[ Testimony ] How I left the faith

[Edward]

you should know that I don't "lust for" women. Anyways, since I do not believe in God, the logical consequence is that no God watches over me.

Yeah I know you're a homo. But I'm not changing my speech patterns to suit you. Besides, if I had said you was a homo then you'd be all like a victim, I'm hit! He hit me! unfair unfair! And I'd rather not hear you whine, lol.

Is it ok with you if I talk about girls? Hey I should thank you? You left an extra girl out there for me!

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Yes.

No, I do care, but whether I care or not has no effect on the truth.

This is very impressive!! You have grasped at a young age the concept of absolute truth. I am very impressed.

 

[christian1724]

Edward,
Well now there's a question. Did Jesus lust for women and if not was He a homo?

 

[T. E. Smith]

Yeah I know you're a homo. But I'm not changing my speech patterns to suit you. Besides, if I had said you was a homo then you'd be all like a victim, I'm hit! He hit me! unfair unfair! And I'd rather not hear you whine, lol.

Is it ok with you if I talk about girls? Hey I should thank you? You left an extra girl out there for me!

Has anyone ever told you that you're a real jerk?

 

[Edward]

Edward,
Well now there's a question. Did Jesus lust for women and if not was He a homo?

No and no because he was in control of himself and wasn't blind to the truth either.

 

[Edward]

Has anyone ever told you that you're a real jerk?

But of course and why not? I have sons older than you, little brother. They're fully raised now and maybe you tink they never got mad at me?! Lol,

You see it's all about their tone. Some days they have a reasonable tone so I mirror that and was nice to them. Those days they woke up on the wrong side of the bed and come out with a bad tone...well, I hope you don't think that I'd take take a teenagers bad attitude so hey, it's a natural thing to push back when one is pushed.

IDK man, it seems the same with you. Sme days you have an ok tone. Other days, you don't. Personally I think it's less of me being a jerk and more of your tone and the type of responses you get when you use that tone. Why do you deserve special treatment? That's sorta childish to hold that expectation.

When a 18 month old baby snags your keys off the table and goes out and keys your car real good in the driveway...you don't get the baby in trouble, he's only 18 months old and don't know any better. You give him special treatment. But boy, you are not 18 months old. You are 17...so you get no free ride. So I speak matter of factly to you. Geez, learn how to speak Diplomat and learn how to take one on the chin in conversation why don't you?

If you think I'm hard on you (Lol!!!) I can't wait to hear about you metting a real punk. Stand up and dust yourself off. You're ok. It'll heal, lol.

 

[Edward]

Here's a video which blows evolution out of the water. This man is chock full of good information.

 

[T. E. Smith]

Here's a video which blows evolution out of the water. This man is chock full of good information.

1) Does not explain the origins of God, who must be more complex than creation.
2) The environment is not meant for life - life is meant for the environment. Had the constants been different, a different form of life could have evolved. I explain this crucial error here at my blog : https://solarationis.com/2022/03/28/the-designed-banana-reversing-id/

 

[Dorothy Mae]

1) Does not explain the origins of God, who must be more complex than creation.
2) The environment is not meant for life - life is meant for the environment. Had the constants been different, a different form of life could have evolved. I explain this crucial error here at my blog : https://solarationis.com/2022/03/28/the-designed-banana-reversing-id/

God is uncreated. There is no evidence that life evolves from non-life.

 

[Edward]

1) Does not explain the origins of God, who must be more complex than creation.
2) The environment is not meant for life - life is meant for the environment. Had the constants been different, a different form of life could have evolved. I explain this crucial error here at my blog : https://solarationis.com/2022/03/28/the-designed-banana-reversing-id/

You're funny! Why should I believe anything you say or write? There's no need to read your tripe. You have to be wrong about constants. You don't even know that women are for men, and you want to tell me where I'm wrong about God?! Good one!

 

[T. E. Smith]

God is uncreated. There is no evidence that life evolves from non-life.

and I would argue that the universe is uncreated.

You're funny! Why should I believe anything you say or write? There's no need to read your tripe. You have to be wrong about constants. You don't even know that women are for men, and you want to tell me where I'm wrong about God?! Good one!

Then don't read it. No need to be so rude and mocking about it.

 

[Edward]

Then don't read it. No need to be so rude and mocking about it.

Much better. I like your tone there. So we can sure be friends if you like. Try not to let the pride bubble over and learn to speak diplomat. Because this isn't a gay pride site. It's not a Atheist pride site or Fox news channel. This is the Jesus Freaks site! But there's not a bunch of sissies here either, so have some respect in your tone to us. There are people here, who can help you and answer your questions...if you want help.

I turn 60 years old in less than a month. Chances are good that I might know a few things that you don't.

But if you don't want help, then your own occassional rude and mocking comments make more sense to me. There's a lot that we havent heard yet from you, isn't there? Who hurt you so bad that would wish retaliation on Christians by being a disrespectful punk to them?

Now calm down and just take that on the chin and shake it off, then answer the question. That's how men talk. That's how adults talk. I think we're headed in the right direction.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

and I would argue that the universe is uncreated.


Me:
You would be in good company as Aristotle taught that. The problem there is it has discovered that the universe had a starting point. It is scientifically established that the world is created and not always existing. (Atheist) scientists fought that discovery tooth and nail, by the way.

 

[T. E. Smith]

Dorothy Mae though the world has a beginning, it was not created by anyone.

 

[T. E. Smith]

Much better. I like your tone there. So we can sure be friends if you like. Try not to let the pride bubble over and learn to speak diplomat. Because this isn't a gay pride site. It's not a Atheist pride site or Fox news channel. This is the Jesus Freaks site! But there's not a bunch of sissies here either, so have some respect in your tone to us. There are people here, who can help you and answer your questions...if you want help.

I turn 60 years old in less than a month. Chances are good that I might know a few things that you don't.

But if you don't want help, then your own occassional rude and mocking comments make more sense to me. There's a lot that we havent heard yet from you, isn't there? Who hurt you so bad that would wish retaliation on Christians by being a disrespectful punk to them?

Now calm down and just take that on the chin and shake it off, then answer the question. That's how men talk. That's how adults talk. I think we're headed in the right direction.

I have hardly been outspoken here regarding being a "homo." You presume much, but know little.
"Who hurt me so that I wish retaliation?" How do you presume to know I've been hurt? Why would that even make me want to retaliate against people online?
Do you realize the magnitude of the emails I get from readers of my blog explaining to me how "the people who hurt you weren't showing true Christianity"? The answer is a lot. But they're all wrong. My beliefs have nothing to do with being hurt.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Dorothy Mae though the world has a beginning, it was not created by anyone.

You know that for a fact? Nothing gathered itself together by chance and exploded into everything. That takes some faith, blind faith I might add. We see evidence of intelligent design. You can see no evidence of self-creation and yet believe it.

 

[Edward]

"Who hurt me so that I wish retaliation?" How do you presume to know I've been hurt? Why would that even make me want to retaliate against people online?

Oh come now young man, What's so hard about that? You wear your heart on your shirt sleeve. Ok listen, I was 17 once. I had 17 year old boys once. As you get older, you start being able to see things in the world with more clarity. It's just a consequence of being conscious longer. And if others have not been paying attention, then it's fairly regular thing to be able to see things faster than they do. I've seen it before! Apparently, from what you say, many others see the same thing in you. Wow! And I thought I was just making all this up, lol!!!

Not to mention when one draws closer to God, our God is soo cool that He will illuminate things for us. And it becomes easier for the Christian person to have instantly greater insight into many things and people.

I can almost tell within 5 minutes time if a person reads his bible or not, just by how they talk. This stuff isn't hard, son. The kind of things you respond to and the questions that you absolutely ignore tell a great deal about you. You can't see that? What's unsaid is just as telling as what you do say.

The Bible says, for those without wisdom, let them ask God, who will give to them liberally...and I'll be honest with you, I've been praying for wisdom and understanding for a long time now! Years.

So you should be honest with us little brother. Can you answer two simple questions without ignoring them?!

Are you here on the Christian website, seeking Christian help?
If the answer is no, then why are you here?

 

[Edward]

And you know what, T.E.? You said you've read the Bible 7 times from cover to cover. I'm soory bro, but I don't believe you.

When someone posts and gives you some Christian precept which sort of puts you on the spot or asks you a question, I think you go and google, how to debunk xxx? (whatever), and then you post a link and an article (as if it is a given that it is true!) and basically, you dodge the entire question or precpt that you prolly brought up in the first place.

Then when someone asks you to expound further, or makes a question about what the article (supposedly your belief!), and you are never able to respond to that. You just try to let the article stand on it's own merits (if any) and pretend that you're right by not responding to questions about your own belief system.

So I feel inclined to call bs on you have read the Bible 7 times.

Maybe you have, but I doubt it. If you did, you read it carnally and with a hardened heart and are therefore unable to perceive spiritual truths.

 

[Edward]

You know that for a fact? Nothing gathered itself together by chance and exploded into everything. That takes some faith, blind faith I might add. We see evidence of intelligent design. You can see no evidence of self-creation and yet believe it.

First there was nothing. Then it exploded!

A tornado went the junk yard and assembled all of the debris onto a fully functional 747 Jumbo jet!

And that's Science!

 

[T. E. Smith]

Apparently, from what you say, many others see the same thing in you. Wow! And I thought I was just making all this up, lol!!!

Yep, a lot of atheists report that believers often ask "who hurt you?" But not just that. Go to any Christian website on "how to preach the gospel," and I bet you'll find a "tip" telling the prospective gospel preacher to ask the atheist who hurt them. Because that's the Christian narrative.

So you should be honest with us little brother. Can you answer two simple questions without ignoring them?!

Are you here on the Christian website, seeking Christian help?
If the answer is no, then why are you here?

Keep calling me "little brother", and I'll call you "old man." If that offends you, well, "do to others as you would have them do to you."

1) No, I am not particularly seeking Christian help.
2) Community.

And you know what, T.E.? You said you've read the Bible 7 times from cover to cover. I'm soory bro, but I don't believe you.

Then don't. What do I care?

then you post a link and an article (as if it is a given that it is true!) and basically, you dodge the entire question or precpt that you prolly brought up in the first place.

Says the guy who drops a link to a YouTube video. If you're talking about my blog post link, at least I actually wrote that myself.

Maybe you have, but I doubt it. If you did, you read it carnally and with a hardened heart and are therefore unable to perceive spiritual truths.

Very convenient. Anyone who doesn't reach the same conclusions as you can be judged this way.