Poll re. good tattoo artist career for a Christian woman

[Maedchen]

.. if you say that the tattoos create good witness-opportunities, well then I will rethink my view.

PS: [MENTION=96634]Rose[/MENTION]:

Re. your comment, above, to [MENTION=96530]forgiven[/MENTION], the matter of motive is significant, isn't it?
Like, the person may be convicted about doing it to honor the Lord. Blessings.

Dear farouk,

Yes, 'the matter of motive is significant'. I agree absolutely, as God can look into our heart and knows if we are willing to submit to Him and do everything out of love for our dear Lord.

Let's do everything in life as to tell our Creator how much we love Him and how much we need Him!

Love, Rose

 

[forgiven]

So for a Christian design, it's not just about 'liking' or 'not liking' the needle going in over and over, it's about understanding and respecting the motive, right?

Yes I can say that from my own experience I do not like necessarily like the needle but it is the motive behind it, for me at least. But alas I do not think I will ever effectively convey that to my mom. Either the lady like side of it or the needle side of it. On the 'lady like' side of things we also have disagreements over tee shirts and tennis shoes being lady like as well so I am quite used to the agree to disagree on what is lady like and what is not with her. But the needle...... well I just try to stay away from topics that make her turn green:D!

 

[farouk]

Dear farouk,

Yes, 'the matter of motive is significant'. I agree absolutely, as God can look into our heart and knows if we are willing to submit to Him and do everything out of love for our dear Lord.

Let's do everything in life as to tell our Creator how much we love Him and how much we need Him!

Love, Rose

@Rose :

Exactly.

So I guess that now you can see, as @forgiven particularly has been explaining to you in general terms, how for many Christians there is space in their lives (metaphorically speaking) and space in perfectly decent placements (such as wrist, arm or foot) for designs that communicate faith and will doubtless open up many opportunities.

Blessings.

 

[jeff77]

I don't have any tattoos, but I have considered one before. I don't have anything against them. My wife even has 2 of them. I like what some have said about them being an opportunity to witness. I actually googled "Christian tattoos" a few minutes ago. There are a lot of interesting and questionable ones. But if I ever decide to get one it might be like this one.
Oops...I tried to post a pic of a tattoo that says "Forgiven" on a cross but it didn't work.
If you google "Christian tattoos" it is on the images page, along with many others.

 

[farouk]

I don't have any tattoos, but I have considered one before. I don't have anything against them. My wife even has 2 of them. I like what some have said about them being an opportunity to witness. I actually googled "Christian tattoos" a few minutes ago. There are a lot of interesting and questionable ones. But if I ever decide to get one it might be like this one.
Oops...I tried to post a pic of a tattoo that says "Forgiven" on a cross but it didn't work.
If you google "Christian tattoos" it is on the images page, along with many others.

jeff77:

It's a very widespread step to take, anyway, getting faith based ink.

So the tattoos that you mentioned that your wife has, would they happen to be specifically faith based / witness tattoos, maybe?

It's not unusual for both spouses to become inked; and it's also not unsual if the wife has gotten ink before her husband, either.

Blessings.

 

[Atonement]

Ummmm - I have two.. But dang I disagree with it, so my opinion would be hypercritical and therefore I'm unworthy to comment much more ..

 

[farouk]

Ummmm - I have two.. But dang I disagree with it, so my opinion would be hypercritical and therefore I'm unworthy to comment much more ..

@Atonement :

Okay, ty. I can see that you have changed your mind about the ones that you already have.

As a broader subject, it's so often it's not a yes/no; agree/disagree thing, though.

What do you think from a pragmatic point of view of the fact - expressed by different posters here - that ones that are faith based / Bible references are a proven, very effective way of getting into conversations with people of a witness nature?

Also, the attitude of parents can be quite nuanced, or multi-faceted. (And I'm not talking now specifically about your daughter; don't even know how old she is.) Some Christian parents might not exactly encourage an 18 year old to go for the tattoo rite of passage at 18. (And it can sometimes be hard for a parent to internalize also that a boy has become a man, and that a girl has become a woman.) Yet if the young person, already a believer, and no longer needing parental permision, said s/he wanted to express testimony in a faith based design: some Christian parents, if not initially enthusiastic about the general idea, might be delighted and very supportive of a young person's determination to be up front about wanting to communicate his or her testimony in such a permanent way.

Blessings.

 

[Atonement]

Let me answer you by telling you a true story. There is a show on television called The American Bible Challenge on GSN. It's host is Jeff Foxworthy. Basically three teams compete on the show. The winning team receives $20,000 to donate to charity, and advances in a season-long tournament; the season's champion wins $100,000 to donate to charity. So the teams do this for charity and not profiting anything. My cousin owns his own line of clothing called Redemption www.redemptionline.com. But he also runs a tattoo shop called Anointed Ink and this is where he uses his talents to cover-up secular ink with something of faith, Biblical, or the like. He uses Anointed Ink as a witness to others and his team who all work for Anointed Ink were showcased on the television show and used their business to witness on the show The American Bible Challenge. So you probably can tell where my thinking is on this subject?

My cousin Chris is on the right with the Mohawk haha.. Maybe you seen him play? They did pretty good in season 2

Notice the shirts they are wearing? They are from his line Redemption!

 

[farouk]

Let me answer you by telling you a true story. There is a show on television called The American Bible Challenge on GSN. It's host is Jeff Foxworthy. Basically three teams compete on the show. The winning team receives $20,000 to donate to charity, and advances in a season-long tournament; the season's champion wins $100,000 to donate to charity. So the teams do this for charity and not profiting anything. My cousin owns his own line of clothing called Redemption www.redemptionline.com. But he also runs a tattoo shop called Anointed Ink and this is where he uses his talents to cover-up secular ink with something of faith, Biblical, or the like. He uses Anointed Ink as a witness to others and his team who all work for Anointed Ink were showcased on the television show and used their business to witness on the show The American Bible Challenge. So you probably can tell where my thinking is on this subject?

My cousin Chris is on the right with the Mohawk haha.. Maybe you seen him play? They did pretty good in season 2

Notice the shirts they are wearing? They are from his line Redemption!

Atonement:

Hey, this is very interesting!

So was it your cousin at Anointed Ink that did yours, too?

I guess among the things you're saying is that faith based ink can be of value, witness-wise, if not your 'first choice'.

Blessings.

 

[Atonement]

No I had mine done else where before I knew my cousin actually did tatts. I knew of his Redemption line but had no idea of his Anointed Ink shop until early last year.

I guess among the things you're saying is that faith based ink can be of value, witness-wise, if not your 'first choice'.

It depends on the individual. My cousin does, but this does not mean everyone who walks in his shop does. Many just feel guilty because of a tattoo they got years ago or whatever, and don't want to spend the money to remove it so they come in and have it covered up by something different (in some sort of Biblical fashion). Tattoos have a way of opening the doors of discussion, but if used for witnessing tool, obviously it must go beyond the tattoo, they are just a door opener, and are used by some Christians who do not know how to approach people with the Gospel message. But once the door is open this is when one really needs to begin their witness of Christ and what He did for them on the Cross etc. So again, it depends on the individual. But I will say that if one is getting tattoos just to witness to people, that is a cover-up because they like tattoos and can't fool me with that nonsense ha!

 

[farouk]

No I had mine done else where before I knew my cousin actually did tatts. I knew of his Redemption line but had no idea of his Anointed Ink shop until early last year.

I guess among the things you're saying is that faith based ink can be of value, witness-wise, if not your 'first choice'.

It depends on the individual. My cousin does, but this does not mean everyone who walks in his shop does. Many just feel guilty because of a tattoo they got years ago or whatever, and don't want to spend the money to remove it so they come in and have it covered up by something different (in some sort of Biblical fashion). Tattoos have a way of opening the doors of discussion, but if used for witnessing tool, obviously it must go beyond the tattoo, they are just a door opener, and are used by some Christians who do not know how to approach people with the Gospel message. But once the door is open this is when one really needs to begin their witness of Christ and what He did for them on the Cross etc. So again, it depends on the individual. But I will say that if one is getting tattoos just to witness to people, that is a cover-up because they like tattoos and can't fool me with that nonsense ha!

Atonement:

Sounds like you're not planning to go visit your cousin's tat business any time soon, anyway...

Your opinion is fine, of course.

Not sure if people with a faith based tat (which like you say can be useful as an intro. to witness) are likely to think: Oh I have a faith based tat, I don't like the look of it but I like the idea of using it in witness.

They are likely to say, rather: I like the idea of using it in witness, and, guess what, I like the look of it, too!

(After all, the wearer has chosen the design.)

Also there is this aspect: the faith based tattoo isn't necessarily the first tattoo that a believer will get. Rather, a tattooed person who is converted might well say: I have ink, and also now I would just loooooove to use ink in a faith based design in my witnessing, also.

(If you follow my meaning; so I guess I don't 100% go along with the 'nonsense' thing! )

And the way parents handle and internalize the issue can be complex, too.

Your comments have been appreciated anyway.

Blessings.

 

[Atonement]

Yeah, I just say wear a Cross lol it's an intro also.. No need for the ink, but as stated it all about the individual. Actually I may go to his shop soon, I need to add to something I got a few years back. He quoted me a price I know I can't beat

 

[farouk]

Yeah, I just say wear a Cross lol it's an intro also.. No need for the ink, but as stated it all about the individual. Actually I may go to his shop soon, I need to add to something I got a few years back. He quoted me a price I know I can't beat

Atonement:

Interesting; does the planned design addition have a faith element? (I know some folk for example will get a tribal or Celtic style armband or ankle chain, but also with a suitable Scripture verse interlaced as well, maybe added later.)

You're obviously an old pro at receiving tattoos and won't need your daughter to go with you to hold your hand (not that you ever needed it, either)! She might be interested to watch of course (unless you'd prefer to keep it a secret from her).

Sounds like your cousin is a talented guy, anyway.

Blessings.

 

[Atonement]

Actually I got a Peacock with it's tail feathers covering and shaping a formation of a heart that I have over my heart. It's my last name, so I couldn't go wrong with it. I created the design myself many years ago. I love my tatts, they both mean something.. I have my daughters name also on my left arm .. What I need to add is foreground to make the Peacock pop out and been tossing around ideas with my cuz and we may do it this summer.

 

[farouk]

Actually I got a Peacock with it's tail feathers covering and shaping a formation of a heart that I have over my heart. It's my last name, so I couldn't go wrong with it. I created the design myself many years ago. I love my tatts, they both mean something.. I have my daughters name also on my left arm .. What I need to add is foreground to make the Peacock pop out and been tossing around ideas with my cuz and we may do it this summer.

[MENTION=90960]Atonement[/MENTION]:

Wow, sounds like it's beautiful, and real colorful, and sounds like your daughter is kind of thematically involved, at least. So I guess she'll be kind of thrilled to see the tattoos enhanced, whether or not she actually accompanies you there.

Parlors tend to get booked up sometimes, I reckon your cousin is no exception. (But you might be his exception, of course.)

Blessings.

 

[farouk]

Hi [MENTION=96530]forgiven[/MENTION]: I'll just mention here rather than on the weather thread. I expect you know about Tattoo Armor Precision sunscreen? (I'm not selling it; and there are other brands that are just as good, I reckon). Kind of a supplement to the various lotions that there are, if the lotion doesn't have already something in it that protects the ink in the skin.

Blessings to you and yours.

 

[forgiven]

Hi @forgiven : I'll just mention here rather than on the weather thread. I expect you know about Tattoo Armor Precision sunscreen? (I'm not selling it; and there are other brands that are just as good, I reckon). Kind of a supplement to the various lotions that there are, if the lotion doesn't have already something in it that protects the ink in the skin.

Blessings to you and yours.

Thank you for telling me, I normally use sunscreen while in the sun, then vitamin E oil after I come in. I have found it works well but I will def try out the one you mentioned! Thank you for that.
Blessings to you and your wife!

 

[farouk]

Thank you for telling me, I normally use sunscreen while in the sun, then vitamin E oil after I come in. I have found it works well but I will def try out the one you mentioned! Thank you for that.
Blessings to you and your wife!

@forgiven :

Oh, YW. There are various products out there, but in order to avoid the 'halo effect' from putting on traditional suncreams, you draw on the lines of the tattoo with a pen-like device (it also comes with a brush instead for larger tats) and it dries fast. It's talked about quite a bit on the Web, though there is a main website; if you want to look for more info about it and can't find it, just say and I can look up the Web address of the particular firm.

It may prove to be particularly relevant to Christians with faith based tattoos in the sense that if these sometimes consist of wording, they are given special protection. It does contain vitamin E and other vitamins as well, so you might decide you don't really need it, but there's also the halo effect border around the tat that is avoided, and also the sheer ease of using the applicator pen.

Blessings.

 

[farouk]

PS :

Many just feel guilty because of a tattoo they got years ago or whatever, and don't want to spend the money to remove it so they come in and have it covered up by something different (in some sort of Biblical fashion). ..

@Atonement :

Well, money does come into it; and you get the quality of the tattoo that you pay for, right?

But many Christians feel that investing in a good quality faith based design is money well spent, right?

Blessings.

 

[Atonement]

@Atonement :

Well, money does come into it; and you get the quality of the tattoo that you pay for, right?

But many Christians feel that investing in a good quality faith based design is money well spent, right?

Blessings.

Greetings to you Farouk

Yes I agree that you get what you pay for.

If Christians are investing in a tattoo design, to them they should believe it's money well spent (at least I would hope so). Unless, later they become convicted and want to remove it, if that happens, then it's money wasted.