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    There is salvation in no other, for there is not another name under heaven having been given among men, by which it behooves us to be saved."

John MacArthur: Distinguished Calvinist Preacher.

No. I accept the supernatural birth.
From above not below.

Ephesians 4:8–10 (KJV 1900): 8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
The Christ embryo was put into mary by the Holy Ghost, it wasnt of her biological egg. Matt 1:18,20

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Jesus testified He was from above not from mary Jn 8:23


And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

Now if you deny this, you deny His distinction
 
The Christ embryo was put into mary by the Holy Ghost, it wasnt of her biological egg. Matt 1:18,20

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Jesus testified He was from above not from mary Jn 8:23


And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

Now if you deny this, you deny His distinction
You’ve unmoored Jesus from His humanity.
He can no longer be Savior of His people.
 
You’ve unmoored Jesus from His humanity.
He can no longer be Savior of His people.
He has a humanity, its just not from the egg and blood of mary, she was used to shape and form His Heavenly Humanity in the likeness of sinful flesh Rom 8:3. Your concept is making Christ a sinner like all of marys biological physical children she had with joseph. That destroys His being the Savior of His People. Your Christ is sinner man, Not the Saviour from Heaven Jn 8:23

23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

Jn 6:51

I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
 
He has a humanity, its just not from the egg and blood of mary, she was used to shape and form His Heavenly Humanity in the likeness of sinful flesh Rom 8:3. Your concept is making Christ a sinner like all of marys biological physical children she had with joseph. That destroys His being the Savior of His People. Your Christ is sinner man, Not the Saviour from Heaven Jn 8:23

23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

Jn 6:51

I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
If God did not use her egg then Jesus is not human. This destroys the INCARNation.

“Carne” means flesh.
 
All true born of God are priests including Jewish believers.

1 Peter 2:5 (KJV 1900): 5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
Give that man a Cupie doll!
That’s one care to go for the other two?
 
If God did not use her egg then Jesus is not human. This destroys the INCARNation.

“Carne” means flesh.
In fact I would argue that if Jesus came from marys egg, He is a sinner. You deny the source of His Heavenly origin, which denies the incarnation, He is the Man from heaven, not from mary 1 Cor 15:47


The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
 
In fact I would argue that if Jesus came from marys egg, He is a sinner. You deny the source of His Heavenly origin, which denies the incarnation, He is the Man from heaven, not from mary 1 Cor 15:47


The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
The sin nature comes from Adam not the woman. Adam is federal head of the human race and God curse the ground instead of Adam for his sake.
Had God cursed Adam Christ could not be Savior.
This does not mean Mary was sinless only that Adam was addressed for her sin. Thus, remove the man from the equation and using the egg Christ is born without a sin nature but human nevertheless.
 
The sin nature comes from Adam not the woman. Adam is federal head of the human race and God curse the ground instead of Adam for his sake.
Had God cursed Adam Christ could not be Savior.
This does not mean Mary was sinless only that Adam was addressed for her sin. Thus, remove the man from the equation and using the egg Christ is born without a sin nature but human nevertheless.
Ive said enough with scripture, Jesus was put into mary by the Holy Ghost, He wasnt out of her egg Matt 1:18

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
That prep of ek :

  1. out of, from, by, away from

This denotes origin
ek; a primary preposition denoting origin (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out

He was from the Holy Ghost, transported into marys body in order to be shaped and formed into the likeness of sinful flesh,

Now if you contend that He was out of marys egg, that contradicts the verse Im sharing, He was out of her physical body, she being a physical descendant of David of the physical tribe of Judah, to fulfill the promise made to David.

Now if you say I destroy the incarnation by this, thats fine, God is My Judge, but I say the same about you, and you trust in the flesh !
 
The Holy Spirit asked in the negative: “Hath God cast away His people (Israel)?
The Holy Spirit answered:
GOD FORBID.

To oppose God’s Word is to oppose God.
They are welcome and free to repent (renounce the old covenant) and become members of Christ in the new, eternal and only valid covenant
 
And each other in the body of Christ.

1 Corinthians 12:14–31 (KJV 1900): 14 For the body is not one member, but many. 15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? 18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 19 And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20 But now are they many members, yet but one body. 21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. 22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: 23 And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. 24 For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: 25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. 26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. 27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? 31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
You right on that part
But there are those in authority to teach govern and sanctify m

But that’s a typo I meant “the apostolic church is not dependent on scripture! Sorry
 
They are welcome and free to repent (renounce the old covenant) and become members of Christ in the new, eternal and only valid covenant
Repentance must be given by God 2 Tim 2:25-26

25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
 
Repentance must be given by God 2 Tim 2:25-26

25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
Everything true good and beautiful comes from God
 
No
Just Christ.
And I am a priest in Christ.
On earth there are two: me and Christ.
In heaven there is one: Christ.
And I am hidden in Him.
Do I win another kewpie-doll?
no

The three fold new covenant priesthood: and priesthood in scripture is plural.

High priesthood: “Jesus Christ”
acts 10:14
heb 5:1
heb 8:1
heb 8:3


Ministerial priesthood: “apostles & their successors, and those they ordain” (low priests)
With priestly ministry:

Mk 3:14 “ordained”
Jn 15:16 “chosen” “ordained”
Jn 20:21 “sent by Christ with His authority”
Jn 20:23 “power to forgive sins”
Acts 1:8 “anointing with power”
acts 1:15-26 “ministry / bishop”
Acts 2:38-39 “administered sacraments”
acts 14:23 “ordained”
Acts 16:4 “ordained “
Rom 15:16 “minister / sanctify”
1 cor 9:14 “ordained”
1 Tim 2:7 “ordained”
1 Tim 3:1-2 “bishop”
1 Tim 4:14 “priest” “priestly ministry”
Phil 1:1 “bishops deacons”
James 5:14 “anointing with oil”

The ministerial priesthood acts in “the person of Christ” so it is Christ who acts thru them vicariously.
2 cor 2:10 Jn 15:5 eph 5:24


Royal priesthood: “baptized members of Jesus Christ”
1 pet 2:5-9


Christ reformed the mosaic covenant into the new and eternal covenant!

The new covenant was a reformation of the mosaic covenant so it has many similarities. Heb 9:10
Heb 10:9

Old Israel:

Ex 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

New Israel:

1 pet 2:5-9
5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

Gal 6:16
And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Apostles / bishops were ordained priests by Jesus Christ at the last supper: 1 cor 11:24-26
do this in memory of me. offer this in memory of me, the Passover was a sacrifice. Ex 12:27 1 cor 5:6-8

Worship:

Adoration: rev 7-12
Propitiatory reparation: Jn 1:29
rom 3:25 1 Jn 2:2 1 Jn 4:10
1 Jn 2:2 1 Jn 4:10
Thanksgiving: Phil 4:6
Petition: Phil 4:6

Spirit and truth:

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Offering the eternal sacrifice of Christ for the salvation of all men!


There are three parts of the priesthood in the new covenant church:

In the order of Melchisedec,
Christ high priest:

His apostles low priests: or
Ministerial priesthood:

and the royal priesthood of Christians.

Christ is Eternal priest:

Heb 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Christ is High priest:

Heb 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

Low priests / priesthood:

There must be low priests in the same order for a high priest to be over them. And the word in scripture “priesthood” is plural.

Jn 20:21-23 apostles have authority to forgive sins.

Christians Required to Confess you’re sins.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


Lamb of God:

John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

1 cor 5:7 …For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Christ is Eternal priest:

Heb 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Christ is High priest:

Heb 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

Low priests / priesthood:

There must be low priests in the same order for a high priest to be over them. And the word in scripture “priesthood” is plural.

The holy sacrifice of Christ:

Holy sacrifice of Christ is offered eternally, the office of a priest is to offer sacrifice, Christ is eternal priest so He offers an eternal sacrifice! Both by the high priest and the low priesthood.

once for all:

once bloody on the cross and for all time unbloody sacrifice, pure offering or clean oblation.

Jesus Christ at the last supper ordained the apostles as priests in the order of melchisedec, to offer His eternal sacrifice as he commanded them; do this in memory of me.

Do this in remembrance of me!

Luke 22:19
And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

1 Corinthians 11:24
And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

1 Corinthians 11:25
After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

Malachi 1:11

For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the Lord of hosts.

A pure offering:
A Clean oblation:
An Unbloody sacrifice:

No possibility for Protestants to offer worship to God in spirit and truth!

Both mosaic and the new Christian covenants have a:

Temple
Ark of the new covenant
Altar
Propitiatory sacrifice
Triple priesthood
With true worship, adoration, reparation, thanksgiving, and petition in the correct and true faith revealed from Christ, and inspired by His spirit and proposed by His holy divine new covenant church!

New covenant Temple: (the body of Christ) Jn 2:19
Ark of the new covenant: (Mary) Lk 1:35
Altar: (the cross) heb 13:10
New covenant Sacrifice: (the eternal propitiatory sacrifice of Christ)
Acts 20:28 Eph 2:13 heb 9
heb 10:19
Priesthood: (the new covenant priesthood of Christ) heb 7:17
High priest: (Christ is high priest) heb 8:1
Low priests (the order of melchisedec) heb 7:17
Golden censor with incense: rev 8:3


Verses about an altar before God in heaven!
Rev 6:9 8:3 9:13 11:1 14:18 16:7
 
Just Christ.
And I am a priest in Christ.
On earth there are two: me and Christ.
In heaven there is one: Christ.
And I am hidden in Him.
Do I win another kewpie-doll?
So you here to boast about yourself ? All believers have been made priests unto God, in and by the Lord Jesus Christ 1 Pet 2:9

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

Rev 1:5-6

5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
 
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