Seriously though, What Brother Johan has been talkin' about to Free, that I commented on. Understanding of God's Word and Will, must come by revelation. Spiritual matters are spiritually discerned and no other way. The rational, or carnal mind has no place with the things of God.
The Bible disagrees with you:
Isa 1:18 "Come now, let us reason together, says the LORD: though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall become like wool.
Act 17:2 And Paul went in, as was his custom, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures,
Act 17:3 explaining and proving that it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead, and saying, "This Jesus, whom I proclaim to you, is the Christ."
Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and tried to persuade Jews and Greeks.
Act 18:19 And they came to Ephesus, and he left them there, but he himself went into the synagogue and reasoned with the Jews.
Act 22:1 "Brothers and fathers, hear the defense that I now make before you." (The whole chapter is Paul giving a reasoned defense. And there are numerous examples of this.)
Act 24:24 After some days Felix came with his wife Drusilla, who was Jewish, and he sent for Paul and heard him speak about faith in Christ Jesus.
Act 24:25 And as he reasoned about righteousness and self-control and the coming judgment, Felix was alarmed and said, "Go away for the present. When I get an opportunity I will summon you."
Jas 3:17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere.
1Pe 3:15 but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,
(All ESV.)
The problem is that you are beginning with the very thing you are trying to prove, rather than letting the texts speak for themselves. You cannot begin by presuming that reason came about after the fall (not based on Scripture) and is therefore not of God.
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.../(KJV)
This is about unbelievers.
It's hard to imagine not using ones rational intellect for we've been (handicapped) by it our entire lives from birth. Brother Johan is speaking the truth. We're to be led of the Spirit. What's so hard about understanding that?
The two
are not mutually exclusive.
John 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.../
And this is being spoken specifically to the disciples. The result is the establishment of the Church and the writings of the NT.
This is Christianity 101 Brothers and Sisters.Edited reba You guys are giving more credit to the enemy than you are God! You would be slaughtered by Goliath. WHere's the faith? All I can see is unbelief.
It's because you're reading into things. This has nothing to do with unbelief nor is anyone "giving more credit to the enemy than [we] are God".
And an effort to steer people away from engaging the Holy Spirit of God...and receive revelation!
Revelation about
what, exactly? No one is steering anyone "away from engaging the Holy Spirit". It should be said though that you are steering people away from using their God-given, God-created reason.
We've never been taught how to walk in the Spirit, or to live as the spirit-beings that we were created as. It's not occultist. It's not dangerous, IT IS LIFE.
And
you have yet to even prove that that is the case. What
is exceedingly dangerous are your now numerous beliefs that have no foundation in Scripture.
You so scared of evil spirits that you'll refuse God too, just to be on the safe side or something?! That's insane. There's absolutely no danger to it whatsoever. The worst thing that can happen, is God wont show up, because He does things in His own time frame. Keep praying. Keep engaging..
That is
far from the worst that can happen. The worst that can, and does, happen, is that one starts believing in all sorts of nonsense about Scripture, believing that they've heard from the Holy Spirit, and end up believing and teaching heresy, condemning themselves and those who believe them to hell. Charles Russell comes to mind, as does a former friend who wouldn't listen to reason and now believes all sorts of nonsense about God and the Bible.
This is plastered all over the Bible and it can't be ignored to hold the flesh up up over Spirit. That man's dead. Get out of the religious box, God's bigger than that. No, everything about Him is not written down in scripture. If you don't want to ever receive anything more than the scripture...at least do what It says
So you are saying that Scripture is insufficient. That explains a lot. The Bible is everything we need for salvation and living lives of godliness. The Bible warns against adding to Scripture.
If the carnal rational mind is your champion, I feel sorry for you. It's a big interesting universe and we're in the palm of our Lord's hands...!!!
Be is so to you according to your faith, although it sounds like...unbelief.
Nothing at all to do with unbelief; everything to do with what the Bible does and does not say.