Poll re. good tattoo artist career for a Christian woman

[evenifigoalone]

Where does the practice of getting tattoo's come from. Godly, Christ and Holy Spirit believing cultures? We are told also not to practice the things, ungodly practices, of pagan cultures also. I would urge young Christian people here to do their homework as to the origin of tattoo's too see for themselves just what type of ungodly cultures they originated from and then to ask themselves if the Bible, God, Christ and the Holy Spirit would really be in approval of such things whether past or present?

They were at one time. This is why it was forbidden from the Israelites. By such practices, they would be identifying with the pagan people of the day and could be mistaken as a member of a pagan religion--in other words, the appearance of evil, which the NT tells us to avoid.

But I don't think that something that was once pagan, and is not seen that way anymore, is wrong. There's no longer any chance, if you live in a modern day country, of being seen as a pagan for having a tattoo.

 

[farouk]

Where does the practice of getting tattoo's come from. Godly, Christ and Holy Spirit believing cultures? We are told also not to practice the things, ungodly practices, of pagan cultures also. I would urge young Christian people here to do their homework as to the origin of tattoo's too see for themselves just what type of ungodly cultures they originated from and then to ask themselves if the Bible, God, Christ and the Holy Spirit would really be in approval of such things whether past or present?

They were at one time. This is why it was forbidden from the Israelites. By such practices, they would be identifying with the pagan people of the day and could be mistaken as a member of a pagan religion--in other words, the appearance of evil, which the NT tells us to avoid.

But I don't think that something that was once pagan, and is not seen that way anymore, is wrong. There's no longer any chance, if you live in a modern day country, of being seen as a pagan for having a tattoo.

[MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION]:

Interesting contrib., yes.

I mean, let's face it, how many of us would go up to a Fundamentalist preacher, and say 'You shave, you're being like a pagan' (the Leviticus passage mentions not trimming the corners of beards, right next to where it says about not cutting for the dead, etc.)? I'm wondering whether the immediate context was Old Testament Jews in the land under the law.

For example, [MENTION=96478]Abbiedobis[/MENTION], above, has told us she has wanted for a long time to go do it, in order for it to be a God honoring witness as a proven conversation starter; (I hardly think she is an Old Testament Jewess in the land under the law; not singling her out, just referring to what was written here very recently).

Hope this makes some sort of sense?

Blessings.

 

[farouk]

I would also like to say that I got all of my tattoos before I was a Christian, and at first in church i wore my hair down to hide the butterfly on the back of my neck because I thought people would judge me and I would not be accepted. How sad is that? If I felt that way I'm sure there are many others who have and will feel the same.

Praise the Lord for freeing me from that weight I was carrying. Trust me at first I thought it was wrong of me to have gotten them, but over time He has shown me that they are so insignificant in the grand scheme of things and that as a lover of art I am tattooed and it is just fine. In the same prayer I realized the significance of having the skull and crossbones covered up with a butterfly.

I am a new creation in Christ and what matters is my relationship with him and loving others.

[MENTION=93407]Kaileymarie[/MENTION] :

So sounds like you feel confident as a Christian and tattooed lady, and like now you don't really have any regrets at all.

Blessings.

 

[George Muller]

Where does the practice of getting tattoo's come from. Godly, Christ and Holy Spirit believing cultures? We are told also not to practice the things, ungodly practices, of pagan cultures also. I would urge young Christian people here to do their homework as to the origin of tattoo's too see for themselves just what type of ungodly cultures they originated from and then to ask themselves if the Bible, God, Christ and the Holy Spirit would really be in approval of such things whether past or present?

They were at one time. This is why it was forbidden from the Israelites. By such practices, they would be identifying with the pagan people of the day and could be mistaken as a member of a pagan religion--in other words, the appearance of evil, which the NT tells us to avoid.

But I don't think that something that was once pagan, and is not seen that way anymore, is wrong. There's no longer any chance, if you live in a modern day country, of being seen as a pagan for having a tattoo.

I dont think I see this issue as "wrong" in the sense that our body is a temple and that getting a tattoo is sin against the Holy Spirit. But there are in fact "spiritual" reasons why one should take caution in such things. Anytime one "marks" themself and sheds blood in the process, I think it is only wise to pray and be sure of ones motives.

 

[Kaileymarie]

Where does the practice of getting tattoo's come from. Godly, Christ and Holy Spirit believing cultures? We are told also not to practice the things, ungodly practices, of pagan cultures also. I would urge young Christian people here to do their homework as to the origin of tattoo's too see for themselves just what type of ungodly cultures they originated from and then to ask themselves if the Bible, God, Christ and the Holy Spirit would really be in approval of such things whether past or present?

They were at one time. This is why it was forbidden from the Israelites. By such practices, they would be identifying with the pagan people of the day and could be mistaken as a member of a pagan religion--in other words, the appearance of evil, which the NT tells us to avoid.

But I don't think that something that was once pagan, and is not seen that way anymore, is wrong. There's no longer any chance, if you live in a modern day country, of being seen as a pagan for having a tattoo.

I dont think I see this issue as "wrong" in the sense that our body is a temple and that getting a tattoo is sin against the Holy Spirit. But there are in fact "spiritual" reasons why one should take caution in such things. Anytime one "marks" themself and sheds blood in the process, I think it is only wise to pray and be sure of ones motives.

Good thoughts. Motive is definitely important here.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Where does the practice of getting tattoo's come from. Godly, Christ and Holy Spirit believing cultures? We are told also not to practice the things, ungodly practices, of pagan cultures also. I would urge young Christian people here to do their homework as to the origin of tattoo's too see for themselves just what type of ungodly cultures they originated from and then to ask themselves if the Bible, God, Christ and the Holy Spirit would really be in approval of such things whether past or present?

They were at one time. This is why it was forbidden from the Israelites. By such practices, they would be identifying with the pagan people of the day and could be mistaken as a member of a pagan religion--in other words, the appearance of evil, which the NT tells us to avoid.

But I don't think that something that was once pagan, and is not seen that way anymore, is wrong. There's no longer any chance, if you live in a modern day country, of being seen as a pagan for having a tattoo.

I dont think I see this issue as "wrong" in the sense that our body is a temple and that getting a tattoo is sin against the Holy Spirit. But there are in fact "spiritual" reasons why one should take caution in such things. Anytime one "marks" themself and sheds blood in the process, I think it is only wise to pray and be sure of ones motives.

This is true, yes. Always good to examine one's heart and motives.

 

[farouk]

This is true, yes. Always good to examine one's heart and motives.

[MENTION=89910]questdriven[/MENTION]:

True. I suppose it follows that preparing and planning to go under the needle can in theory be both for rather bad motives, or else in contrast for thoroughly good, God honoring ones.

Blessings.

 

[Free Christian]

Witchcraft has now changed to include good witches in our modern times. Using that reasoning witchcraft is now ok as its not considered bad any more. The root of a tree no matter how old it is, is the root of the tree. Does that reasoning then change a 500 year old hardwood tree into a pine tree?
A pagan practice into a non pagan practice just because of time and modern acceptance does not change a thing. It began with worldly acceptance and spilled over into Christian circles only in our modern times. Does anyone here think that those great Christians from our past would be advocating getting tattoo's?
Satan loves to have us believe that what was wrong is now right, our modern times are full of it. Witchcraft for centuries was considered evil, its now not. Fortune tellers abound and even advertise on TV. The roots remain the same.
I have plenty of them which I got as a non Christian. I don't look at myself and go "SINNER". I know im forgiven but I also know that what I once did was wrong.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Witchcraft is still a pagan practice, actually. Unless I missed the memo.

 

[Free Christian]

Could someone tell me in the Bible where Moses was for tattoo's?

 

[evenifigoalone]

P.S. Some claim that Western medicine and the stuff sold at the pharmacy is witchcraft, comes from the same word, etc. I personally don't subscribe to that. Some do, but for those who don't--just a point: does that mean we need to stop using modern medicine?

 

[evenifigoalone]

Could someone tell me in the Bible where Moses was for tattoo's?

We've been over this.

 

[Free Christian]

So we get to choose what pagan practice we can accept or change. Tatt's, once pagan, now not pagan. Witchcraft, once pagan still pagan!

 

[evenifigoalone]

So we get to choose what pagan practice we can accept or change. Tatt's, once pagan, now not pagan. Witchcraft, once pagan still pagan!

It's still in use by pagans, or so I'm told.

Pagans still exist today, I know this for a fact. I have a couple of pagan online friends.

P.S. Made another post that was meant to be an add-on to this one. Please take a look.

 

[farouk]

Could someone tell me in the Bible where Moses was for tattoo's?

@Free Christian :

I could say, could someone tell me how I am under the Old Testament law, especially those ceremonial aspects as they related to Jews in the land? (You see, in the end it's a hermeneutic issue. People of a thoroughgoingly Reformed persuasion don't tend to distinguish much between Old and New Testaments; nor between the church and Israel. My two cents' are with Uncle CI and the sort of dispensational theology that the Scofield Bible is associated with.)

Blessings.

PS: I deeply respect your personal journey and I also think that if a Christian is prevented by conscience from getting a tattoo for witness purposes, then this should be greatly respected also. What I don't see is how witchcraft intervenes with a person exercising Romans 14 Christian liberty when he - and definitely she also - opts for getting a witness design, and I don't see, either, how one person's conscience about the matter overrules someone else's.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Because editing my post takes so long that people reply before it's edited:
P.S. There's more to it than it's being made out to be. I would not condone witchcraft in any way. But God's rules are there for a good reason, not just because. I believe the answer can be found by examining the reason behind the OT commands--which, for tattoos, appears to have been to avoid the appearance of evil.
As for witchcraft, I know next to nothing about it, but I seriously, seriously doubt that's all there was to God disapproving of witchcraft. What I know of the context of the scriptures against it DO NOT suggest that it was simply to avoid the appearance of evil.

 

[evenifigoalone]

PS: I deeply respect your personal journey and I also think that if a Christian is prevented by conscience from getting a tattoo for witness purposes, then this should be greatly respected also. What I don't see is how witchcraft intervenes with a person exercising Romans 14 Christian liberty when he - and definitely she also - opts for getting a witness design, and I don't see, either, how one person's conscience about the matter overrules someone else's.

Agreed.

My purpose in participating in this thread is not to say, "Hey, stop saying tattoos are wrong!"
I actually think that it's just to get both of differing views talking, because both sides tend to have good points and food for thought. Which, if you want to encourage people to examine their motives, is a great thing.

ETA: [MENTION=41474]farouk[/MENTION], I think you meant to use the word "tattoos" instead of "witchcraft"?

 

[farouk]

PS: I deeply respect your personal journey and I also think that if a Christian is prevented by conscience from getting a tattoo for witness purposes, then this should be greatly respected also. What I don't see is how witchcraft intervenes with a person exercising Romans 14 Christian liberty when he - and definitely she also - opts for getting a witness design, and I don't see, either, how one person's conscience about the matter overrules someone else's.

Agreed.

My purpose in participating in this thread is not to say, "Hey, stop saying tattoos are wrong!"
I actually think that it's just to get both of differing views talking, because both sides tend to have good points and food for thought. Which, if you want to encourage people to examine their motives, is a great thing.

@questdriven :

I guess it goes back to the point also that preparing and planning to go under the needle can be both for rather bad motives, and also in contrast for motives that are thoroughly good, God honoring ones.

Blessings.

 

[farouk]

ETA: @farouk , I think you meant to use the word "tattoos" instead of "witchcraft"?

@questdriven :

Whatever it was, I think I meant, more or less, what does trying to evangelize in this way have to do with witchcraft? The hypothesis that it supposedly does, remains in some doubt, at least, to me.

(Sorry if my wording wasn't clear!)

Blessings.

 

[evenifigoalone]

ETA: @farouk , I think you meant to use the word "tattoos" instead of "witchcraft"?

@questdriven :

Whatever it was, I think I meant, more or less, what does trying to evangelize in this way have to do with witchcraft? The hypothesis that it supposedly does, remains in some doubt, at least, to me.

(Sorry if my wording wasn't clear!)

Blessings.

Well, to me it appears that God's disapproval of witchcraft is for different purposes than His disapproval in the OT about tattoos. Granted, I don't have the scripture right in front of me, but I'm pretty familiar with what the Bible says about witchcraft. Seems to be in a different context than tattoos. What do you think?

Hm...is anything mentioned in the NT about witchcraft? I forget. I imagine it must be.