Bible Study Jerry Falwell on the Crucifixion

[liafailrock]

Bob:

You (and some others) believe the Lord rose on Sabbath. What about the feast of Firstfruits which occurred on a Sunday after the weekly sabbath? What then does it depict? Seemingly, you believe in feast days, and yet circumvent this one. This is one of the most important ones since it pointed to the resurrection. Again--- death late on 14th (when Passover slaughter took place). Buried start of 15th at sundown (start of Unleavened Bread)--- In tomb 3 days and 3 nights. As the sabbath closed and Firstfruits dawned (Sunday) was the resurrection, the same time the priest waved the sheath of firstfruits. It fits both mathematically and by the prophetic feast days down to the minute.

 

[Adams son]

Bob:

You (and some others) believe the Lord rose on Sabbath. What about the feast of Firstfruits which occurred on a Sunday after the weekly sabbath? What then does it depict? Seemingly, you believe in feast days, and yet circumvent this one. This is one of the most important ones since it pointed to the resurrection. Again--- death late on 14th (when Passover slaughter took place). Buried start of 15th at sundown (start of Unleavened Bread)--- In tomb 3 days and 3 nights. As the sabbath closed and Firstfruits dawned (Sunday) was the resurrection, the same time the priest waved the sheath of firstfruits. It fits both mathematically and by the prophetic feast days down to the minute.

Please explain further.

What day do you say Jesus died?

 

[Bob10]

liafailrock

This is the calendar I am familiar with --

http://www.garnertedarmstrong.ws/holyday.htm

http://www.cemnetwork.com/events/index.php

 

[liafailrock]

Please explain further.

What day do you say Jesus died?

Wednesday, late 14th of Nissan.
Buried sundown starting 15th Nissan Thursday, then 1,2,3.....
brings us to the start of the 18th, Sunday.

I already stated this at the start of the thread and even supplied a link that showed a table. The question now is not so much the day of the week he died or the time in the grave, I was asking about the Firstfruits. It has to signify something.

Understand that (as Vic said), we are just mincing hours here--- those who believe he raised Saturday did so in the late afternoon. Sundown is perhaps 3 hours later. It would not really bother me either way. However, I do believe that God wanted the resurrection day reckoned as Sunday, otherwise a feast would not fall on that day. Otherwise, He would have designated the sabbath instead, and the firstfruits would have occurred on a sabbath instead. Likewise, the fiftieth day, counting the first day of Firstfruits, is exactly 7 weeks later for Pentecost--- also Sunday

And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. (Lev. 23:15-16)

However, given that God has a thing for His "set times", I'll wager that the resurrection occurred at or closer to sundown to fulfill this passage, not in the middle of the afternoon when nothing was going on.

 

[Bob10]

wasn't Pentecost called the feast of weeks and the feast of firstfruits ? ------- Lev. 23: 16-17

Christians are the firstfruits, gathered before Jesus comes again.

Jesus is the first of the firstfruits - 1Cor 15:23.

 

[liafailrock]

wasn't Pentecost called the feast of weeks and the feast of firstfruits ? ------- Lev. 23: 16-17

Christians are the firstfruits, gathered before Jesus comes again.

Jesus is the first of the firstfruits - 1Cor 15:23.

Yes and no. Pentecost is the "feast of weeks" and also sometimes called firstfruits, but it comes from the same harvested crop of the first wave sheaf offered on the morrow after the sabbath (during Passover week).
The first sheaf, of course, was singular, Christ raising from the dead and firstborn of many brethren. The Pentecost harvest of firstfruits were the brethren following after Christ when the Spirit was given producing offspring in Christ.

In other words, we have Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits (these 3 during Passover week), Pentecost (7 weeks later), then the autumn festivals of Trumpets, Atonement and Tabernacles (incl the the Last Great Day of Tabernacles)

 

[Bob10]

In other words, we have Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits (these 3 during Passover week),

liafailrock,

I just follow the holidays in Lev. 23.

I don't see that Firstfruits one in there.

 

[liafailrock]

liafailrock,

I just follow the holidays in Lev. 23.

I don't see that Firstfruits one in there.

It is--- verses 10-11 when they got into the land, the priest waved the firstfruit sheaf on the morrow after the sabbath (this was during Passover week). This was an important and notable ceremony. Then in verses 15-17 came Pentecost seven weeks later based from the time of the wave sheaf:


And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days

These are two events--- one is a single sheaf and the one 7 weeks later is the harvest from that same crop. The two were intimately connected--- clearly, the first time signified Christ's resurrection, and the 7 weeks later was a harvest signifying the day the Spirit came resulting in many more (the church).

 

[Bob10]

yes, I believe I remember reading about that in a book called The Temple, by Alfred Edersheim.