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Is man not really capable of seeking God?

@Fastfredy
Monergistic, parlance, synergistic.

Do you know why we're here brother?
We're here to encourage one another, help each other grow in the truth, to build up one another in love and kindness, not use words that make us seem smarter and above others as we show our dominance in wisdom and the English language by the way we post our thoughts.

So many come here because they have no life, and nobody in their lives that care about them, so they find a way to stand out and matter, maybe in accomplishments, and be looked up to so they achieve some sense of noteriety.

If you are without any sense of friendship and others caring, your approach here naturally shows you have something to prove. You're not the first one and it's pretty easy to see, when one has seen thousands of others like yourself.

It's no crime, but rather an empty attempt to prove your something your not so you have a better sense of self-worth, and maybe a place to fit in.
I think you'd fit in better if you just be who you are and let us enjoy the person you really are.
 
Excuse me, nothing is out of context, in fact its in context, man under sin doesnt seek after God, its as plain as the noon day sun Rom 3:9-12

9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 10 as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 there is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
We're we not all under sin before we sought God after hearing Him calling us. It's only those who have hardened their hearts that have turned away from God and refuse to hear Him calling them to repentance
 
Are you coming out of the "LONELY CLOSET."?
I make no secret of that. Think you would find most of us are lonely and seek companionship. Christianity is the connect for us here. We all believe in something we cannot see. There is something greater than ourselves.
 
ABSOLUTELY NOT
ALL OF YOU who "LIKED" this statement, Fastfredy0 , and Christ_empowered - LISTEN !

for_his_glory is a "seasoned believer" and didn't become here as an ADMINISTRATOR because she is ignorant of Gods word, and SHE is dead-on correct and you brightfame52 needs to stop spreading these kind of idea's that lead people astray in their faith.
More of you need to start listening to these people who run this forum, and try to learn something and start listening, instead of thinking you can come here and act like you know more than these people who started all this.

I'm sure you mean well, but you are so off base, you'll never find "home plate."

In God's love and mercy
I'm Seasoned by Grace
What people need to do is listen to the Holy Spirit teaching us all things. Apart from the Holy Spirit man and his traditional doctrines can teach us nothing. I found that out the hard way and it was a bitter pill to swallow.
 
Is that Catholicism you are referring to?
No offence taken. Just wanting to clarify.
No. I'm talking about anyone who tries to teach apart from the Holy Spirit teaching and equipping them first. Many teach from the carnal mind as they only teach what makes logical sense to them.
 
A dead man repenting ? Please give me a break !
We, including you, were all dead in our sins before we heard and answered the call of God to come unto Christ. Not everyone will heed to His call. Many are called, but few are chosen.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Acts 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Acts 19:7 And all the men were about twelve.
 
Excuse me, nothing is out of context, in fact its in context, man under sin doesnt seek after God, its as plain as the noon day sun Rom 3:9-12

9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 10 as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 there is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
So many want to clean the fish before they catch them. Or in other words you need to make yourself perfect before you come to Christ and accept Him as lord and Savior.

Luke 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Rom 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
 
Many teach from the carnal mind as they only teach what makes logical sense to them.
"Carnal" needs clarifying for me. It seems to suggest independent thinking is not what God wants us to do.
Faith and reason is what I try to use. It's not steeped in scripture you might say. But I think I get the main gospel message. Maybe that's not enough.
 
"Carnal" needs clarifying for me. It seems to suggest independent thinking is not what God wants us to do.
Faith and reason is what I try to use. It's not steeped in scripture you might say. But I think I get the main gospel message. Maybe that's not enough.
Carnal means the natural mind apart from the Spiritual mind of Christ.

John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
 
"Carnal" needs clarifying for me. It seems to suggest independent thinking is not what God wants us to do.
Faith and reason is what I try to use. It's not steeped in scripture you might say. But I think I get the main gospel message. Maybe that's not enough.
I use to read a chapter at a time in the Bible getting a jest of what was written, but when the Holy Spirit started telling me to read a verse at a time and not to move on until I understood that verse I was shocked at how much I was missing.
 
We need commentaries too
humble soul my brother
We do get a lot of commentaries here and that's part of the problem we are talking about here, that many come here with a carnal mind and almost no true learning or understanding, totally "bankrupt in the word, dangerous with just enough knowledge to make them a threat in the hugely long posts that bear no resemblance to the truth, along with their arrogance, ego, and sarcasm and disrespect.

That's why we have ADMINISTRATORS especially, and also have so many MODERATORS.

It makes all the difference when the ADMINISTRATORS especially, are paying attention as they do, and step in and set things straight quickly.
 
that many come here with a carnal mind and almost no true learning or understanding, totally "bankrupt in the word, dangerous with just enough knowledge to make them a threat in the hugely long posts that bear no resemblance to the truth, along with their arrogance, ego, and sarcasm and disrespect.
I think the way we communicate is indicative of whether we have a carnal mind or not. I do have one admittedly sometimes. Yet I don't think God expects us all to communicate the same way.
But when we judge another to be on the wrong track , we must be totally transparent about our own view of the truth.
No one on this forum owns the truth. Some might be closer than others. But who is to judge that?
So I think your main point is valid. That rudeness is not acceptable. And dismissive arrogance. Because when we communicate like that , we betray weakness instead of strength.
 
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