Jesus is not YHVH

[jocor]

Please consider these verse's, even if you don't post an answer.


Thus the Lord my God will come, and all the saints with You. Zechariah 14:5

The Lord Jesus will come with all His saints, with a name written on His thigh that says: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:16


He is the Alpha and Omega, the first and last.

12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” Revelation 22:12

JLB

You were not asked, "Who is YHWH"? You were asked how to pronounce "YHWH" in English. "Jesus" is NOT the pronunciation of YHWH. To say such is absolutely ludicrous. Perhaps you misread Jim Parker's request. If so, please try again.

 

[JLB]

You were not asked, "Who is YHWH"? You were asked how to pronounce "YHWH" in English. "Jesus" is NOT the pronunciation of YHWH. To say such is absolutely ludicrous. Perhaps you misread Jim Parker's request. If so, please try again.

If you need to add some letters to YHWH add these-


Joshua = YĕHoWsHuwa`- Strong’s Number: 3091 - “YHWH is salvation” = the Lord is salvation

YHWH = YeHoWsHuwa = Joshua - Jesus

Jesus also means the Lord is Salvation. Strong's # 2424


8] For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.Hebrews 4:8 – KJV

8] For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. Hebrews 4:8 NKJV



JLB

 

[Jim Parker]

If you need to add some letters to YHWH add these-


Joshua = YĕHoWsHuwa`- Strong’s Number: 3091 - “YHWH is salvation” = the Lord is salvation

YHWH = YeHoWsHuwa = Joshua - Jesus

Jesus also means the Lord is Salvation. Strong's # 2424


8] For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.Hebrews 4:8 – KJV

8] For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. Hebrews 4:8 NKJV



JLB

There you go adding letters to YHWH's name! I thought you said that was a big 'No-no."

 

[JLB]

There you go adding letters to YHWH's name! I thought you said that was a big 'No-no."

Try reading slowly: If you need to add some letters to YHWH add these - YĕHoWsHuwa`

The transliteration of Joshua, which means the Lord is Salvation.


Me personally, I just say Jesus, the name above every name.

Jesus is YHWH, the Lord our Salvation.


JLB

 

[Jim Parker]

Try reading slowly: If you need to add some letters to YHWH add these - YĕHoWsHuwa`

And how do YOU read it without adding letters?

And if you are telling someone to add letters, aren't you telling him to sin?

After all, it was you who said "Adding to the scriptures especially the Lords Name is sin."

So,.... aw forget it.

iakov the fool

 

[Sinthesis]

If Jesus is YHVH, then how many comings have there been?

 

[jocor]

If you need to add some letters to YHWH add these-


Joshua = YĕHoWsHuwa`- Strong’s Number: 3091 - “YHWH is salvation” = the Lord is salvation

YHWH = YeHoWsHuwa = Joshua - Jesus

JLB

Interesting rendering, but totally false. Joshua's name does not contain the letters YHWH. It only contains YHW.

Yod-Heh-Waw-Shin-Ayin = YHWSHA

Also, the Savior's name does not mean "the Lord is salvation". It means "he shall save" (Mt 1:21). The Hebrew name "Yeshua" means "he will save". The name Yeshua does not contain a heh in Hebrew.

 

[JLB]

And how do YOU read it without adding letters?

And if you are telling someone to add letters, aren't you telling him to sin?

After all, it was you who said "Adding to the scriptures especially the Lords Name is sin."

So,.... aw forget it.

iakov the fool

If you want to add some letters to YHWH then add these: YĕHoWsHuwa` -

That way you will be adding the correct letters.


Jesus is YHWH.

10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.
Zechariah 12:10


Oh, that's right, your theology believes Zechariah is YHWH.



JLB

 

[JLB]

Interesting rendering, but totally false. Joshua's name does not contain the letters YHWH. It only contains YHW.

Yod-Heh-Waw-Shin-Ayin = YHWSHA

Also, the Savior's name does not mean "the Lord is salvation". It means "he shall save" (Mt 1:21). The Hebrew name "Yeshua" means "he will save". The name Yeshua does not contain a heh in Hebrew.

This is what the Strongs has for Joshua. Reference Blue Letter Bible.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H3091&t=KJV

Strongs # 3091 - YĕHoWsHuwa` - Joshua

Of course, we are to rely on scripture, and not what the Strongs says.

Jesus is the Lord of lords. The Lord God.

Therefore circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and be stiff-necked no longer. For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality nor takes a bribe. Deuteronomy 10:16-17

again

Thus the Lord my God will come, and all the saints with You. Zechariah 14:5 NKJV

and again -

looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, Titus 2:13

and again

12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” Revelation 22:12-13

The First and Last is the Title of Israel's Redeemer, the Lord God.

“Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, My called, I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last.
Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth,
And My right hand has stretched out the heavens;When I call to them,They stand up together.
Isaiah 48:12-13


This is what the Book of Revelation is about. The Revelation of Jesus Christ: Who He is.

He is our Redeemer, our Savior, our Lord, our God: The King of kings and Lord of lords.

The Alpha and Omega. The Lord God of Israel who will come at the end of the age with His saints.

10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, 11 saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,” and, “What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.” 12 Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. 14 His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire; 15 His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters; 16 He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength. 17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Revelation 1:10-18


Please consider these verse's of scripture.

May the Lord God Bless you and keep you, and make His face shine upon you, and be gracious to you.
May the Lord lift up His countenance upon you and give you peace.

Blessings to you from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.


JLB

 

[JLB]

If Jesus is YHVH, then how many comings have there been?

One.

He will come and appear again bodily for all to see Him, a Second time.

so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. Hebrews 9:28


JLB

 

[jocor]

This is what the Strongs has for Joshua. Reference Blue Letter Bible.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H3091&t=KJV

Strongs # 3091 - YĕHoWsHuwa` - Joshua

JLB

Look at the Hebrew spelling of Joshua's name at the top of the link you posted. The second letter reading from right to left is a heh (H). How many of those do you see in the Hebrew spelling? Only one. There is NO second "heh". You are turning the fourth letter (shin) into a heh (H) in your rendering "YeHoWsHua". The "sh" in Yehoshua is a Hebrew "shin", not a "heh". [Be respectful of others. ToS 2.4. WIP]

 

[Jim Parker]

If Jesus is YHVH, then how many comings have there been?

No matter how one understands the relationship between the Names of God, Jesus has come once, in the flesh, and He will come once more to judge the living and the dead and His kingdom will have no end.

iakov the fool

 

[JLB]

Look at the Hebrew spelling of Joshua's name at the top of the link you posted. The second letter reading from right to left is a heh (H). How many of those do you see in the Hebrew spelling? Only one. There is NO second "heh". You are turning the fourth letter (shin) into a heh (H) in your rendering "YeHoWsHua". The "sh" in Yehoshua is a Hebrew "shin", not a "heh". [Be respectful of others. ToS 2.4. WIP]

I posted what came from the Strongs.

Strongs # 3091 - YĕHoWsHuwa` - Joshua


The truth is in the Scriptures.

Jesus is the Lord of lords. The Lord God.

Therefore circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and be stiff-necked no longer. For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality nor takes a bribe. Deuteronomy 10:16-17

again

Thus the Lord my God will come, and all the saints with You. Zechariah 14:5 NKJV

and again -

looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,Titus 2:13

and again

12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” Revelation 22:12-13

The First and Last is the Title of Israel's Redeemer, the Lord God.

“Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, My called, I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last.
Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth,
And My right hand has stretched out the heavens;When I call to them,They stand up together.
Isaiah 48:12-13


This is what the Book of Revelation is about. The Revelation of Jesus Christ: Who He is.

He is our Redeemer, our Savior, our Lord, our God: The King of kings and Lord of lords.

The Alpha and Omega. The Lord God of Israel who will come at the end of the age with His saints.

10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, 11 saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,” and, “What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.” 12 Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. 14 His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire; 15 His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters; 16 He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength. 17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Revelation 1:10-18


Please consider these verse's of scripture.

May the Lord God Bless you and keep you, and make His face shine upon you, and be gracious to you.
May the Lord lift up His countenance upon you and give you peace.

Blessings to you from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.



JLB

 

[JLB]

No matter how one understands the relationship between the Names of God, Jesus has come once, in the flesh, and He will come once more to judge the living and the dead and His kingdom will have no end.

iakov the fool

 

[jocor]

I posted what came from the Strongs.

Strongs # 3091 - YĕHoWsHuwa` - Joshua

That is NOT what Strong's says. It says:

Yĕhowshuwa`

You highlighted four of those letters yourself and then capitalized them. The point is, you highlighted two letter H when, in reality, there is only one "h" in the Hebrew, the first one. Strong transliterated the Hebrew "shin" as "sh", NOT as "H". In other words, your representation of Strong's is deceiving and false.

 

[JLB]

That is NOT what Strong's says. It says:

Yĕhowshuwa`

You highlighted four of those letters yourself and then capitalized them. The point is, you highlighted two letter H when, in reality, there is only one "h" in the Hebrew, the first one. Strong transliterated the Hebrew "shin" as "sh", NOT as "H". In other words, your representation of Strong's is deceiving and false.

Yes I highlighted them so they could be seen.

Strongs # 3091 - YĕHoWsHuwa` - Joshua

I you need to Add letters to YHWH, add these.


Now back to the scriptures:

Jesus is the Lord of lords. The Lord God.

Therefore circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and be stiff-necked no longer. For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality nor takes a bribe. Deuteronomy 10:16-17

again

Thus the Lord my God will come, and all the saints with You. Zechariah 14:5 NKJV

and again -

looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,Titus 2:13

and again

12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” Revelation 22:12-13

The First and Last is the Title of Israel's Redeemer, the Lord God.

“Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, My called, I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last.
Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth,
And My right hand has stretched out the heavens;When I call to them,They stand up together.
Isaiah 48:12-13


This is what the Book of Revelation is about. The Revelation of Jesus Christ: Who He is.

He is our Redeemer, our Savior, our Lord, our God: The King of kings and Lord of lords.

The Alpha and Omega. The Lord God of Israel who will come at the end of the age with His saints.

10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, 11 saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,” and, “What you see, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia: to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamos, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.” 12 Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. 14 His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire; 15 His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters; 16 He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength. 17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Revelation 1:10-18



JLB

 

[jocor]

Yes I highlighted them so they could be seen.

Strongs # 3091 - YĕHoWsHuwa` - Joshua

I you need to Add letters to YHWH, add these.

I'll leave you with this link to the Hebrew aleph bet: http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/aleph-bet.html

Let it never be said that I didn't do all I could do to help you.

 

[JLB]

I'll leave you with this link to the Hebrew aleph bet: http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/aleph-bet.html

Let it never be said that I didn't do all I could do to help you.

You just ignored the countless scriptures that prove Jesus is the Lord God of Israel.

Paul said plainly.., those who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved. Romans 10:13

This is a direct quote from Joel 2 and references YHWH as Jesus our Savior.


JLB

 

[jocor]

You just ignored the countless scriptures that prove Jesus is the Lord God of Israel.

Paul said plainly.., those who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved. Romans 10:13

This is a direct quote from Joel 2 and references YHWH as Jesus our Savior.

JLB

I ignored nothing. As much as I would like to reply to them the forum rules will not allow it. It would be considered a "hostile act" (Tos 2.1).

 

[JLB]

I ignored nothing. As much as I would like to reply to them the forum rules will not allow it. It would be considered a "hostile act" (Tos 2.1).

No it's called Heresy.