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Johan

Johan

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God has prophesied many.

Isa 60:3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
Isa 60:4 Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.

Jesus brought it into reality.

Mat 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

Luk 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Luk 14:27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

So there are many children for us. We just need to become a mother.

http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/his-wife.68761/

And then if we have learned God's way of ruling them

http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/fear-and-love.70920/

God will give them.

https://web.facebook.com/photo.php?....247361635366343.36890.100002775263058&type=3
 
What is happening in this thread is about my Life in Nkqubela.

My first son made his appearance.

He was born from me

1Co 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

But there is a difference.

Paul saw himself as a "Father"

Because of the Revelation of the Marriage.

http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/his-wife.68761/

I rather saw myself as a "Mother"
 
The importance of being a "mother" rather than a "father" is that the family is complete.

Up to now the world has wittnessed only God the Father and His children. Now in the end times it will be the Family.

Exciting.

As so much was achieved by God and His children we can see that what still needs to be done one earth will be done by the Family.

Children will have now a complete family. A family where they can benefit from both parents. Up to now it was something else. A broken family.

There were no wives.

But they were prophesied about.

Son 6:8 There are threescore queens, and fourscore concubines, and virgins without number.
Son 6:9 My dove, my undefiled is but one; she is the only one of her mother, she is the choice one of her that bare her. The daughters saw her, and blessed her; yea, the queens and the concubines, and they praised her.

And to the children of God it is good news.

As can be seen in Nkqubela the society where I live there is only "thumbs up" from all. Not one dislike yet. There is just one that had some questions. But that was all. But it is still early in this witness. Although I am already living 7 years here in Nkqubela and they got used to me being a parent most call me Father because of me being a man.

But this son of mine grew faster than the others. He understands more and get more revelation from God. And he decided now to witness openly and to everybody.
 
This Life of being a Wife to God is not readily accepted by the Church community.

Although they accept the Teaching on it they do frown upon it being Lived.

http://johanabrahams.pnyhost.com/Authority reactions.htm

This is a link of a Christian forum

https://www.worthychristianforums.com

When you read it you will see that they did accept the teaching on the marriage. And then they removed it when I spoke on the implications.

Normally the line of thought that gets the Marriage blocked is that it is believed to be an impersonal event. They cut the personal God out on this one. God suddenly become impersonal and marry with an organisation. And the revelation of God on the Song of Songs are also rejected. Believed to have its reality in the human relationship between humans.

Obviously that is for everyone to decide for himself. Does God go this personal or does God reject the idea of having personal wives. Meaning He just get personal with His children. Having a personal relationship with each on this basis. But when it comes to the grown-up stage there is no "grown-up" relationship.

Well the problem they face is this. I have one. So having taught all these years that God marry the Church as a whole is now proven wrong. Because there is no such thing. And it can not be lived. But I am living as a wive. And it is manifesting in my society.

So I am a witness of the Truth of this.

Song of songs is for the wife of God and not for human relationships. But we need to grow up before we can be a companion to God. Only then these Words in Song of songs will be experienced as anointing in the Spirit.

Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

This having said it can be seen how important it is for us to grow in the Life of Jesus to reach maturity there. Because then there awaits a grown-up relationship with God.

God has already incorporated the whole truth in our earthly live. Every child knows he needs to grow up to become a parent. And the same with us having God as Father growing to one day have Him as Husband.

Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
 
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Being in this anointing as a wife of God take us into the ruling authority of Wisdom.
It has been prophesied from the beginning that the new reign of God will manifest on earth.

http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/his-kingdom.68782/
It has been given to His wife to manifest that.
It has been prophesied from the beginning that the judgement has to be postponed till the second coming of Jesus.


http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/the-judge-is-jesus.70133/
It has been given to His wife to do that.
It has been prophesied that Jesus will appear in the clouds.

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/in-the-clouds/
It has been given to His wife to do that.
So in the marriage the clothes of the wife are different than the clothes of the children.
Rev 19:8 AndG2532 to herG846 was grantedG1325 thatG2443 she should be arrayedG4016 in fine linen,G1039 cleanG2513 andG2532 white:G2986 forG1063 theG3588 fine linenG1039 isG2076 theG3588 righteousnessG1345 of saints.G40

G2986
lampros
lam-pros'
From the same as G2985; radiant; by analogy limpid; figuratively magnificent or sumptuous (in appearance): - bright, clear, gay, goodly, gorgeous, white.
Where it is clear that the clothes have a "brightness" to it that is not present in the clothes of the children.

Rev 7:9 AfterG3326 thisG5023 I beheld,G1492 and,G2532 lo,G2400 a greatG4183 multitude,G3793 whichG3739 no manG3762 couldG1410 number,G705 (G846) ofG1537 allG3956 nations,G1484 andG2532 kindreds,G5443 andG2532 people,G2992 andG2532 tongues,G1100 stoodG2476 beforeG1799 theG3588 throne,G2362 andG2532 beforeG1799 theG3588 Lamb,G721 clothedG4016 with whiteG3022 robes,G4749 andG2532 palmsG5404 inG1722 theirG848 hands;G5495

G3022
λευκός
leukos
lyoo-kos'
From λύκη lukē (“light”); white: - white.
The clothes are revealed as the actions of the person.

Rev 19:8 She has been given the privilege of wearing fine linen, dazzling and pure." (The fine linen represents the righteous deeds of the saints.)" ISV translation.

This is therefor the more accurate translation bringing forth the "dazzling" quality of the clothes. This is also why the Bible has a huge emphasis on growing and calling us not to get sidetracked from the most important factor of childhood.
Which is growing.

Luk 8:5 "A farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was sowing, some seeds fell along the path, were trampled on, and birds from the sky ate them up.
Luk 8:6 Others fell on stony ground, and as soon as they came up, they dried up because they had no moisture.
Luk 8:7 Others fell among thorn bushes, and the thorn bushes grew with them and choked them.
Luk 8:8 But others fell on good soil, and when they came up, they produced a hundred times as much as was planted." As he said this, he called out, "Let the person who has ears to hear, listen!"

Luk 8:11 "Now this is what the parable means. The seed is God's word.
Luk 8:12 The ones on the path are the people who listen, but then the devil comes and takes the word away from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved.
Luk 8:13 The ones on the stony ground are the people who joyfully welcome the word when they hear it. But since they don't have any roots, they believe for a while, but in a time of testing they fall away.
Luk 8:14 The ones that fell among the thorn bushes are the people who listen, but as they go on their way they are choked by the worries, wealth, and pleasures of life, and their fruit doesn't mature.
Luk 8:15 But the ones on the good soil are the people who hear the word but also hold on to it with good and honest hearts, producing a crop through endurance."
Every child of every species knows that a better relationship awaits as a "grown-up". So do we as children of God need to know that.

1Pe 2:2 Like newborn babies, thirst for the pure milk of the word so that by it you may grow in your salvation.

Eph 4:13 until all of us are united in the faith and in the full knowledge of God's Son, and until we attain mature adulthood and the full standard of development in the Messiah.
Everything is waiting on that.

Rom 8:19 For the creation is eagerly awaiting the revelation of God's children,
Rom 8:20 because the creation has become subject to futility, though not by anything it did. The one who subjected it did so in the certainty
Rom 8:21 that the creation itself would also be set free from corrupting bondage in order to share the glorious freedom of God's children.
 
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Johan, this is just a suggestion as I think it would be better to shorten your post and get to the main topic as it becomes to tedious to read all that you post. I feel you would get a better response and also we would know what you are talking about. Thank you.
 
Mistakes are everywhere.

And I made one too.

As this link of mine "apparently" does not work.

https://web.facebook.com/photo.php?....247361635366343.36890.100002775263058&type=3

But now it does. And if you click on it all the comments are there too.

It was a setting in Facebook of my son that was wrong.

This is to me a very important photo as this son of mine is standing up in his community against his tradition.

As according to their tradition he has to call me Father. But he is calling me Mother according to the Truth.

And something strange is happening. Everybody is accepting it.

There are about 4000 Xhosa people there in Nkqubela. They are the original occupants of South Africa and therefor in Nkqubela as well. Then there are approximately 4000 more black Africans from other nations in Africa that is staying there because of the better circumstances in South Africa than their own countries of birth.

As I am in a Sjebeen in Nkqubela which is the biggest and most modernized most are coming here to buy their liquor. And they all know about my witnessing of the Marriage of the Lamb. And the resulting consequences that I am the first Wife of God here and therefor their first Mother.

Because of previous happenings where I had to obey God blindly this is smoothly going through.

God asked me to kill myself as a human being right in front of their eyes.

Well He did it but I had to obey.

He took my wife, children, job, money and life.

I had to sacrifice everything for them.

And I because of my previous growing in the Spirit I could do it.

Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

And God took me out of my marriage out of my job and out of my nation and out of my church.

And He made me a servant of all these people.

Everyday I am working for them. But they are not my bosses. I work for free. Just helping them and serving them.

And according to their tradition they call me Father because I am helping everybody with the problems I can. Fixing all the electric stuff like kettles, stoves, micro ovens etc. And doing building, plumbing, tiling, plastering, roofing etc.

And having nothing, no wife, no children, no possessions etc. I need nothing. Only thing is food and clothes. And that does not cost much to stay alive. They provide my housing because my house I sold and gave the money to them according to scripture. And they are happily keeping me alive because I am helping them. And I am Father according to tradition. I am the Father because I am Father to everyone.

1Co 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

And everybody is happy with this.

Until God told me to change it.

4 Months ago I had to start teaching that I am actually Mother.

And they all accept me but not "Mother".

And now the first one appeared.

And nobody are really fighting it. Some voices and questions there on Facebook but that is all.

The same can not be said of The International Sceptics however. There on that Facebook page you will see their ideas. And of course in their forum their are many more.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12028881&postcount=2235
 
Romans 8:
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

There is no wife of God as God has no need of a wife for God is Spirit not of flesh and blood and there is no one equal to Him, but does need faithful servants. The word husband in Isaiah 54:5 is that of God to the widowed women that have no husband as God will be a husband type to them as He cares for them. Read the whole chapter for the understanding of the word husband. We are children of God through that of His grace that by faith, which is Jesus, we are saved, as this is a gift from God to all who will believe, Ephesians 2:8.

Upon the Spiritual rebirth Jesus was teaching to Nicodemus in John chapter 3 we become joint-heirs with Jesus as we also share in His sufferings for His sake that we present ourselves a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God that we will know His perfect will, Romans 12:1, 2. Scripture also calls us the Bride of Christ meaning the whole body/people of Gods true Church, James 1:27, that have made themselves ready and await the coming of the Lord, Rev 19:5-8.

We have no children, but only are we the children of God as He is our Father as no one is to be called Father for one is your Father, which is in heaven, Matthew 23:9. You are not a Mother or Father, but a servant as Jesus was while here on earth, Mark 10:45.
 
for_his_glory said:
There is no wife of God as God has no need of a wife for God is Spirit not of flesh and blood and there is no one equal to Him, but does need faithful servants.
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Where is it written that God needs faithful servants? I don't recall where that would be.
 
Hi WIP,
It all started in Genesis 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

This is serving God as God commanded Adam to be a faithful servant just as these scriptures tell us we are faithful servants to God even from the beginning as minister and worker are the same as God calling us to be a faithful servant to Him in all we do to bring Him glory and honor.

Mark 10:45; John 12:26; Romans 13:1-7; 1 Corinthians 4:1; Colossians 3:24; 2 Timothy 2:15
 
for_his_glory said:
Hi WIP,
It all started in Genesis 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

This is serving God as God commanded Adam to be a faithful servant just as these scriptures tell us we are faithful servants to God even from the beginning as minister and worker are the same as God calling us to be a faithful servant to Him in all we do to bring Him glory and honor.

Mark 10:45; John 12:26; Romans 13:1-7; 1 Corinthians 4:1; Colossians 3:24; 2 Timothy 2:15
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Maybe what I'm questioning is the use of the word "need." Does God really need faithful servants?
 
WIP said:
Maybe what I'm questioning is the use of the word "need." Does God really need faithful servants?
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I would think He would in order for the Gospel message to be carried out in all nations so those who will have ears to hear will repent and turn back to Him. As Jesus served those while here on earth so we also need to be faithful servants as we serve others.
 
for_his_glory said:
I would think He would in order for the Gospel message to be carried out in all nations so those who will have ears to hear will repent and turn back to Him. As Jesus served those while here on earth so we also need to be faithful servants as we serve others.
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I've always understood it to be a privilege rather than a need to share the Gospel. Certainly, you're not suggesting He is incapable of changing lives and revealing Himself to the lost without us.
 
Psalm 50:10.

We clearly need God. He does not need us, but He does love us. I seem to recall reading some CS Lewis on being loved (agape) by the Creator, who loves but does not need His creatures.
 
Mike said:
I've always understood it to be a privilege rather than a need to share the Gospel. Certainly, you're not suggesting He is incapable of changing lives and revealing Himself to the lost without us.
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It is a privilege and yes God could very well reveal himself to the lost and has many times. I guess I should have added that.
 
Indeed. I have tremendous respect and love for you, for_his_glory. I was/am confident you were not saying that. Just helping you clarify. :)

To WIP's point (I believe), He doesn't "need" us to serve Him, but blesses us as we delight in sharing His love with others.

Romans 1:18-20
 
Mike said:
Indeed. I have tremendous respect and love for you, for_his_glory. I was/am confident you were not saying that. Just helping you clarify. :)

To WIP's point (I believe), He doesn't "need" us to serve Him, but blesses us as we delight in sharing His love with others.

Romans 1:18-20
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Thanks for helping as sometimes I need all the help I can get to make things more clear :hug
I totally agree as God does delight in us sharing His love.
 
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