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[Hitch]

But I just answered and you continue to run. Why? In you mind - "who is the destroyer? Who sets them up to fall?"

Please expand/expound your 'thinking process' on what you thought you might be thinking and where you are struggling to go with this passage. Defend your thread my friend.

When one understands how we are to love our family members, yet hate them, as God commands, they can then see how God does indeed love the sinner yet hates the sin.

It's amazing how Theologians can confuse such simple spiritual truths. To suggest that justice is equivalent to hatred, as we understand hatred, is really a very spiritually short sided conclusion to come to. The scriptures themselves help us understand that to judge sin is not to hate the sinner (as we understand hate).

Your response is as replete with truth as it is scripture .

 

[stovebolts]

Does God ever change his mind.?:eeeekkk

Ya know that thing about 'no such thing as a stupid question ' well here is proof of the contrary.

Interesting Stove that you follow your smear wrt cultism with this nod toward Open Theism.

This is not the Open Theism thread.

Hitch,
I didn't say anything about open theism... and I wish you wouldn't try playing victim by some imaginative smear campaign you think I'm trying to promote.

As far as God changing his mind, your really not that familiar with scriptures are you?

KJV: Exodus 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

While were at it...
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

 

[stovebolts]

LOL Exactly which sins or mistakes do you think God should repent of Stove?

Please see above post.

 

[Hitch]

Hitch,
I didn't say anything about open theism... and I wish you wouldn't try playing victim by some imaginative smear campaign you think I'm trying to promote.

I didnt think you were man enough to apologise

As far as God changing his mind, your really not that familiar with scriptures are you?

KJV: Exodus 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

I had a similiar view when I was in the teen class at Sunday School.




' How does the idiom concerning God repenting (cf. Exodus 32:9,10; 1 Samuel 15:11) square with the unalterable fixity of his eternal decree?
When the Bible seems to suggest that God did in fact alter his course of action away from a previously declared course of action, one should understand that his "new course" is only his settled, immutably certain response in keeping with the principles of conduct respecting himself which He himself declared (Jeremiah 18:7-10). In other words, God always acts the same way toward moral evil and the same way toward moral good. In his every reaction to men's responses to him, the immutable moral fixity of his character is evident. If people alter their relations to him, He will always respond in a manner consistent with his immutably holy character (see Jonah 3:3-10; also read Psalms 18:25-27).
The Bible takes seriously the character of God who as holy can never approve of evil and who must always recoil (repent) against it even though he decreed its existence; who as just must always approve of obedience, pronounce it good, and rejoice over it even though, where it actually exists in the creature, he is the ultimate author of it; and who, simply because he is good, must always respond to the sinner's evil with grief and to the sinner's repentance with delight.'

While were at it...
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

God changes his mind the same way he cracks his knuckles.

Get a grip stove, learn something useful.

 

[stovebolts]

So, what is this so called "good news" Christ wants us to preach? God's Love? NO!!!

(Luke 24:46-47) Then He said to them, "Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Not satisfied?

(Rev 14:6-7) Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people saying with a loud voice, "Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water."

The good news is all about God's Judgment and His Wrath and warning people to repent and get forgiveness from God - Not about preaching how loving God is.

EDIT: The reason why it is called "good" is because, we now can escape God's Judgment and His Wrath through Christ, His Son.

Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

2 Corinthians 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

The Gospel is all about the love of God. Without that great love, we would both deserve eternal hell. BTW:
1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

And what is love?

1 Corinthians 13:1-13 If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal. And if I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. And if I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and if I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profiteth me nothing. Love suffereth long, and is kind; love envieth not; love vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not provoked, taketh not account of evil; rejoiceth not in unrighteousness, but rejoiceth with the truth; beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall be done away; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall be done away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part; but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things. For now we see in a mirror, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know fully even as also I was fully known. But now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; and the greatest of these is love.

 

[stovebolts]

I didnt think you were man enough to apologise I had a similiar view when I was in the teen class at Sunday School.

Get a grip stove, learn something useful.

Honestly Hitch, if you said that to my face I'd have to just walk away.. and if you pushed me or followed me you'd be laying there with a fat lip. Just being honest..

I see no need in continuing our conversation. I've never used it, but I think I'll find the ignore button from you. I don't want to be drug down to your petty level.

It's people like you that give this forum a bad reputation. Good day.

 

[zeke]

Your response is as replete with truth as it is scripture .

What we have here folks is a struggling poster who started a thread that is way over his head and the only way he can ‘defend’ it is by juvenile antics that have marginalized him to the point that he has nothing left to present. Rather sad but, historically easily understood.

 

[Vic C.]

Yeah, that's it party's over. :bigfrown