When we learn to follow his voice within, we are "abiding in him" as Jesus told us in John 15. His beautiful voice will always align up with scripture because he is the actual living version of the written Word and he wrote it himself. After a while a true follower will learn very quickly to discern his voice. This is walking by the Spirit and it is very powerful and life-changing. Everything else that is not from the inner man inside is walking by the flesh because the Spirit inside has not confirmed any of it.

This doesn't mean we listen to NO one externally. As a matter of fact, we have even MORE freedom and are free to listen to ANYONE and everyone! 1 Thes 5:21 This is because once we learn to listen to and follow the Spirit he will always confirm via written and personal spoken Word inside you! This is the true FREEDOM that Jesus promised us and it's so awesome. It is his job to teach you to "discern good from evil". Hebrews 5:14 God calls ALL things that aren't directly from the spirit inside us evil including our own soul.

Anything that insists you learn externally and does not teach you to follow the very one master teacher inside you is thus, false religion. Even worse yet, this false religion actually encourages you to NOT listen from within and follow his voice. This is a voice of a thief who does not come in through the gate (of Christ inside you) but his true sheep will not recognize his voice and flee. There is a lot of this out there today and this thief wants to keep you away from your one master inside you so you continue to listen to and blindly follow them instead of Jesus.

Please don't fall for it. Please learn to listen to the beautiful voice of the master who lives inside you. He encourages us to examine ALL things and hold fast to what is good. 1 Thes 5:21 He will confirm what is "good" from within you as it will feed you life via the "rivers of living waters" and he spit out all else that is not true. Here is an amazing type that he revealed to us from the physical creation.

He showed us this entire process when he made the human digestive system. Look at how it takes in ALL food without discerning "good" energy from "bad" waste. Then, the stomach itself separates the "good" or useable energy (life) from the bad or evil "waste". Then, it eliminates the waste (evil) and FEEDS you the LIFE or energy. The body and digestive system takes care of all this without you even thinking about it. Isn't this amazing and powerful!?!

Jesus is the TRUE "bread" or food from heaven. Our physical food is only "shadow" food and not the real substance. Colossians 2:17! AMEN an PRAISE GOD for his wonderful MYSTERY! We can truly take in anything and everything we hear and Jesus will remove the waste or evil and only feed you the life (energy). This is so powerful when you see it and begin to live according to it.

We are so free in Christ and he alone IS our life! Gal 2:20

God bless you.


Kicked
Please visit www.kickedoutofchurch.com to see the things I am so humbled and privileged to share.

 

[Sinthesis]

Here is the one we trust. We don't trust anyone external teaching us anything and NOT even ourselves.


What a beautiful question! Here is what I have personally learned and it has profoundly changed my walk with the Lord and my entire life in ways I can't begin to describe.

Who defines what goes into the possible "gap" and what doesn't? Isn't the question we are really asking is "Who defines what is truth and what isn't"?

Ponder these verses for a while before reading what I shared below them.

You have an anointing from the Holy One and know all things 1 John 2:20 ISV (some translations will say "you all know", but after careful study of Greek language I have personally concluded it should say "you know all things")

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him 1 John 2:27 KJV

I hope you will spend some time meditating or pondering or thinking about the above very powerful verses. They are truth just as they are stated. They are true 100% of the time.

Thus, from these powerful scriptures, I have derived this answer.

We trust the one who is our very teacher who is inside us and one with our inner man and true self our spirit man - Jesus himself. 1 Corinthians 6:17 We do not trust anything else that is external via any human including ourselves without a confirmation from both the written Word of God and most-importantly the very Living Word of God who lives inside us.

My friends, this is one of the most powerful things a believer can have God reveal to them! Unfortunately, there are so many carnal Christians who NEVER verify internally anything they are taught. Many don't even know the external version of the written Word. Look at the strong words of Paul in Galatians 3:3.

Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?

It's sad as they simply believe what they are told and blindly follow the things they are taught they should believe. Jesus called these "traditions of man" that are perpetuated via man-made, external religion which is the flesh or external man. Mark 7:13 Often, it makes you even wonder if they even have the Spirit inside.

Contrary to the entire religious system that works via external teachings and regulations, we don't need any human teachers. We have the ONE master teacher (or pastor) living inside us and everything he tells us is truth and not a lie. When we learn to follow his voice within, we are "abiding in him" as Jesus told us in John 15. His beautiful voice will always align up with scripture because he is the actual living version of the written Word and he wrote it himself. After a while a true follower will learn very quickly to discern his voice. This is walking by the Spirit and it is very powerful and life-changing. Everything else that is not from the inner man inside is walking by the flesh because the Spirit inside has not confirmed any of it.

This doesn't mean we listen to NO one externally. As a matter of fact, we have even MORE freedom and are free to listen to ANYONE and everyone! 1 Thes 5:21 This is because once we learn to listen to and follow the Spirit he will always confirm via written and personal spoken Word inside you! This is the true FREEDOM that Jesus promised us and it's so awesome. It is his job to teach you to "discern good from evil". Hebrews 5:14 God calls ALL things that aren't directly from the spirit inside us evil including our own soul.

Anything that insists you learn externally and does not teach you to follow the very one master teacher inside you is thus, false religion. Even worse yet, this false religion actually encourages you to NOT listen from within and follow his voice. This is a voice of a thief who does not come in through the gate (of Christ inside you) but his true sheep will not recognize his voice and flee. There is a lot of this out there today and this thief wants to keep you away from your one master inside you so you continue to listen to and blindly follow them instead of Jesus.

Please don't fall for it. Please learn to listen to the beautiful voice of the master who lives inside you. He encourages us to examine ALL things and hold fast to what is good. 1 Thes 5:21 He will confirm what is "good" from within you as it will feed you life via the "rivers of living waters" and he spit out all else that is not true. Here is an amazing type that he revealed to us from the physical creation.

He showed us this entire process when he made the human digestive system. Look at how it takes in ALL food without discerning "good" energy from "bad" waste. Then, the stomach itself separates the "good" or useable energy (life) from the bad or evil "waste". Then, it eliminates the waste (evil) and FEEDS you the LIFE or energy. The body and digestive system takes care of all this without you even thinking about it. Isn't this amazing and powerful!?!

Jesus is the TRUE "bread" or food from heaven. Our physical food is only "shadow" food and not the real substance. Colossians 2:17! AMEN an PRAISE GOD for his wonderful MYSTERY! We can truly take in anything and everything we hear and Jesus will remove the waste or evil and only feed you the life (energy). This is so powerful when you see it and begin to live according to it.

We are so free in Christ and he alone IS our life! Gal 2:20

God bless you.


Kicked
Please visit www.kickedoutofchurch.com to see the things I am so humbled and privileged to share.

It all sounds very 'new-aged' and self-satisfying. The danger here is the temptation to define any other Christian who doesn't agree with one's own special revelation of truth as some lesser type of Christian or worse. The simple fact is that Christians can have differences of opinion amongst themselves regarding unessential aspects of the faith. Claiming a hotline to the truth of all things via the Holy Spirit is simply a vanity we should not entertain if we are to love others as ourselves.

 

[reba]

The simple fact is that Christians can have differences of opinion amongst themselves regarding unessential aspects of the faith.