Seriously.. whom is the tribulation actually for.

[Kathi]

Agreed.... when the trump sounds the dead rises first then we which are alive meet them in the air! Can't wait for the Blessed Hope!!! amen!

1 Thess.4:16-17
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. God Bless Rich

Yep Can't wait.........oh and I think Eugene is pre-trib too.

 

[JLB]

Yes,Dispensation of Grace.The Church age Matthew 16:18 that we are in now.

Church age?

I'm not familiar with this term, could you share a little about the Church age.


JLB

 

[Kathi]

Church age?

I'm not familiar with this term, could you share a little about the Church age.


JLB

The Church age is the period of time from Penecost Acts 2 to the rapture.It covers the period in which the church is on earth.It corresponds with the Dispensation of Grace.

 

[reba]

Church age is not a biblical term.. I remember finding out heavenly language was not a Biblical term.. :neutral

 

[Deborah13]

knab70 We hope you enjoy your time here in the end times battle zone.... some times we need a helmet sometimes we duck or beat our heads most definitely ,,, shout an :amen ... we all love the Lord and His Word even when we understand it differently ... this one is on me

Very creative. Lexy and I love it. :amen

 

[reba]

if we have a preterism forum do we not also have or need a futurist forum. seems fair to me. and im not a futurist but a partial preterist.

You wouldn't stay out of a futurist forum any more then the futurist stay out of the orthodox preterist forum... You know you couldn't

 

[jasonc]

You wouldn't stay out of a futurist forum any more then the futurist stay out of the orthodox preterist forum... You know you couldn't

I haven't gone on the attack mode in this thread. oh I will in another thread. im pondering the statements by a pre tribber and also must verify what he said and his sources and my sources. it has to do with what the early church taught on the chialism(millennial reign of Christ). I recall martyr saying the Lord would reign in Jerusalem in the rebuilt temple before the resurrection. the pastor says otherwise. he also said some other things that are often off.

 

[Deborah13]

You wouldn't stay out of a futurist forum any more then the futurist stay out of the orthodox preterist forum... You know you couldn't

So.....true. :yes

 

[reba]

forums where everyone agrees dont last long..

 

[Kathi]

This closely describes the Church Age Acts 9:31

 

[jasonc]

lol. I haven't attacked the newbies position on isreal. I may not. I may do it elsewhere. but the other thread is going to deal with that.

 

[jasonc]

oh well good it is when the brothers dwell in unity. hinei ma tov..

acts 9:31

 

[Kathi]

Attack??....is that used on a Christian messageboard?Should it be used on a Christian messageboard? Isn't Christian and attack an oxymoron?

 

[jasonc]

Attack??....is that used on a Christian messageboard?Should it be used on a Christian messageboard? Isn't Christian and attack an oxymoron?

debate terms. debating is related to lawyers and also negotiating. its an adversial approach.

all those logical fallacies are the same in the court room. lawyers are also good at debating.

 

[Kathi]

Sooo....to answer the OP.The tribulation is for the unbelievers.

 

[Gary]

Their are no direct scripture ref. to unbelievers left behind..

So then, it is unclear as to whether the tribulation is meant for nonbelievers only.
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[Gary]

Sooo....to answer the OP.The tribulation is for the unbelievers.

Who are the Saints of the Most High?

Daniel 7
25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
Shall persecute the saints of the Most High,
And shall intend to change times and law.
Then the saints shall be given into his hand
For a time and times and half a time.

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[knab70]

Church age is not a biblical term.. I remember finding out heavenly language was not a Biblical term.. :neutral

You mean as the bible is not in the canon which is the bible Seriously speaking..
We call them dispensations. More broadly.. biblical history can be divided into two periods, roughly following the division of Old and New Testaments.. the age of the Law and the biblical church age which now I'm back to dispensation.

 

[reba]

Raised on Scofields dispensations...

 

[Eugene]

Then, how do all stand before the throne? What's the point of a judging time of dividing if the "separating" was already done?

Dear Brother Willie T, not all the church stands before the throne; some stand round about the throne (Rev 4:4), and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, (Rev 4:6).

Others of the saints are the Great Multitude of (Rev 7:9) stood before the throne, and the 144,000 of (Rev 14:3) stood before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders.