Is Baptism necessary for Salvation?

[Hopeful 2]

Genesis 3:20-23 And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living. Also for Adam and his wife the Lord God made tunics of skin, and clothed them. Then the Lord God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"--therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken.

Dave

I guess it just depends on your definition of "God's presence".
As God was still talking with men when Cain and Abel did their sacrifices, I find it difficult to think He wasn't somehow present with Adam and Eve anymore.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

You're probably correct ... but it is still an assumption. The point was to show multiple potential meanings of the word "all".


Probably ... but the universalists use verses with ALL ..

• 2 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
• He, by the grace of God, might taste death for everyone.” (Heb. 2:9)
• we trust in the living God, Who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. These things command and teach.” (1 Tim. 4:9-11)
• etc

Other popular verses to distort that use ALL ...
1 Timothy 2:6
Hebrews 2:9
2 Corinthians 5:14-15
1 Corinthians 15:22
Romans 5:18

I grant that you are well versed and consider context, but I'd say a majority do not.

Universalists ignored about Jn. 3:17-18 - "he who does not believe is condemned already." Salvation is willed by God, but also must be accepted by men. That is the real distortion.