Poll re. good tattoo artist career for a Christian woman

[Deborah13]

Deborah13:
By way of application to tattoos: there is another thread, started by Obadiah who is a biker, about the fact that some folk are kind of prejudiced against bikers. I tried to make the point that if a group of bikers in leather jackets and pants shows at the parking lot of a Crackel Barrel, it is just as likely (or even more likely?) to be an outing of deacon's wives on a church outing, as it is Hell's Angels, and by extension, any tattoos they may be wearing might just as likely (or even more likely?) be faith based as they would be to do with gangs or Hell's Angels' initiation rites or whatever.

So I guess one's cultural and aesthetic outlook about such matters need not just get stuck at around 1950 or whenever. (If it was really true even then?)

Blessings.

Memories of the Fonz, come to mind, LOL.
But yes. Not too far from me there is a yearly Christian concert with speakers too. I know a couple of Christians, dad and son who are members of the Christian bikers club. They volunteer there, leathers and all.

 

[farouk]

Memories of the Fonz, come to mind, LOL.
But yes. Not too far from me there is a yearly Christian concert with speakers too. I know a couple of Christians, dad and son who are members of the Christian bikers club. They volunteer there, leathers and all.

Deborah13:

...and don't be surprised if they have a tat or two between them as well.

Well, yes. And leathers, for those that go biking, are simply the most suitable attire. Anyone who has ridden will tell you that with the wind at speed you can't expect just to go dressed for the beach...

It's an acquired taste, of course, biking.

(As are, more broadly, tattoos as well.)

Blessings.

 

[Sparkey]

Deborah13:

Well, ty, and this is interesting because I've never heard of the 'having their tattoo on the wrong arm' thing before.

I learn something every day, it seems!

Like, it might have something to do with whether the tattooee is left- or right-handed, I suppose. (Not sure.)

Anyway, you can tell Lexy that this is a very interesting point that has been raised.

Does anyone know whether the left or right arm is supposedly preferable for a tattoo? (or a bracelet, come to that).

I guess it's a bit like wondering whether an ankle tattoo or chain is on the left or right ankle (in my humble view such a discussion about the ankle aspect wouldn't lead very far at all).

But it's an interesting point.

Blessings.

You've heard about (I don't know when exactly - the 60's? 70's?) the mistake for a male getting a single earring in the "wrong" earlobe? Some say that it sends a message. The concept is similar for tats on the left arm. How did "Sinister," the Latin word for left-handed come about?. What evolution of meaning turned left-handed into evil and threatening? (Rhetorical)

 

[farouk]

You've heard about (I don't know when exactly - the 60's? 70's?) the mistake for a male getting a single earring in the "wrong" earlobe? Some say that it sends a message. The concept is similar for tats on the left arm. How did "Sinister," the Latin word for left-handed come about?. What evolution of meaning turned left-handed into evil and threatening? (Rhetorical)

Sparrowhawke:

Well, I see.

I suppose, logically, that the perceived syndrome cancels itself out if the man or woman gets both arms or wrists tattooed, right?

Ty for your comment.

Blessings.

 

[Deborah13]

You've heard about (I don't know when exactly - the 60's? 70's?) the mistake for a male getting a single earring in the "wrong" earlobe? Some say that it sends a message. The concept is similar for tats on the left arm. How did "Sinister," the Latin word for left-handed come about?. What evolution of meaning turned left-handed into evil and threatening? (Rhetorical)

Duh....never would have thought of that but sure.

 

[farouk]

Duh....never would have thought of that but sure.

Deborah13:

At any rate, if he or she didn't want this aspect to be present, the person could always for example complement a Bible ref. on the wrist of one arm with, say, a Celtic tribal band on the other arm, or whatever, I suppose.

But I'm not sure how much the left / right thing is significant in the thinking of men and women who consider a bit of ink.

Anyway, you can tell Lexy that the perspective she suggested made for an interesting discussion.

Blessings.

 

[farouk]

The area in which I live, >16000 people, has five tattoo shops. Of the five, three are owned by women, of those three, two are owned and operated by Christians. So the thought of Christian women with tattoos is just how it is. My wife is no longer intimidated by the whole dark alley tat shop scene. When the artist is a Christian woman, it makes it more accessible for other Christian women. ..

PS: re. migraine's originally quoted comment, people can have all sorts of views and preferences. In terms of the underlying realities that the sort of statistics that migraine refers to, it is hard to argue with, I guess.

I guess a pragmatic response would be: given its profusion, try to use it for good, with designs that will be effective in testimony.

 

[farouk]

You've heard about (I don't know when exactly - the 60's? 70's?) the mistake for a male getting a single earring in the "wrong" earlobe? Some say that it sends a message. The concept is similar for tats on the left arm. How did "Sinister," the Latin word for left-handed come about?. What evolution of meaning turned left-handed into evil and threatening? (Rhetorical)

Duh....never would have thought of that but sure.

Deborah:

On reflection, seems to me that today, just as men and women get tattooed equally, so also they tattoo left and right arms equally. (E.g., from the Christian rock band Skillet, Korey has her right arm tattooed and Jen Ledger has her left arm tattooed).

Maybe Lexy and her professor have other insights, anyway? it was an interesting contribution anyway.

Blessings.

 

[Sparkey]

Okay, you've got me started thinking about a tattoo. The problem that I have, that I imagine all might have, would be the stumbling points that I might set in doing so. Before you reassure me, let me explain. I like irony, and I enjoy teaching opportunities as much as the next guy.

What about a left arm tattoo that uses a very formal (Old English Bold text) to quote Leviticus 19:28? And another on the right arm quoting 1 Cor 10:23... Then a larger tattoo of God reaching across the chest with a Michelangelo type finger from right to left?

The whole image would communicate well enough, but I still worry about the "weak brother" who accidentally sees only my left profile as I exit my vehicle with the fish logo "tattooed" onto it. That one would not be clued into the whole message and might be left with a good head scratching only....


He would never see the tattoo on the back of my skull.

 

[farouk]

Okay, you've got me started thinking about a tattoo. The problem that I have, that I imagine all might have, would be the stumbling points that I might set in doing so. Before you reassure me, let me explain. I like irony, and I enjoy teaching opportunities as much as the next guy.

What about a left arm tattoo that uses a very formal (Old English Bold text) to quote Leviticus 19:28? And another on the right arm quoting 1 Cor 10:23... Then a larger tattoo of God reaching across the chest with a Michelangelo type finger from right to left?

The whole image would communicate well enough, but I still worry about the "weak brother" who accidentally sees only my left profile as I exit my vehicle with the fish logo "tattooed" onto it. That one would not be clued into the whole message and might be left with a good head scratching only....


He would never see the tattoo on the back of my skull.

Sparrowhawke:

You're a great humorist.

In imbibing your highly developed humor, I guess I'm still trying to sort out any serious points that may lie beneath.

I don't see myself as saying: Hey, go get a tattoo!

What I guess I'm saying is, since they are sooo widespread, including with tasteful designs and including among Christians, maybe a Bible ref. that can cause conversations could prove to be useful.

Blessings.

 

[Kaileymarie]

I guess it could work but it would be kinda like being a Christian pole dancer. Unless the top is coming off she isn't gonna make any money.

A Christian tattoo artist would be in the same predicament, what she is offering isn't what the typical tattoo shop customer is wanting to buy

I disagree. I have tattoos and none of them are offensive. I see where maybe she could only be so successful, but a good artist will attract plenty of people who want flowers and koi fish.

 

[Sparkey]

Thank you for the quick response. I should have looked to see if you were online, but I did count on you to pick up on not only what I said but also what I meant.

You're right and I was just thinking how I might have added, "But this is my conscience speaking, and it is not speaking to anyone other than to me." That is a very important consideration. One that you've consistently upheld in all of your conversations here and one that I admire you for. Okay, enough of that, right? No. I mean it. I very much enjoy our conversations, enjoy the fact that we are encouraged here to voice our opinions, our reasoning and our hearts. But more so? What I love is that you meet this with your own heart, one fashioned by our Father and placed here for the purpose of building each and every one that He loves.

Blessings to you, from Him, in accordance to His great treasures of Mercy, my friend.

 

[farouk]

I guess it could work but it would be kinda like being a Christian pole dancer. Unless the top is coming off she isn't gonna make any money.

A Christian tattoo artist would be in the same predicament, what she is offering isn't what the typical tattoo shop customer is wanting to buy

I disagree. I have tattoos and none of them are offensive. I see where maybe she could only be so successful, but a good artist will attract plenty of people who want flowers and koi fish.

Kaileymarie: Hi. As a tattooed woman, do you think that it can be useful in witness if some Christrians have, say, a Bible verse ref. 'John 14.27', etc, or whatever, interwoven within nice, tasteful flower or koi fish designs?

Blessings.

 

[Kaileymarie]

I guess it could work but it would be kinda like being a Christian pole dancer. Unless the top is coming off she isn't gonna make any money.

A Christian tattoo artist would be in the same predicament, what she is offering isn't what the typical tattoo shop customer is wanting to buy

I disagree. I have tattoos and none of them are offensive. I see where maybe she could only be so successful, but a good artist will attract plenty of people who want flowers and koi fish.

Kaileymarie: Hi. As a tattooed woman, do you think that it can be useful in witness if some Christrians have, say, a Bible verse ref. 'John 14.27', etc, or whatever, interwoven within nice, tasteful flower or koi fish designs?

Blessings.

Eh... Not really. I mean, just because someone has a bible verse on their arm doesn't mean people will think "oh wow, if they got that tattooed on them it must be true!"

If that's the case it's a good thing I covered up my skull and crossbones. People would be converting to satanism every time they looked at the back of my neck! Haha ;)

Mine are from before I was a Christian, but I do consider getting a small reminder on my wrist or hand. Just for me, though. I'm a fairly new Christian and would like the constant reminder that he's with me.

 

[farouk]

Eh... Not really. I mean, just because someone has a bible verse on their arm doesn't mean people will think "oh wow, if they got that tattooed on them it must be true!"

If that's the case it's a good thing I covered up my skull and crossbones. People would be converting to satanism every time they looked at the back of my neck! Haha ;)

Mine are from before I was a Christian, but I do consider getting a small reminder on my wrist or hand. Just for me, though. I'm a fairly new Christian and would like the constant reminder that he's with me.

Interesting comments, [MENTION=93407]Kaileymarie[/MENTION]!

So you're maybe not done getting inked yet. I guess your feeling is that with the ink you have, you'd also like to have some that is God honoring?

The wrist placement is very popular, actually. (There's a video someplace of Korey, and Jen Ledger of the Christian band Skillet both getting their wrists done; one of the designs is definitely a faith based one.)

Blessings.

 

[Kaileymarie]

Eh... Not really. I mean, just because someone has a bible verse on their arm doesn't mean people will think "oh wow, if they got that tattooed on them it must be true!"

If that's the case it's a good thing I covered up my skull and crossbones. People would be converting to satanism every time they looked at the back of my neck! Haha ;)

Mine are from before I was a Christian, but I do consider getting a small reminder on my wrist or hand. Just for me, though. I'm a fairly new Christian and would like the constant reminder that he's with me.

Interesting comments, [MENTION=93407]Kaileymarie[/MENTION]!

So you're maybe not done getting inked yet. I guess your feeling is that with the ink you have, you'd also like to have some that is God honoring?

The wrist placement is very popular, actually. (There's a video someplace of Korey, and Jen Ledger of the Christian band Skillet both getting their wrists done; one of the designs is definitely a faith based one.)

Blessings.

In a sense I suppose it would honor him but that wouldn't be my reasoning exactly. It would help remind me to honor him in my every day words and actions.

OT: Farouk, I haven't been on here in a while but I remember.. You are always so kind and I never feel like you are trying to prove that you know more than me, or that I'm dumb for being ignorant about the topics of a lot of the discussions here. I can see many new christians coming here to learn, as i have, and being completely intimidated and leaving when they could have learned so much. Bless you

 

[Deborah13]

You've heard about (I don't know when exactly - the 60's? 70's?) the mistake for a male getting a single earring in the "wrong" earlobe? Some say that it sends a message. The concept is similar for tats on the left arm. How did "Sinister," the Latin word for left-handed come about?. What evolution of meaning turned left-handed into evil and threatening? (Rhetorical)

Duh....never would have thought of that but sure.

Deborah:

On reflection, seems to me that today, just as men and women get tattooed equally, so also they tattoo left and right arms equally. (E.g., from the Christian rock band Skillet, Korey has her right arm tattooed and Jen Ledger has her left arm tattooed).

Maybe Lexy and her professor have other insights, anyway? it was an interesting contribution anyway.

Blessings.

No insight, he was just saying that some people will find things to be critical about and some of these things have nothing to do with the other person's Christian faith or walk.

 

[farouk]

Eh... Not really. I mean, just because someone has a bible verse on their arm doesn't mean people will think "oh wow, if they got that tattooed on them it must be true!"

If that's the case it's a good thing I covered up my skull and crossbones. People would be converting to satanism every time they looked at the back of my neck! Haha ;)

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[MENTION=93407]Kaileymarie[/MENTION] :

Umm, re. your other comments, don't embarrass me .

Re. what you were saying about the skull design, you must know of course what your thoughts and preferences are and were. I did read someplace that the skull motif can actually be used for all sorts of things. I won't reproduce the whole article but someone called Bhakti Satalkar said "The soft and feminine women who want a skull tattoo, opt for skull tattoos which are combined with flowers. The flowers can range from rose to hibiscus to lilies, etc. .. Women also opt for skull tattoos, which are combined with smiley's. It is an indicator, that the woman is not afraid of facing the world, but yet is gentle. .. If you are a biker woman, you can place your skull tattoo on sleeves as the look great as armband tattoos for women. .. At the same time, you can opt to combine the tattoos with other feminine tattoo designs, to get the feminine look and also create a unique tattoo design." ( buzzle dot com / articles / skull-tattoos-for-women / html dot com ) Personally I'm not particularly in favor of the skull design but it can mean all sorts of things to many people and can be very gentle, too. I guess for some folk it could even be combined with 'O death, where is thy sting?' 1 Corinthians 15.55 . Maybe not everyone's choice; whatever.

Anyway say Hi to that great husband of yours. And have fun either deciding not to get more ink, or have fun getting the faith based one you said you were considering; whatever works for you. Blessings.

 

[Kaileymarie]

Eh... Not really. I mean, just because someone has a bible verse on their arm doesn't mean people will think "oh wow, if they got that tattooed on them it must be true!"

If that's the case it's a good thing I covered up my skull and crossbones. People would be converting to satanism every time they looked at the back of my neck! Haha ;)

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[MENTION=93407]Kaileymarie[/MENTION] :

Umm, re. your other comments, don't embarrass me .

Re. what you were saying about the skull design, you must know of course what your thoughts and preferences are and were. I did read someplace that the skull motif can actually be used for all sorts of things. I won't reproduce the whole article but someone called Bhakti Satalkar said "The soft and feminine women who want a skull tattoo, opt for skull tattoos which are combined with flowers. The flowers can range from rose to hibiscus to lilies, etc. .. Women also opt for skull tattoos, which are combined with smiley's. It is an indicator, that the woman is not afraid of facing the world, but yet is gentle. .. If you are a biker woman, you can place your skull tattoo on sleeves as the look great as armband tattoos for women. .. At the same time, you can opt to combine the tattoos with other feminine tattoo designs, to get the feminine look and also create a unique tattoo design." ( buzzle dot com / articles / skull-tattoos-for-women / html dot com ) Personally I'm not particularly in favor of the skull design but it can mean all sorts of things to many people and can be very gentle, too. I guess for some folk it could even be combined with 'O death, where is thy sting?' 1 Corinthians 15.55 . Maybe not everyone's choice; whatever.

Anyway say Hi to that great husband of yours. And have fun either deciding not to get more ink, or have fun getting the faith based one you said you were considering; whatever works for you. Blessings.

Honestly I was never really a fan of skull and crossbones, I got it because of an abusive boyfriend when I was 18. Really dumb, I know. It does remind me of death and I can't see myself being able to have another skull just because it has some flowers around it or a smiley face. They just creep me out now!

My little brother is a mechanic by day and tattoo artist on the side. He is not a Christian, and he does draw a lot of scantily clad girls and maybe a skull every once in a while. I'm sure if he became a Christian he would throw all of the racy pictures away, but I can never see him completely stopping tattooing. Tattoos can be beautiful and it really takes an artist who is passionate. If a woman has a passion for tattooing she will find a way to tattoo whether she is financially successful at it or not.

I just can't see a tattoo artist, Christian or not, caring what anyone thinks about their profession!

 

[farouk]

Eh... Not really. I mean, just because someone has a bible verse on their arm doesn't mean people will think "oh wow, if they got that tattooed on them it must be true!"

If that's the case it's a good thing I covered up my skull and crossbones. People would be converting to satanism every time they looked at the back of my neck! Haha ;)

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@Kaileymarie :

Umm, re. your other comments, don't embarrass me .

Re. what you were saying about the skull design, you must know of course what your thoughts and preferences are and were. I did read someplace that the skull motif can actually be used for all sorts of things. I won't reproduce the whole article but someone called Bhakti Satalkar said "The soft and feminine women who want a skull tattoo, opt for skull tattoos which are combined with flowers. The flowers can range from rose to hibiscus to lilies, etc. .. Women also opt for skull tattoos, which are combined with smiley's. It is an indicator, that the woman is not afraid of facing the world, but yet is gentle. .. If you are a biker woman, you can place your skull tattoo on sleeves as the look great as armband tattoos for women. .. At the same time, you can opt to combine the tattoos with other feminine tattoo designs, to get the feminine look and also create a unique tattoo design." ( buzzle dot com / articles / skull-tattoos-for-women / html dot com ) Personally I'm not particularly in favor of the skull design but it can mean all sorts of things to many people and can be very gentle, too. I guess for some folk it could even be combined with 'O death, where is thy sting?' 1 Corinthians 15.55 . Maybe not everyone's choice; whatever.

Anyway say Hi to that great husband of yours. And have fun either deciding not to get more ink, or have fun getting the faith based one you said you were considering; whatever works for you. Blessings.

Honestly I was never really a fan of skull and crossbones, I got it because of an abusive boyfriend when I was 18. Really dumb, I know. It does remind me of death and I can't see myself being able to have another skull just because it has some flowers around it or a smiley face. They just creep me out now!

My little brother is a mechanic by day and tattoo artist on the side. He is not a Christian, and he does draw a lot of scantily clad girls and maybe a skull every once in a while. I'm sure if he became a Christian he would throw all of the racy pictures away, but I can never see him completely stopping tattooing. Tattoos can be beautiful and it really takes an artist who is passionate. If a woman has a passion for tattooing she will find a way to tattoo whether she is financially successful at it or not.

I just can't see a tattoo artist, Christian or not, caring what anyone thinks about their profession!

Interesting and helpful comments, and it sounds like it's a profession you yourself respect and appreciate, Kaileymarie.

Yes, it really is an art, isn't it?

Anyway it does kind of interest me particularly in relation to faith related design potentials, anyhow.

Blessings.

PS: Keep praying for your brother, [MENTION=93407]Kaileymarie[/MENTION] !