Is “Easter” in the original Scriptures?

[donadams]

Hey All,
How do you test what is being called "divine revelation Mr Adams?"

If the Pope said, "you have to eat French fries in order to be saved."

Do you follow that blindly?
Or do you test it against what we know to be divine revelation.

Acts 17:10-11 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

We have plenty of "name it and claim it" people within the protestant denominations. We have to be careful who has, or is given authority.

I personally do not believe any man or woman alive today speaks with apostolic authority. When John passed, the era of the apostles was brought to an end. That's why there are no new books being added to the Bible.

If what a person says cannot be backed up by Scripture, don't listen to them.

Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz

Do you believe scripture is the only authority?

How do we know for sure Jn 8:32 what is scripture?

 

[donadams]

How did Peter test what he received from the father? Matt 16:17?
Or JTB in Lk 3:2

 

[reddogs]

It’s not Sunday cos of sun worship but cos God created the sun on the 1st day

We now have a new covenant new creation new sabbath

Christ gave his church “all authority” Matt 28:19 Matt 16:18-19 and Matt 18:18 Jn 20:21

Whatsoever you bind on earth is bound in heaven!

Its pagan sun worship, anything but what God gives is fine with Satan and we see it here..

 

[Josef]

How did Peter test what he received from the father? Matt 16:17?
Or JTB in Lk 3:2

Hey All,

John 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.

Peter had it easy. He could ask the Word directly.

John the Baptist grew up with Jesus.

Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz

 

[Josef]

Do you believe scripture is the only authority?

How do we know for sure Jn 8:32 what is scripture?

Question one feels like a trap. It feels to me like you are ready to spring into action if I say yes. I would like to go a step further than you did.

Scripture is the final authority until Jesus comes back.
When you try and prove me wrong, what are you going to use to do it?
Scripture.
In making your argument, you are proving that Scripture is your authority as well.
Try making your argument without it.
You cannot do it.
Nothing else you try to use will carry the weight of what the Bible says.

The Bible is the final authority of all matters of faith and how to live, and how to treat others.
Amen.

Not really sure what you are asking about with John 8:32.

Keep walking.
May God bless,
Taz

 

[donadams]

Its pagan sun worship, anything but what God gives is fine with Satan and we see it here..

What do the pagans have to do with the resurrection of Jesus Christ???

2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light withdarkness?

 

[donadams]

Question one feels like a trap. It feels to me like you are ready to spring into action if I say yes. I would like to go a step further than you did.

Scripture is the final authority until Jesus comes back.
When you try and prove me wrong, what are you going to use to do it?
Scripture.
In making your argument, you are proving that Scripture is your authority as well.
Try making your argument without it.
You cannot do it.
Nothing else you try to use will carry the weight of what the Bible says.

The Bible is the final authority of all matters of faith and how to live, and how to treat others.
Amen.

Not really sure what you are asking about with John 8:32.

Keep walking.
May God bless,
Taz

We must believe and obey both Christ and the church He founded on the apostles (Matt 16:18-19) to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation! (Matt 28:19)

(Not scripture alone)
Sacred Scripture according to the churches cannon and interpretation? Yes!
Scripture alone? No!

Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things by, by whom also he made the worlds;

“Not by scripture alone”!

That’s the nail in the coffin of “Sola scriptura” it is dead and buried, “false doctrine” the doctrine of demons like all the sola’s!


For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Jn 1:17

Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life! Jn 14:6

And this extends to His apostolic church, Christ and His church are one and inseparable! Acts 9:4 Jn 15:5 eph 5:32 acts 2:42

One shepherd and one fold! Jn 10:16

The truth of the Christian faith and the church are of divine origin and cannot be reformed!

Jesus Christ is the Light of the world! Jn 8:12
Apostolic church the light of the world! Matt 5:14

Must Hear Jesus Christ! Matt 17:5
Acts 3:23
Must Hear the apostolic church! Matt 18:17 1 Jn 4:6

Authority of Jesus Christ! Matt 28:17
Authority of the apostles! Jn 20:21

Jesus Christ has Reconciliation!
2 cor 5:19
Apostles have ministry of Reconciliation! 2 cor 5:18

Jesus Christ have power to forgive mens sins! Lk 5:20 Jn
Apostles have power to forgive mens sins! Jn 20:23

Jesus Christ is the truth! Jn 14:6
The apostolic church is the pillar of truth! 1 Tim 3:16

For the apostolic authority in Holy church decided and decreed (bound on earth / bound in heaven) the canon of Scripture, and is the only authentic interpreter of scripture!

The Christian faith is revealed by Christ!

Jesus Christ before ascending to heaven gave His apostles the fullness of truth, the apostolic church our mother and teacher is commanded by Him to teach and to sanctify with her sacraments (the promise of the spirit) all men unto eternal salvation! We are commanded to believe and obey! Matt 28:19

How can the Protestant concept: “sacred scripture is the only infallible source of truth” be true? There must be some infallible source that must tell us what is the canon of scripture & has authority to interpret scripture!

It is impossible to reject the church or her teaching without rejecting Christ who founded the church and revealed her teaching!

You cannot reject the kingdom established by the king and say I obey and submit to the king!

Jesus Christ founded the new covenant church to teach and sanctify (baptize) all men unto eternal salvation! (Matt 28:19)

Christ and His church are one!
((Inseparable unity))
Acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 eph 5:32 Isa 53:5 Jn 15:5 eph 5:24

Only Christ has authority to establish the church! Matt 16:18-19
One church! Jn 10:16 All others are sects “full of errors” “the tradition of men”! The new covenant Church is the eternal city of God! Household of faith! The pillar and ground of TRUTH! 1 Tim 3:15 Founded by Christ alone! Matt 16:18 on Peter and the apostles! Eph 2:20 Lk 22:29

 

[reddogs]

What do the pagans have to do with the resurrection of Jesus Christ???

2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light withdarkness?

When you go and face the sun on Easter morning, its not Christ but the old pagan worship that is happening..

 

[donadams]

When you go and face the sun on Easter morning, its not Christ but the old pagan worship that is happening..

Worship requires intent all you get without it is a sun tan

 

[Grailhunter]

Do you believe Lucifer became Satan?

Or do you believe these are different beings?

The word Lucifer is not in the actual scriptures…..
Why not? Lucifer is a Latin word! Guess what? Some one put a Latin word in a Hebrew scripture. The scripture is referencing the morning star which is the Planet Venus and also the name of a goddess. The scripture actually reads….

“How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!
Isaiah 14:12

If you read the chapter you will see it is about a Pagan king.
One of many errors in the KJB.

 

[Grailhunter]

Now the festival of 'Easter' which the Catholic church used to shift the worship from Sabbath to Sunday

The Catholic Church nor the Ecumenical Councils had nothing to do with making Sunday the Lord’s day. That occurred in the 1st century.

 

[Grailhunter]

Is Easter in the original scriptures? LOL

Bible Only meets reality….actually there is a separate reality for the Bible Only people which ironically is not about the Bible.
What is not in the scriptures?
Christmas
Easter
A requirement for a wedding ceremony to be married.
The Lord’s Day worship on Sunday.
The requirement to stop polygamy and concubinage.
The requirement to stop slavery.
The requirement to build Church buildings.
Strangely enough Christ never told the Apostles to write anything down.

Just exactly what kind of religion do you people believe in?…..It would just be easier to convert to Judaism, then you would not have be concerned about any of this.

If you are going to thump the Bible get it right!

 

[hawkman]

The word Lucifer is not in the actual scriptures…..
Why not? Lucifer is a Latin word! Guess what? Some one put a Latin word in a Hebrew scripture. The scripture is referencing the morning star which is the Planet Venus and also the name of a goddess. The scripture actually reads….

“How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!
Isaiah 14:12

If you read the chapter you will see it is about a Pagan king.

You are right ! But people do not want to give up on the lucifer name , they like it I guess .

Strangely enough Christ never told the Apostles to write anything down.

Christ could have told them to write down things but it is not mentioned in the bible unless the book of Revelation counts .

 

[Grailhunter]

You are right ! But people do not want to give up on the lucifer name , they like it I guess .

The history of the word Lucifer is thin. The only reason I have found is that it sounds sinister and Christian translators were perplexed that Satan was not defined as a demon or devil in the Old Testament….same thing goes for Hell. God did not warn or speak of Satan as a devil and He never threatened the Israelites with Hell. To this day Jews do not believe in a devil or Hell.

Christ could have told them to write down things but it is not mentioned in the bible unless the book of Revelation counts

What do you see in Revelation?

 

[donadams]

The word Lucifer is not in the actual scriptures…..
Why not? Lucifer is a Latin word! Guess what? Some one put a Latin word in a Hebrew scripture. The scripture is referencing the morning star which is the Planet Venus and also the name of a goddess. The scripture actually reads….

“How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!
Isaiah 14:12

If you read the chapter you will see it is about a Pagan king.
One of many errors in the KJB.

I think he means KJV?

What about

Luke 10:18
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

And

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

[Grailhunter]

I think he means KJV?

lol Fat fingers B next to V

I think he means KJV?

What about

Luke 10:18
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

And

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

You are giving me all New Testament scriptures.

They were very aware of Satan in the New Testament.

And this war….when do you think it happened? Not that I do not believe there was war.

 

[Josef]

Is Easter in the original scriptures? LOL

Bible Only meets reality….actually there is a separate reality for the Bible Only people which ironically is not about the Bible.
What is not in the scriptures?
Christmas
Easter
A requirement for a wedding ceremony to be married.
The Lord’s Day worship on Sunday.
The requirement to stop polygamy and concubinage.
The requirement to stop slavery.
The requirement to build Church buildings.
Strangely enough Christ never told the Apostles to write anything down.

Just exactly what kind of religion do you people believe in?…..It would just be easier to convert to Judaism, then you would not have be concerned about any of this.

If you are going to thump the Bible get it right!

Hey All,
OK. Let's see if you are right Grailhunter.

What is not in the scriptures?
Christmas: (Grailhunter)

Luke 2:4-7 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David)
To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

We call this event Christmas because we, as believers, celebrate this day. Now realistically, Jesus was probably not born on 12/25. But who cares. We don't have to know the actual day. And it is never wrong to worship. As believers, we should celebrate Christmas every day. There is no requirement for this to be accurate. We celebrate, as believers, because that was the day God came down from heaven to be with us. It was the start of our being made free.

Easter: (Grailhunter)

Luke 24:1-3 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

Easter changes date every year because it occurs on the Sunday after the first full moon following the spring equinox. The lunar calendar is 29.5 days long, while the Gregorian calendar is not in sync, so Easter can fall between March 22 and April 25. For example, in 2024 Easter will be on March 31, and in 2086 it will be on March 31 again. So that's the reason for the changing date.

But whether it's called Resurection Sunday, or Easter, it means the same to us who believe.
A rose, by any other name, would still smell just as sweet. (to paraphrase Shakespeare) The important part never changes: He ain't there no mo. Anen.

"A requirement for a wedding ceremony to be married." (Grailhunter)

John 2:1-3 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.
And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.

So Jesus clearly was not opposed to weddings.



The Lord’s Day worship on Sunday. (Grailhunter)

Acts 20:5-7 These going before tarried for us at Troas.
And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

Sunday gathering to worship as a body became a tradition very early into Christandom.

Hebrews 10:23-25 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

So the admonishment of the writer of Hebrews is to not ignore the gathering of believers. Sunday is not required. A church I used to attend had a lot of young adults who worked weekends. They could not worship Sundays. That was just their economic reality. So we held Friday night services to accommodate them. When is not what is important. I can agree with you on that portion.

The requirement to stop polygamy and concubinage. (Grailhunter)

I am not aware of any Christian denomination that allows polygamy. Are you?
I am aware of the practice being allowed in Momonism. But they are a non-Christian cult.

The requirement to stop slavery. (Grailhunter)

I am not aware of any Christian denominations that endorse, or practice slavery. Are you?


The requirement to build Church buildings. (Grailhunter)

There was a requirement to build the temple in the Old Testament. The veil of which was torn when Jesus died. The disciples met in the upper room. So we can see a place for gathering is needed.

Strangely enough Christ never told the Apostles to write anything down. (Grailhunter)

If you saw what they saw, if you heard what they heard, could you keep it to yourself? The apostles could not be everywhere at once. It makes sense that they, or a scribe, would write their accounts with Jesus down as guidelines for the chuches they started.

Thump Thump.

I believe we did get it right.

Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz

 

[Grailhunter]

Hey All,
OK. Let's see if you are right Grailhunter.

What is not in the scriptures?
Christmas: (Grailhunter)

Luke 2:4-7 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David)
To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

We call this event Christmas because we, as believers, celebrate this day. Now realistically, Jesus was probably not born on 12/25. But who cares. We don't have to know the actual day. And it is never wrong to worship. As believers, we should celebrate Christmas every day. There is no requirement for this to be accurate. We celebrate, as believers, because that was the day God came down from heaven to be with us. It was the start of our being made free.

Easter: (Grailhunter)

Luke 24:1-3 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

Easter changes date every year because it occurs on the Sunday after the first full moon following the spring equinox. The lunar calendar is 29.5 days long, while the Gregorian calendar is not in sync, so Easter can fall between March 22 and April 25. For example, in 2024 Easter will be on March 31, and in 2086 it will be on March 31 again. So that's the reason for the changing date.

But whether it's called Resurection Sunday, or Easter, it means the same to us who believe.
A rose, by any other name, would still smell just as sweet. (to paraphrase Shakespeare) The important part never changes: He ain't there no mo. Anen.

"A requirement for a wedding ceremony to be married." (Grailhunter)

John 2:1-3 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.
And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.

So Jesus clearly was not opposed to weddings.



The Lord’s Day worship on Sunday. (Grailhunter)

Acts 20:5-7 These going before tarried for us at Troas.
And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

Sunday gathering to worship as a body became a tradition very early into Christandom.

Hebrews 10:23-25 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

So the admonishment of the writer of Hebrews is to not ignore the gathering of believers. Sunday is not required. A church I used to attend had a lot of young adults who worked weekends. They could not worship Sundays. That was just their economic reality. So we held Friday night services to accommodate them. When is not what is important. I can agree with you on that portion.

The requirement to stop polygamy and concubinage. (Grailhunter)

I am not aware of any Christian denomination that allows polygamy. Are you?
I am aware of the practice being allowed in Momonism. But they are a non-Christian cult.

The requirement to stop slavery. (Grailhunter)

I am not aware of any Christian denominations that endorse, or practice slavery. Are you?


The requirement to build Church buildings. (Grailhunter)

There was a requirement to build the temple in the Old Testament. The veil of which was torn when Jesus died. The disciples met in the upper room. So we can see a place for gathering is needed.

Strangely enough Christ never told the Apostles to write anything down. (Grailhunter)

If you saw what they saw, if you heard what they heard, could you keep it to yourself? The apostles could not be everywhere at once. It makes sense that they, or a scribe, would write their accounts with Jesus down as guidelines for the chuches they started.

Thump Thump.

I believe we did get it right.

Keep walking everybody.
May God bless,
Taz

You are targeting the wrong guy. I am on your side

 

[donadams]

lol Fat fingers B next to V


You are giving me all New Testament scriptures.

They were very aware of Satan in the New Testament.

And this war….when do you think it happened? Not that I do not believe there was war.

I believe the great rebellion of satan started at his fall with the disobedient angels and has continued ever since inducing mankind in its hatred for God, Christ his church and his revealed truth!

Thks

 

[Free]

The word Lucifer is not in the actual scriptures…..
Why not? Lucifer is a Latin word! Guess what? Some one put a Latin word in a Hebrew scripture. The scripture is referencing the morning star which is the Planet Venus and also the name of a goddess. The scripture actually reads….

“How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations!
Isaiah 14:12

If you read the chapter you will see it is about a Pagan king.
One of many errors in the KJB.

Exactly. This has been discussed many times here, going back quite a number of years:

https://christianforums.net/threads/what-is-wrong-with-the-niv-bible.26725/page-5#post-401576

https://christianforums.net/threads...of-the-bible-why-kjv-only.93904/#post-1719437

https://christianforums.net/threads/satan-you-mean-that-little-imp.17443/#post-257626

https://christianforums.net/threads/is-lucifer-satan-a-study-of-scripture.44457/#post-744862